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34. Math is math.

Thu Nov 7, 2013, 04:22 PM

Nov 2013

Democrats threw money at McAuliffe because he had a very good chance at winning, and he did win.

There is literally nothing the national party could have done to defeat Christie. Nothing. Elections are local matters. Out of state endorsements and money carry very little weight.

Fighting for the sake of having a fight isn't strategy.

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"Why National Democrats Rolled Over for Chris Christie"--- The Daily Beast [View all] bvar22 Nov 2013 OP

Hear, hear! k&r n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #1

Has anyone from the Beast ever been to New Jersey? TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #2

So what? What does ANY of that have to do with Democrats slamming the Dem candidate and endorsing a sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #23

Because NJ politicians of any stripe only... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #54

I am very disappointed in President Obama and the Democratic Party here. BlueCaliDem Nov 2013 #3

National party didn't play in NJ because it had no chance of changing the outcome. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #7

Especially when the Republican gets FREE ADVERTISING from prominent DEMOCRATS. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #24

I have yet to see anyone defending Democrats who endorsed Christie. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #26

Lol! Okay! sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #35

It would have been great if the DNC chair had come out geek tragedy Nov 2013 #36

I never expected the current DNC chair to come out for a Progressive Dem. Has that EVER sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #40

By now, you should know when you're being set up. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #42

Yes, after intense criticism from Dems for their LACK of support, we get a few words, sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #43

The DNC does not have unlimited funds. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #44

Dean showed this to be bad politics. He ran in every state and WON. Of course that other sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #47

Your statement that NJ was winnable is a statement of faith, not evidence geek tragedy Nov 2013 #48

Do you think … 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #4

Support for Lincoln was NOT "to hold the Senate". bvar22 Nov 2013 #5

Okay n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #20

Their support of Lincoln cost Dems that race. It was another example of what happened in sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #37

Enough whining about the national party not being too smart to waste money on an unwinnable race. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #6

How much does an Oval Office Endorsement cost? bvar22 Nov 2013 #9

Sure, Obama could have gone all in and turned New Jersey into a national referendum. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #10

Instead, the choice was made to give an extremist Republican tha National Stage. bvar22 Nov 2013 #15

No, the decision was made to not give him a bigger stage. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #16

Yours is not a good strategy. bvar22 Nov 2013 #17

Odd analogy--going all in on a single high profile race is almost the exact opposite geek tragedy Nov 2013 #19

Another of your ridiculous Strawmen. bvar22 Nov 2013 #21

It's not the national party's function to bail out a dysfunctional state party. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #22

And, yet, they go all in to "bailout" a dysfunctional conservative like Blanche Lincoln bvar22 Nov 2013 #45

Really? Then why did he do it for Lincoln, who had no chance of winning? It did stop the other sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #38

quid pro quo for Lincoln--she votes for ACA, he endorses her in the primary. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #39

BS, Christie's 'handling of Sandy' was under serious attack and you would know that if you had been sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #27

Those are not surveys of voters. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #28

No, I'm facing the reality that the Dem Leadership did not support its own candidate nor did it use sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #30

Sorry, the only people pretending are those pretending that geek tragedy Nov 2013 #31

When your own party is joining the opposition to derail your campaign, denying you the financial sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #33

Math is math. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #34

Pathetic. 99Forever Nov 2013 #49

Thank you for that rational, analytical, and evidence-based rebuttal. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #50

We both know exactly what you are. 99Forever Nov 2013 #53

yes, I'm evil for believing in math. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #55

That would require principles and integrity. 99Forever Nov 2013 #56

Yes, yes, math is only for liars and cheats. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #58

It isn't about math. 99Forever Nov 2013 #59

You've offered no substance, just childish name calling, so it's very geek tragedy Nov 2013 #60

Plenty of room... 99Forever Nov 2013 #62

I'm likely joining good company nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #63

At that level their is no party. Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #8

This is the truest statement in this thread. nt Nay Nov 2013 #68

DURec leftstreet Nov 2013 #11

Many centrists prefer republicans over progressive Democrats. It's the "Third Way" of thinking. Zorra Nov 2013 #12

Yes, that is the truth. I think they would be happy if they could get rid of Progressives out of the sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #29

It's not WTF, it's the new (not so new) normal librechik Nov 2013 #13

K&R woo me with science Nov 2013 #14

at least those NJ dems didn't vote for some dammned ol' liberatarian! KG Nov 2013 #18

One corporate party - two faces. polichick Nov 2013 #25

+1 warrant46 Nov 2013 #32

they didnt want to appear to lose to christie in a proxy war for 2016 La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #41

K&R for pissing off all the RIGHT people! Rex Nov 2013 #46

Despicable. 99Forever Nov 2013 #51

K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #52

Now wait a minute. I regularly see Obama supporters here insisting that liberals support Marr Nov 2013 #57

You're inventing facts to support your outrage. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #61

And the people who failed to endorse his opponent? Marr Nov 2013 #66

Blanche Lincoln is distinguishable geek tragedy Nov 2013 #71

Many people are defending Chrisite and his endorsers AND in reaity if a contest is actually Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #67

So , which races would you have abandoned to fund geek tragedy Nov 2013 #69

Most Excelent Point !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #64

Bingo! Notice how the Usual Suspects are staying quiet? Rex Nov 2013 #65

Dems laid down for NJ, Reps laid down for VA. Skip Intro Nov 2013 #70

"Bigger cogs turning" ? bvar22 Nov 2013 #72