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114. What the heck does it mean for a lawsuit to become "official."

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 04:46 PM

Nov 2013

I've been a practicing attorney for 35 years and I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. I suppose it means that the case has been docketed, which means that it meets the requirements (which have absolutely zero to do with the substantive merits of the claim) for filing --signature, filing fee or pro se declaration, etc.

As for the "New Case Order" -- that is a pro forma procedural order issued in essentially that format by certain district courts (including the court with which the OP filed his/her complaint. It signifies nothing about the merits of the case.

I'm not excusing anything that romney and/or bain may have done, but based on my experience, and reading this complaint, I'would not be surprised in the slightest if the complaint is tossed out on the merits in short order.

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PRESS RELEASE: Racketeering Romney Lawsuit Becomes Official November 6th [View all] laserhaas Nov 2013 OP

Good luck! We're rooting for you! randome Nov 2013 #1

+1 Scuba Nov 2013 #3

Thanks 'Scuba' laserhaas Nov 2013 #6

May justice be served by the rule of law prevailing indepat Nov 2013 #141

AMEN to THAT! laserhaas Nov 2013 #145

Thanks. Please root (and pray) that I live long enough to go to trial laserhaas Nov 2013 #4

Best of luck laserhaas dotymed Nov 2013 #93

100% chance that motions to dismiss will be made. 100% chance they will be granted, with AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #136

It would be unlawful to order a dismissal without leave to amend laserhaas Nov 2013 #138

Actually, "bad guys" are persons who unnecessarily clog the court system and deprive people with AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #143

Eaaaannnntttt! Wrong again typo pen! Bad guys/gals are ones who join the mob of bullies laserhaas Nov 2013 #147

This will not end well. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #22

That's the problem with you naysays. Can't get facts straight in your hell bent laserhaas Nov 2013 #23

Romney wasn't my guy and your claims have been thoroughly Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #35

Romney was your guy. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #76

The term is 'naysayers' Richardo Nov 2013 #46

:) - I stand spell corrected... laserhaas Nov 2013 #58

"word corrected", it wasn't a spelling issue just the wrong word completely snooper2 Nov 2013 #70

When you pick a fact and offer something valid to the contrary, I'll discuss it with you laserhaas Nov 2013 #38

A compilation of posts from myself and others Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #49

Very illuminating Richardo Nov 2013 #52

Damn that's almost a B movie by itself! snooper2 Nov 2013 #73

+1000 jberryhill Nov 2013 #53

Maybe the judge will help him with some Rule 11 experience. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #137

I welcome a Rule 11 Sanctions hearing; because the FACTS become the issue laserhaas Nov 2013 #140

And so -- we learn that Racketeering is yet another Republicon "Family Value" Berlum Nov 2013 #2

Bible thumping actually means laserhaas Nov 2013 #5

Best of luck to you! myrna minx Nov 2013 #7

Thanks 'myrna minx' laserhaas Nov 2013 #9

too cool good luck dembotoz Nov 2013 #8

Yep - I've been the hockey puck for a decade plus now laserhaas Nov 2013 #10

I learned RICO charges are possible against corrupt politicians.... usaf-vet Nov 2013 #11

RICO lawsuits can serve U.S. well (if you take time to study and LEARN) laserhaas Nov 2013 #14

There's a world of difference between cases filed by govt prosecutors and pro se litigants. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #139

Watch how you know very little about the Law. RICO was provided for cases just like this one laserhaas Nov 2013 #144

Excellent stick it to that fucker!!! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #12

I;m trying, I am Trying..... laserhaas Nov 2013 #15

I must say I don't think I have ever rooted as hard rurallib Nov 2013 #13

Really appreciate that 'rurallib' laserhaas Nov 2013 #16

Good luck Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #17

Awh [c]hit = they are dragons too - Damn! laserhaas Nov 2013 #18

I am worried about that "inflexible" part. Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #21

You have pointed out a flaw and I'll adapt (somewhat) laserhaas Nov 2013 #34

K & R TheJames Nov 2013 #19

Thanks (and scum is too good a word for him) laserhaas Nov 2013 #20

good luck !!!! unionthug777 Nov 2013 #24

LOL - Greatly smiley. Thanks laserhaas Nov 2013 #25

Good Luck 2naSalit Nov 2013 #26

Your welcome laserhaas Nov 2013 #30

here's to the end of corruption Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #27

