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BlueStreak

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170. Some were. It certainly was discussed openly

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 03:51 PM

Nov 2013

And I don't recall a single case where smokers feigned outrage at this point being brought up.

Most smokers know that this is a really unhealthy habit, and that they are addicts.

And I think that most morbidly, unnaturally obese people understand this is a very unhealthy lifestyle. It isn't like the guy is a little chubby or "big boned". He was one cheeseburger away from the big one. It does appear he has taken positive action to try to put himself into a healthier place, and I wish him all the best at that effort. But given that he spent decades destroying his body, I do his fitness for the most important position in the world remains a very fair question.

It is not fair to make jokes. I hope you can recognize the difference between hurtful jokes and legitimate questions about fitness for duty.

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Can we please stop the fat-jokes about Chris Christie? [View all] DetlefK Nov 2013 OP

agreed. there are certain groups of people that it's fine to mock here cali Nov 2013 #1

I hate it when you're right warrprayer Nov 2013 #182

Is the political notion of 'fat cats' a joke? n/t malaise Nov 2013 #2

Paul Ryan is fantastic example of a political "fat cat", and it has bullwinkle428 Nov 2013 #52

No--- he's a fat pig. trumad Nov 2013 #3

He's a pig alright, but it's not because he's fat cali Nov 2013 #5

Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #6

I would hope you will reconsider trumad. boston bean Nov 2013 #11

My problem with the OP is the exploitation of other groups in foul and inacccuate ways Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #21

I agree, that is why I only responded to Trumad and made my plea there. boston bean Nov 2013 #22

Ok. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #43

I think its obvious I do believe there is sexism and homophobia and racism on DU. boston bean Nov 2013 #47

It is not right to snarl about 'homosexuals' getting perfered treatment as a way to protect an Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #58

I didn't say it was right! I agreed with you. boston bean Nov 2013 #60

HERE FUCKING HERE!!! eqfan592 Nov 2013 #76

I agree with you here. There are a lot of other things that need cleaning up on DU before this. stevenleser Nov 2013 #121

The request has nothing to do with protecting Christie Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #137

Agreed. But I do think Christie uses his bulk to menace people... CTyankee Nov 2013 #23

That is also true, but the post I responded to was based on his weight. boston bean Nov 2013 #27

I try very hard to have sympathy for Christie. He can't feel very good lots of the time and CTyankee Nov 2013 #32

He's a bully. I can't stand him. boston bean Nov 2013 #37

I use to weigh 240lbs and I had a Lapband Surgery in 2005 Heather MC Nov 2013 #53

I agree with you and Trumad. I've been battling my bulge most of my life. mountain grammy Nov 2013 #66

Yup! Agschmid Nov 2013 #68

i had to come in and check seabeyond Nov 2013 #18

OK. He eats to much and it shows.. Auntie Bush Nov 2013 #40

I don't care for Christie either, wendylaroux Nov 2013 #55

Yep, and always will be no matter what his actual size. mountain grammy Nov 2013 #67

The sacrifices that you make for DU pintobean Nov 2013 #74

... leftstreet Nov 2013 #173

Terribly hurtful words Papagoose Nov 2013 #89

"Fat pig" offends me. Pigs are very smart, friendly animals, Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #140

I'm not seeing that. Nine Nov 2013 #4

It's not just Christie's obesity, and that thread seems to be the exception to the rule. DetlefK Nov 2013 #13

point taken (nt) Nine Nov 2013 #25

Boehner cries because he's half drunk all the time. n/t bitchkitty Nov 2013 #104

You're right, we shouldn't be doing that. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #7

I'm waiting for some guy to get so angry with Christie that he drops him with a CTyankee Nov 2013 #30

That would make my day if someone did that. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #124

The guy would have a real problem if somebody came after him...he looks like he can't move very fast CTyankee Nov 2013 #152

Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #8

you are genetically slim, right? i think i have read that before. seabeyond Nov 2013 #26

You think his obesity says something about him? NCTraveler Nov 2013 #29

No kidding. laundry_queen Nov 2013 #34

Their post says Tien1985 Nov 2013 #44

Yup. It's disgusting. Agschmid Nov 2013 #70

What does it say? Iggo Nov 2013 #45

You guys come here together? notadmblnd Nov 2013 #9

You think I'm a republican sock-puppet? DetlefK Nov 2013 #15

I think you came here to throw some shit in hopes that it would stick. notadmblnd Nov 2013 #19

My OP was badly worded. DetlefK Nov 2013 #28

You did OK, some people think fat is purely voluntary and a matter of choice implying or .... marble falls Nov 2013 #49

We wouldn't be picking on him if he had any other disease..... MissMillie Nov 2013 #62

This is a good post. Thank you for the info. Ed Suspicious Nov 2013 #125

That's kinda the point. No one was picking on Christie notadmblnd Nov 2013 #162

Can we please stop criticizing DU for the rude comments of 1 or 2 people? FSogol Nov 2013 #10

I'm no fan of him, but I agree about the fat part. Lots of people are overweight for RKP5637 Nov 2013 #12

