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In reply to the discussion: JFK Conference: Bill Kelly introduced new evidence - adding Air Force One tape recordings [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)56. Lisa Pease: JFK, FDR and 'Seven Days in May'
JFK, FDR and 'Seven Days in May'
By Lisa Pease
ConsortiumNews, February 24, 2009
EXCERPT...
The film "Seven Days in May" began as a novel by Fletcher Knebel, inspired to a great degree by Knebel's conversations with Gen. Curtis LeMay, President Kennedy's contentious Air Force Chief of Staff who was furious at Kennedy for not sending in full military support during the Bay of Pigs incident.
Additionally, LeMay infamously argued during the Cuban Missile Crisis for a preemptive nuclear first-strike against the Soviet Union, a move Kennedy abhorred.
One of Kennedy's friends, Paul Fay, Jr., wrote in his book The Pleasure of His Company how one summer weekend in 1962, one of Kennedy's friends bought Knebel's book to his attention, and Kennedy read the book that night.
The next day, Kennedy discussed the plot with friends, who wanted to know if Kennedy felt such a scenario was possible. Bear in mind this was after the Bay of Pigs but before the Cuban Missile Crisis.
"It's possible," Kennedy acknowledged. "It could happen in this country, but the conditions would have to be just right. If, for example, the country had a young President, and he had a Bay of Pigs, there would be a certain uneasiness.
Maybe the military would do a little criticizing behind his back, but this would be written off as the usual military dissatisfaction with civilian control. Then if there were another Bay of Pigs, the reaction of the country would be, 'Is he too young and inexperienced?'
The military would almost feel that it was their patriotic obligation to stand ready to preserve the integrity of the nation, and only God knows just what segment of democracy they would be defending if they overthrew the elected establishment."
After a moment, Kennedy continued. "Then, if there were a third Bay of Pigs, it could happen."
CONTINUED...
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/022409a.html
By Lisa Pease
ConsortiumNews, February 24, 2009
EXCERPT...
The film "Seven Days in May" began as a novel by Fletcher Knebel, inspired to a great degree by Knebel's conversations with Gen. Curtis LeMay, President Kennedy's contentious Air Force Chief of Staff who was furious at Kennedy for not sending in full military support during the Bay of Pigs incident.
Additionally, LeMay infamously argued during the Cuban Missile Crisis for a preemptive nuclear first-strike against the Soviet Union, a move Kennedy abhorred.
One of Kennedy's friends, Paul Fay, Jr., wrote in his book The Pleasure of His Company how one summer weekend in 1962, one of Kennedy's friends bought Knebel's book to his attention, and Kennedy read the book that night.
The next day, Kennedy discussed the plot with friends, who wanted to know if Kennedy felt such a scenario was possible. Bear in mind this was after the Bay of Pigs but before the Cuban Missile Crisis.
"It's possible," Kennedy acknowledged. "It could happen in this country, but the conditions would have to be just right. If, for example, the country had a young President, and he had a Bay of Pigs, there would be a certain uneasiness.
Maybe the military would do a little criticizing behind his back, but this would be written off as the usual military dissatisfaction with civilian control. Then if there were another Bay of Pigs, the reaction of the country would be, 'Is he too young and inexperienced?'
The military would almost feel that it was their patriotic obligation to stand ready to preserve the integrity of the nation, and only God knows just what segment of democracy they would be defending if they overthrew the elected establishment."
After a moment, Kennedy continued. "Then, if there were a third Bay of Pigs, it could happen."
CONTINUED...
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/022409a.html
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JFK Conference: Bill Kelly introduced new evidence - adding Air Force One tape recordings [View all]
Octafish
Nov 2013
OP
How could Bundy have possibly known there was no conspiracy when Oswald was arrested?
Sanity Claws
Nov 2013
#1
James Galbraith wrote his dad, John Kenneth Galbraith, made the arrangements...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#103
Generals mocking JFK behind his back during Cuban Missile Crisis caught on another tape...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#8
If JFK had to put up with this sh*t, what do imagine President Obama has to face? nt
kelliekat44
Nov 2013
#59
That's all Mr. Kelly said on that. Others at the conference expressed the opinion LBJ...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#6
You are a very respected DUer Octafish, one of the most respected, in fact one of the reasons
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#88
The "new tape" was released in Jan '12. And the article shows it's not a lie
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#43
The salient information from the new tape is LeMay lied about his whereabouts (REPOST).
Octafish
Nov 2013
#45
It's relevant because it was edited out of the tapes in the National Archives.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#49
The conversation between LBJ, Ladybird, and Rose Kennedy was also edited out, Octafish.
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#50
No. LeMay disobeyed an order to fly to Andrews AFB. All the rest of that is what you say.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#55
The log puts 'NOT' in all caps, meaning Le May is not going where he was ordered.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#60
But what you are saying is insubordination is not insubordination, Octafish.
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#63
Something to remember to ask when going over all this: Why was LeMay in Canada?
Octafish
Nov 2013
#64
No. I'm just wondering why he had to be picked up hundreds of miles away in Canada.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#67
Which is why Dulles and Lemnitzer counseled all-out nuclear sneak attack on USSR
Octafish
Nov 2013
#72
And so how did the all-out nuclear attack on USSR go after Kennedy was out of the way? n/t
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#73
THE TAKE-AWAY: JFK stood up to the Cold War hawks who counseled war -- EVERY TIME.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#74
You mean they killed Kennedy to get a nuclear war and then they didn't get one?
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#76
Yes, to introduce some much needed levity to this discussion. Nevertheless
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#101
A recurring theme throughout Kennedy's term in office seems to be the Pentagon's 'desire' for a.....
LongTomH
Nov 2013
#32
So how did that late 1963 preemptive nuclear strike work out for the Pentagon?
Bolo Boffin
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#39
Interesting collection of books, including Michio Kaku and Daniel Axelrod's...
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#38
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#81
CNN Failed to Credit Bill Kelly's role in their report on the Air Force One tapes.
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#104