Not the end; but at least a huge dent laserhaas Nov 2013 #31

gigantic rec and kick! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #28

Love Star Wars - and the force of truth has Always been with me laserhaas Nov 2013 #32

Here's the LINK to the new (amended) complaint. laserhaas Nov 2013 #29

Is this for bankruptcy fraud? AgingAmerican Nov 2013 #33

If you read my Amended Complaint - it shows that part of the Racketeering scheme laserhaas Nov 2013 #36

Is it possible that Rachel or Big Eddie, or even Tweedy could see this? Left Coast2020 Nov 2013 #37

NBC Universal is partners with Romney's Bain Capital entity laserhaas Nov 2013 #40

No, they are all part of the gigantic conspiracy against this pro se litigant jberryhill Nov 2013 #57

ABC is on the dial right next to NBC! They must be involved too! FSogol Nov 2013 #60

It's a two-fer! Romney AND Goldman Sachs! Demeter Nov 2013 #39

A 4-fer laserhaas Nov 2013 #41

Why are you picking on this poor, beleaguered mutli-millionaire? Orrex Nov 2013 #42

Appreciate the patience "Orrex" laserhaas Nov 2013 #61

Excellent! Dopers_Greed Nov 2013 #43

I'm the Bane of Bain laserhaas Nov 2013 #62

you had me at Romney lawsuit grantcart Nov 2013 #44

Cool -- They had me (frkd) at his team saying hello laserhaas Nov 2013 #64

I hope the filing is more coherent than the press release. Richardo Nov 2013 #45

No, it's not jberryhill Nov 2013 #51

Yes, I could not help thinking 'Orly Taitz' throughout the 8-10 pages I could wade through. Richardo Nov 2013 #54

Pretty much the same syndrome, yes jberryhill Nov 2013 #56

+1 N/T FSogol Nov 2013 #59

Exactly. 90 recs? Really DU? Wishful thinking. FSogol Nov 2013 #55

You may be right about the potential of the lawsuit but I think that your comparisons to grantcart Nov 2013 #71

I've read all your KB Toys articles and do agree Romney is a despicable person FSogol Nov 2013 #74

Thanks for the link grantcart Nov 2013 #87

"The charge here is that Haas is exaggerating his role and doesn't have a claim." ... Right, lol? ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #90

lol grantcart Nov 2013 #95

Yea, yea, I'm familiar with the story. And Im not shocked. It just struck me is all... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #97

Holy... jberryhill Nov 2013 #102

lol grantcart Nov 2013 #106

You don't seem to have the faintest idea what the OP's claim is about jberryhill Nov 2013 #78

A 'crime' was commited by Bain with KB Toys grantcart Nov 2013 #91

Nevermind the OT thing, I just want to know why you rec'ed this big nothingburger, as it's ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #92

It's not merely a matter of exaggerating his role jberryhill Nov 2013 #98

Can I get an... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #99

I'm surprised at you, grantcart. Are you ok? n/t ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #82

The information provided to Rolling Stone was good enough for Taibbi's cover story laserhaas Nov 2013 #109

It's like when someone posts some bad satire from a non-Onion gag site ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #120

Merle Haggard is probably rolling over in his grave jberryhill Nov 2013 #130

Good thing; greiner3 Nov 2013 #47

Fingers crossed! n/t proReality Nov 2013 #48

When one is an amoeba fighting a horde of Goliath's laserhaas Nov 2013 #67

How splendid! JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #50

Thanks Julie. laserhaas Nov 2013 #65

Knock him out!! Segami Nov 2013 #63

Great PIC 'Segami' laserhaas Nov 2013 #68

This bullshit has gotten nearly 100 recs? Seriesly???? And LOOK, the dupes ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #66

You mean "again" jberryhill Nov 2013 #69

I just cannot believe the names on that DU Rec list of people who are usually ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #72

Con men usually call those "marks" FSogol Nov 2013 #75

And it's still getting recs!!! LOL! Even after this bullshit has been soundly debunked and ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #77

If I was the Finance Minister of Nigeria, I would send them all an email, stat! FSogol Nov 2013 #79

Bwahahahahahahahaaa... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #80

Have you read up on all the latest risky-free modalities? jberryhill Nov 2013 #81

OMG! ROFLMAO!!! You guys are killing me! Thanks for the belly laffs today, I needed it!! LOL! n/t ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #83