I agree, but Christie is going to have to deal with them; that's not a prejudice bigtree Nov 2013 #14

If he was an overweight woman he would fall under the DU protection clause The Straight Story Nov 2013 #16

Good point. Also: ever hear of Teddy Kennedy described as 'fat'? He wasn't much smaller than CC. marble falls Nov 2013 #51

Excellent post, you nailed it. MicaelS Nov 2013 #168

I can't stop you, only you can do that jberryhill Nov 2013 #17

No. LWolf Nov 2013 #20

He's a mean, rude and dishonet homophobic Republican and so are his defenders. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #24

that works. i bet there are a lot more adjectives. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #39

I'm counting the OP as a defense of Christie because of the sexist and homophobic tropes in the OP. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #50

well, you know me. i certainly noted how he/she said we like.... say no to sexism and homophobia. seabeyond Nov 2013 #54

Yeah, you went right passed it alright. I very much noticed. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #64

you know. people are ALL over my ass day and night cause i call this shit out repeatedly. seabeyond Nov 2013 #73

The cognitive dissonance is mind-numbing, isn't it? Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #126

Yup. Hang in! Agschmid Nov 2013 #139

lol. and with so many on du, seabeyond Nov 2013 #165

The biggest (sorry) problem with making fun of Christies weight is... Walk away Nov 2013 #31

that is what i thought i saw. and was wondering if that is what he did. thanks for info. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #42

The bigotry against large people Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #33

Never gonna happen. Iggo Nov 2013 #35

OK, here's my deal--I'll give up fat jokes about Christie........ lastlib Nov 2013 #36

Limbaugh is only fair game... GoCubsGo Nov 2013 #163

The thing is OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #38

straw man thread scheming daemons Nov 2013 #41

the thing about that is, even if few and i do not know cause i do not go in the threads much.... seabeyond Nov 2013 #46

His health and self-control are fair issues BlueStreak Nov 2013 #108

Obama was still a smoker when he ran in 2008. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #127

ABSOLUTELY. And it was addressed. And I didn't hear anybody complaining about that. BlueStreak Nov 2013 #129

So, people were actively arguing that because he smoked should therefore not be Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #133

Some were. It certainly was discussed openly BlueStreak Nov 2013 #170

Really? Agschmid Nov 2013 #141

Let's be realistic...he's a public figure with an characteristic HipChick Nov 2013 #48

Not only his skin color, Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #63

yep..exactly... HipChick Nov 2013 #69

It's unfortunate pipi_k Nov 2013 #91

and see where the being PC gets us HipChick Nov 2013 #169

I'm amazed that we have people who do that Stuckinthebush Nov 2013 #56

Nowhere in the OP was weight mentioned ecstatic Nov 2013 #57

Impossible! That pipe doesn't go to the marshmallow room Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #59

Regardless of how we feel it will definitely be a liability if he runs for president DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2013 #61

Ummm. . .no. Screw Governor Ballast! Nanjing to Seoul Nov 2013 #65

Classy. Agschmid Nov 2013 #72

when it comes to that ass and his bullying of teachers, i refuse to be classy. Nanjing to Seoul Nov 2013 #81

. Agschmid Nov 2013 #84

What's all this love for Chris Christie? Because he hugged Obama? Nanjing to Seoul Nov 2013 #88

Please continue... Agschmid Nov 2013 #90

Whatever. . .I'll take this conversation on the patio since you're already on the cross. Nanjing to Seoul Nov 2013 #92

Thanks for buying my ticket to ignoreland.... Agschmid Nov 2013 #93

It's always better to see pintobean Nov 2013 #94

Right. Agschmid Nov 2013 #95

Well, can't you be tasteless and at least also FUNNY? sibelian Nov 2013 #166

We often (though unwittingly) become the very aspect of what we hate in those we hate LanternWaste Nov 2013 #178

Here we go again... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #71

I agree. We should not judge others by the way they appear physically ~ by physical color, weight, Zorra Nov 2013 #75

Nope Doctor_J Nov 2013 #77

As I walk down the street or work in my office building firmly, politically planted on your side, I Ed Suspicious Nov 2013 #132

You are so right mgardener Nov 2013 #78

fuck no d_b Nov 2013 #79

If someone insulted one of my large friends because of their weight, I'd verbally kick their ass Zorra Nov 2013 #80

you're equating krisp krispy for one of your friends? Nanjing to Seoul Nov 2013 #82

Sorry, you have completely missed the point. Please take a few seconds and try to figure it out. Zorra Nov 2013 #101

I thought the absence of empathy was a republican trait. I thought wrong. Ed Suspicious Nov 2013 #128

I agree, it is childish. The mans public appearance photos will speak for it's self. Sunlei Nov 2013 #83

I been looking at some old hot rod sorefeet Nov 2013 #85

Obesity Lamonte Nov 2013 #86

One thing: in 1976 Chevy Chase single handedl brought Gerald Ford down gopiscrap Nov 2013 #87

