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hedgehog

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44. An assassin is a special type of murderer - typically the assassin wants to take full credit
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 06:35 PM
Nov 2013

because his/her actions have accomplished a greater purpose - saved the country, extracted revenge, made grievances known, etc.

Conspiracy theories are fun. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #1
Exactly!!! aptal Nov 2013 #37
So is algebra. LanternWaste Nov 2013 #45
The Warren COmmission settled on their own conspiracy theory BlueStreak Nov 2013 #101
Any time some one mentions 911 while discussing JFK's JoePhilly Nov 2013 #106
Anybody who thinks the American public got the full story on either one of those is nuts BlueStreak Nov 2013 #107
because it was a national trauma i think - in a way that other assassinations haven't been el_bryanto Nov 2013 #2
Conspiracy theories are immune to facts. nt hack89 Nov 2013 #3
That statement is immune to logic. nt whatchamacallit Nov 2013 #6
Have you ever delved into the world of 911 Truth or Birtherism? hack89 Nov 2013 #8
I imagine Alfred Dreyfus, John Ehrlichman and all those involved in Iran-Contra would like to agree LanternWaste Nov 2013 #49
'Shhhh... actual thinking isn't allowed in conspiracy related threads! whistler162 Nov 2013 #58
It is RobertEarl Nov 2013 #4
I wonder how much the government of the Confederacy was involved in hedgehog Nov 2013 #10
Some people are closed minded and refuse to accept the massive evidence that Oswald killed Kennedy cpwm17 Nov 2013 #60
Bless you. RobertEarl Nov 2013 #63
The primary reason it wasn't a conspiracy.... HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #65
A lone gunman does not preclude multiple "killers". RagAss Nov 2013 #5
Too many loose ends in the JFK saga not to have conspiracy theories even after 50 years. mc51tc Nov 2013 #7
Marina Oswald now says her husband was set up as 'a patsy' from India Today newspaper mc51tc Nov 2013 #19
Bush did not head up CIA at time of JFK's assassination. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #22
Thanks for the correction. mc51tc Nov 2013 #35
Bush was obviously CIA prior to being DCI in '75-76. Zen Democrat Nov 2013 #54
He had contact with the CIA, no question. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #64
The immediate reaction of various government groups, FBI, CIA, Armed Forces hedgehog Nov 2013 #46
this list is just as scary under any GOP president Hamlette Nov 2013 #55
IMO, the Warren Commission came closest. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #67
prolly about right Hamlette Nov 2013 #68
Evolution: fact or fiction? I think the fact that we even ask the question ieoeja Nov 2013 #9
I haven't seen too many CTs re the JFK assassination. I HAVE seen some disturbing, legitimate sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #11
JFK was hit with two bullets. One was a full-metal one which was recovered after hitting multiple AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #17
Well, they think that the words CT are an insult, but it has been used, oddly enough, so often sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #20
The purpose of "official investigations"... HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #40
Forget the word conspiracy. It was a murder and there's no evidence Oswald fired a shot. Zen Democrat Nov 2013 #56
"There's no evidence Oswald fired a shot" zappaman Nov 2013 #57
Exactly HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #66
Maybe you should read Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry's book from 1969. Zen Democrat Nov 2013 #79
Eyewitnesses actually are often rather poor evidence.... HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #85
Sure Oswald was seen at the Book Depository right before and after the assassination. Zen Democrat Nov 2013 #108
The signifigance of the choice of the Carcano is that the Italian manufacturer had multiple AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #99
My father used to say that it was the Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #82
I have seen too many CTs re the JFK assassination. zappaman Nov 2013 #12
Since you've proven (exhaustively) all those theories to be impossible whatchamacallit Nov 2013 #13
How about you pick one and show us how all the evidence fits? zappaman Nov 2013 #43
It's weird that so many intelligent people can believe that conspiracy theories are crackpot. Zen Democrat Nov 2013 #81
"That means that these people do not believe in the possibility of conspiracies." zappaman Nov 2013 #84
One exception to the Joint Chiefs of Staff was Marine Commandant Shoup who disagreed with a AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #92
It's the notion that so many people could conceivably have wanted to hedgehog Nov 2013 #14
Murder on the Dealey Plaza Express n/t Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #28
"carefully collected data to prove that it was a lone gunman" - Actually, they immediately knew that AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #15
The single bullet.... HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #105
CT'ers are scared shitless of two words... Archae Nov 2013 #16
A more interesting pathology is the mind that can't accept that conspiracies do sometimes occur. whatchamacallit Nov 2013 #18