Hilarious. Everyone here is wondering why I'm crying. FSogol Nov 2013 #84

If I wasn't working from home, everyone would be wondering the same about me! ROFL! ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #85

Well I have to say I can't think of anytime one of my rec's ever generated so grantcart Nov 2013 #100

I love it! Frequent listener, first time caller here, love your stuff, grantcart. Hee-Heeeeee! n/t ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #101

Thanks but can I get an "AMEN" ? grantcart Nov 2013 #103

Sure... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #104

I gave you half a "Holy shit", will that do? jberryhill Nov 2013 #105

depends which half. Big difference between the 'holy' and the 'shit'. grantcart Nov 2013 #107

Be still my heart! Whisp Nov 2013 #86

Really Whisp? Did you read the thread? .... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #89

thinking of Romney in trouble brings me joy. Whisp Nov 2013 #94

Well, I guess if you put it that way, it's easy to leap before you look, lol. Hope you're ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #96

Luv 'Lord of the Rings' and you've given me an idea for a new title laserhaas Nov 2013 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #88

I understand your wanting to find humor in this but Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author laserhaas Nov 2013 #117

Good for you malaise Nov 2013 #111

Thanks 'malaise' - I've won many battles in this case laserhaas Nov 2013 #112

hope it goes well! blackspade Nov 2013 #113

Thank you 'blackspade' and a Hat Tip back to ya laserhaas Nov 2013 #115

What the heck does it mean for a lawsuit to become "official." onenote Nov 2013 #114

Yeah, good luck with that wish counselor. If you don't comprehend the word "official" laserhaas Nov 2013 #116

In other words, you don't have a clue what you're talking about onenote Nov 2013 #119

Evidently, you find attorneys at law lying under oath and betraying their clients as Okay! laserhaas Nov 2013 #121

All I've done is offer my opinion based on years of experience. onenote Nov 2013 #123

It is my intention to keep all informed laserhaas Nov 2013 #124

So, based on your experience... jberryhill Nov 2013 #127

Not so good, obviously onenote Nov 2013 #128

First of all counselor, a RICO Complaint, by its very nature, is an allegation of a Conspiracy. laserhaas Nov 2013 #129

Too funny. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #146

"First the court ordered the complainant to amend his complaint..." Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #162

You are babbling B.S. with no foundation. The court Did NOT order an Amended Complaint! laserhaas Nov 2013 #170

I was quoting OneNote's reference to his own client. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #174

Wikipedia could help you improve upon your ignorance. As it states that RICO is to stop conspiracies laserhaas Nov 2013 #171

No one questions the existence of the law. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #175

Yeah - good luck with that wish Tish! - LOOK UP you ------ and see the FACTs already in Evidence laserhaas Nov 2013 #180

Again, what facts? Provide a testable assertion. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #182

Look UP ^^^ duck! - And then forever more be silent - or apologize. (again) laserhaas Nov 2013 #189

I'm reading your motions. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #202

Once again you are Bogus and full of bull. WOW - you point out the fact that I'm NOT an attorney laserhaas Nov 2013 #204

Again, argument by assertion. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #205

And into the rabbit hole you go... jberryhill Nov 2013 #206

"it looks like he burned his one amendment-by-right opportunity unprompted." Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #208

Too late, you are already part of the conspiracy... jberryhill Nov 2013 #122

Official = his "filing check cleared" FSogol Nov 2013 #118

Best news I've heard today! JustinBulletin Nov 2013 #125

Thank you 'JustinBulletin' laserhaas Nov 2013 #126

Wishing You laserhaas a nexus of good forces!! Thanks for Your courage & fortitude!!! hue Nov 2013 #131

Thanks MUCH laserhaas Nov 2013 #133

So you want Romney to pay you for moving stuff out of KB toys when Bain gutted them? DevonRex Nov 2013 #132

I knew you'd do it! TxDemChem Nov 2013 #134

Thanks MUCH 'TxDemChem' laserhaas Nov 2013 #135

Tons of luck Sir, tons of luck and good vibes.... Hotler Nov 2013 #142

Ha Ha - if Romney and his RICO gang of organized/corrupt crooks can't stop me laserhaas Nov 2013 #149

It would be cool if Romney loses, and has to sell a few of his mansions. JEFF9K Nov 2013 #148

He's losing more and MORE each and every day he fails to give us back eToys laserhaas Nov 2013 #150