Ah I remember that. But I had it out for Ford for pardoning Nixon. No love there. Carter was great. freshwest Nov 2013 #185

I think Reagan was the worst president we've ever had gopiscrap Nov 2013 #186

It makes people feel "superior" because they just KNOW "fat" is a result of sloth, of duffyduff Nov 2013 #96

^^this^^ Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #109

Yup! Agschmid Nov 2013 #142

"It is equal or worse to be fat than a humanity-loathing republican." is the takeaway from the Ed Suspicious Nov 2013 #97

The first thing we can do is quit using the term "fat" or "obese" to describe body size duffyduff Nov 2013 #103

+1 Agschmid Nov 2013 #112

So alert those posts that offend, don't try to protect and promote MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #98

Felt good to put... Agschmid Nov 2013 #111

Why yes it did MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #113

No need. Agschmid Nov 2013 #115

And I would rather call you on your support of crispie. eom MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #117

The whole support Christie meme is a big LOL. Agschmid Nov 2013 #119

I don't think calling him large is hateful, it is a fact. MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #120

Much as calling subsistence farmers in Rwanda "skels" is a fact LanternWaste Nov 2013 #181

You had to dig up into your MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #183

That petulant and visceral satisfaction we desire often becomes a greater priority than the actual c LanternWaste Nov 2013 #179

Some people are bullies. bitchkitty Nov 2013 #99

He's a Republican ...... oldhippie Nov 2013 #100

Disgusting. Agschmid Nov 2013 #114

and if he were a Dem he would be tormented 24/7 by 1200 radio stations Doctor_J Nov 2013 #135

when you stop making excuses for the despicable lack of support for the dem candidate in NJ bowens43 Nov 2013 #102

I would rather have President Chris Christie.... kentuck Nov 2013 #105

Yes - there's enough to mock and criticize about him without bringing weight into it. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2013 #106

+1 Agschmid Nov 2013 #116

Exactly right. n/t GoCubsGo Nov 2013 #164

I really don't give a crap about Christie and I really don't give a crap about his weight. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #107

When he jabs his finger at someone and yells disparaging remarks at them... kentuck Nov 2013 #110

WHY? Mira Nov 2013 #118

Here we go. It demonstrates a moral shortcoming... a lack of self control if one is fat. A Ed Suspicious Nov 2013 #123

Bravo!!! Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #130

+1. Good post. nt laundry_queen Nov 2013 #136

Good point. HappyMe Nov 2013 #145

+1 leftstreet Nov 2013 #158

Your sarcasm is not appropriate. Nor are your comparisons Mira Nov 2013 #160

Not a moral shortcoming .... oldhippie Nov 2013 #172

Here's the thing laundry_queen Nov 2013 #134

Hug from a stranger for you. I'm right there with you with two daughters with Ed Suspicious Nov 2013 #146

My younger one is also 13 laundry_queen Nov 2013 #147

worthy of its own thread, laundry_queen Skittles Nov 2013 #177

Not sure I have the strength for that laundry_queen Nov 2013 #184

No. He uses his considerable body language to intimidate and bully. Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #122

This post makes the most sense imho of the whole thread. kydo Nov 2013 #138

There are about 100 other things to HappyMe Nov 2013 #131

+1 Agschmid Nov 2013 #144

Never gonna happen... pipi_k Nov 2013 #143

I agree. We can make a point about how awful Christe is bigwillq Nov 2013 #148

Christie's weight is a legitimate concern Stainless Nov 2013 #149

There are 3 distinct body types one is born with...like eye color and height...modern science libdem4life Nov 2013 #159

Right. I was just reading the wikipedia article about Ariel Sharon, former Israeli PM alp227 Nov 2013 #189

You inspired me to really think about this... pink-o Nov 2013 #150

No, people are free to express their opinions about Christie quinnox Nov 2013 #151

unless christie loses weight itsrobert Nov 2013 #153

He has had lap band surgery and has lost 40 lbs. HappyMe Nov 2013 #154

yes. an issue. itsrobert Nov 2013 #155

Then shouldn't age be an issue? HappyMe Nov 2013 #156

Come on...in the words of Leslie Chow Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #157

Nope. Fat bullies should be called out. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #161

I agree. If nothing else, I see very little that's actually insulting about it. sibelian Nov 2013 #167

He's an ugly man, and it goes far beyond his morbid obesity. Beacool Nov 2013 #171

"Let's not let a bunch of cheap jokes about Chris Christie's weight distract us... alterfurz Nov 2013 #174

OMG - your name makes me laugh Mira Nov 2013 #175

glad the name brought a chuckle alterfurz Nov 2013 #191

I agree Skittles Nov 2013 #176

I had my ass 'handed to me' back in my early days at DU for suggesting Candy Crowley resembled Purveyor Nov 2013 #180

Am I allowed to call him a bullying prick? Prophet 451 Nov 2013 #187

What kind of jokes pass your censorship rules? Corruption Inc Nov 2013 #188

Ones worthy of DU rather than of that other site. Orsino Nov 2013 #192

How right you are . . . fadedrose Nov 2013 #190