those people are as impervious to logic and facts as CT nutjobs, then Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #23
My understanding is that rather than claiming the glory, hedgehog Nov 2013 #34
Oswald would hardly be the first accused murderer to claim innocence. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #41
An assassin is a special type of murderer - typically the assassin wants to take full credit hedgehog Nov 2013 #44
You think? nyquil_man Nov 2013 #47
Sic semper tyrannis hedgehog Nov 2013 #48
After which he ran for his horse and raced out of the area. nt nyquil_man Nov 2013 #50
nice circular logic. the fact that there is such a strong CT is proof there must be a conspiracy? Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #21
I'm not saying it was a conspriracy, just that it's hedgehog Nov 2013 #24
"so many people who seem to be rational on other topics" -- Key word: seem Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #26
A significant number of people still believe Area 51 harbored aliens, too. randome Nov 2013 #27
And a significant number of people still believe that nothing improper was done during the Watergate LanternWaste Nov 2013 #51
I rarely buy into conspiracy theories wercal Nov 2013 #25
The doctor at Parkland who worked on JFK mc51tc Nov 2013 #31
Surgeon in ER insists 2 gunmen shot JFK Doctor first to see Kennedy's wound mc51tc Nov 2013 #33
Bullets do strange things and bounce around like crazy wercal Nov 2013 #36
Initial News Reports Suggested Otherwise jberryhill Nov 2013 #29
For those of us who were alive then, it's stil too soon. hedgehog Nov 2013 #32
+1 nt MADem Nov 2013 #62
"It was all too big, too sudden, too overwhelming, and it meant too much." nyquil_man Nov 2013 #30
Oswald killed JFK, Ruby killed Oswald, Ruby dies in prison. Rex Nov 2013 #38
I guess the entire month of November is JFK tin foil month in GD... SidDithers Nov 2013 #39
No, the entire month of November is being dedicated to the 50th aniversary of the murder sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #59
"Conspiracy theories are true"/"Conspiracy theories are bullshit" is a false dichotomy. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #42
No. When Hillary Clinton said there was a "vast RW conspiracy" we didn't get out the foil, KurtNYC Nov 2013 #52
If there wan't a conspiracy, the government would unseal the records. SolutionisSolidarity Nov 2013 #53
How easy for a kid from the bronx streets get an early discharge from the USMC, CK_John Nov 2013 #61
His military career was less than stellar. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #71
Either it was one guy or it was not. Octafish Nov 2013 #69
This bullet that caused the wounds? zappaman Nov 2013 #70
Not really. Octafish Nov 2013 #72
Just firing a bullet flattens it like that? That doesn't sound likely. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #73
Are you relying on evidence produced by the Warren Commission to disprove the Warren Report? nt nyquil_man Nov 2013 #74
Another important piece of evidence is the absence of a second bullet as durable as CE399. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #77
So a full metal jacket bullet will NEVER shatter into fragments Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #86
You're too funny. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #89
Funny is your attempt at avoiding an answer. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #91
No, funny is your asserted belief that bullets designed to not fragment, when hitting tissue, AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #93
But the head shot didn't just hit tissue, now, did it? n/t Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #94
Yes it did. Bone tissue and brain tissue. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #95
While you've got the dictionary open and are looking random words like disingenuous Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #96
You're still too funny. Do you think that everyone one should respond to your bait? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #97
I expect people to back up the things they assert about this event with facts. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #100
Another important piece of evidence is the absence of a second bullet as durable as CE399. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #102
There was no frangible bullet fired at JFK that day. See my #98 in this thread. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #103
John Kerry has doubts Oswald acted alone in the JFK assassination mc51tc Nov 2013 #75
How many remember this ???? RagAss Nov 2013 #76
i'm not a conspiracty theorist, DesertFlower Nov 2013 #78
So, one more time. Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #80
One quick thing about the back brace. The Dallas doctors said he had a small brace around his waist. Zen Democrat Nov 2013 #83
Here's a picture of the back brace with JFK in it. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #87
The stretcher bullet is also different from the frangible bullet which exploded upon contact and AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #90
A frangible bullet did not strike JFK that day. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #98
Follow the money. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #88
Oy vey, he was whacked. Maybe he wouldn't escalate Vietnam. Maybe something else. valerief Nov 2013 #104
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