"He's losing more and MORE each and every day he fails to give us back eToys" Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #161

Show how much you babble like a schmo about facts you don't know. laserhaas Nov 2013 #164

"We put up a guarantee and compelled those prices to tens of millions" Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #169

Fortunately, I don't have to hop through your hoops of BS laserhaas Nov 2013 #172

I ask for evidence. You claim you aren't required to present evidence then demand I Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #176

Look UP ^^^ duck! - And then forever more be silent - or apologize. laserhaas Nov 2013 #181

I have read you filings, at length Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #196

If you truly have read the filings at length - then you "dare" / "double dog dare" to find validity laserhaas Nov 2013 #197

ADMINS -- how long will this go on? This is who he is claiming Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #203

Whoa... I missed that part of the general tangled mess jberryhill Nov 2013 #211

Your being petty, snide and down right ebol is helping the dark side and they applaud you for it laserhaas Nov 2013 #165

What are you on about? Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #166

Best of luck, sir! No matter what your shortcomings, I'm proud that you're at least trying! ancianita Nov 2013 #151

Thank YOU 'ancianita' - very, Very, much! laserhaas Nov 2013 #155

You and a motion for Summary Judgment will soon meet. former9thward Nov 2013 #152

12(b)(6), more likely jberryhill Nov 2013 #153

Wishing you the best! connie111 Nov 2013 #154

Thank'ee U U U ... laserhaas Nov 2013 #156

welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #179

Wow - decent persons among U.S. (Please be careful - being on the lawful side bodes bad here)! laserhaas Nov 2013 #183

why do you say that? gopiscrap Nov 2013 #184

You just stepped into a thread - with a lot of meanness going on - and said to another Welcome laserhaas Nov 2013 #187

I didn't think it was a big deal gopiscrap Nov 2013 #190

There are way too few good people in this world, willing to be "openly" kind. THANK YOU laserhaas Nov 2013 #192

thanks gopiscrap Nov 2013 #193

Hey, then it should really get you excited - that Summons's are issued laserhaas Nov 2013 #198

Link to the Summons issued (NOTE - I had to cross out stuff to make the Complaint and laserhaas Nov 2013 #200

Excellent! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #214

We'll see what will be... laserhaas Nov 2013 #215

So, Mr. Mitt isn't TBTF??? blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #157

Not YET; but his house of Racketeer cards is visibly untenable. laserhaas Nov 2013 #158

Clocked Copy of 1st Amended Complaint laserhaas Nov 2013 #159

Wow I have a lot to learn polynomial Nov 2013 #160

Please feel free to PM your issue and I'll be happy to assist you in avoiding my hard knocks laserhaas Nov 2013 #167

Congratulations! Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #163

Ha Ha - you crack me up. "so jealous". Ummm, let's see; R U jealous of being homeless? laserhaas Nov 2013 #168

Hey, try to remember, I'm on your side. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #173

I know 'Baitball Blogger' - I was making a point to those who would read it and might ???? laserhaas Nov 2013 #185

Well you caused the DU Rex Nov 2013 #177

Have you read his actual filings? I defy anyone Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #178

Ummm - what flavor do you smother your crow with - when you eat it? LOOK UP at Update^^^ laserhaas Nov 2013 #188

Hey - here's a thought for you. My CLI contracts guarantee Legal Fees & they Confessed laserhaas Nov 2013 #186

I look forward to the results! Rex Nov 2013 #191

Odds are against me - as they always have been. However, if nothing else laserhaas Nov 2013 #194

Couldn't happen to a bigger group of greedy assholes. Rex Nov 2013 #195

That might be improbable -as they own (have stolen billions); but not impossible. laserhaas Nov 2013 #199

Note the silence of the adversarial's when they ask for 1 proof - and are provide MANY! laserhaas Nov 2013 #201

I get the sense that this forum is the court you're trying to convince Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #207

It's a deeper issue than that jberryhill Nov 2013 #209

Oh. Well, in that case... Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #210

It's actually difficult to tell what he is asking the court to give him jberryhill Nov 2013 #212

Have a great weekend everyone - thanks for stopping by. - And Stay Tuned. laserhaas Nov 2013 #213

What is due next - are a couple of Motions and a RICO Case Statement laserhaas Nov 2013 #216

Romneyworld Reckoning Imminent as Supporters Figure Out they Were Ripped OFF! laserhaas Nov 2013 #217