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Azathoth

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45. Allowing people to keep junk insurance defeats the entire purpose of the law
Thu Nov 7, 2013, 11:56 PM
Nov 2013

This isn't a mistake in the law; it's a fundamental design feature that Obama and Co. simply didn't want to talk about. The entire object is to force everybody -- healthy and sick -- into comprehensive health plans. That's how you diversify the risk and pay for pre-existing conditions and high risk subscribers (and also take the burden off of states' charity care budgets). If you allow people to get away with having junk insurance, then everyone who isn't sick or at risk will simply keep their comical "$50 and a lollipop (real 'murkins don't need hospital care!)" plans leaving only sick folk to enroll in the comprehensive plans, making those plans unsustainable. Meanwhile, the rest of the independent market will remain dangerously underinsured, and this whole frigging thing will be for naught.

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not. happening. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #1
Because -----------------? hooverville29 Nov 2013 #2
wont pass senate, prez would not sign it ... JoePhilly Nov 2013 #3
Indications are D+R votes are there in Senate. Prez follows up on apology, and hooverville29 Nov 2013 #6
Reid does not have to bring it to a vote JoePhilly Nov 2013 #8
These are Reid's *own people* who are running for re-election, with Dem control hooverville29 Nov 2013 #13
Is that how you think it works? Mary gets to tell Harry which bills he JoePhilly Nov 2013 #18
It's control of the Senate in 2014 that's at stake. If you think Reid will hooverville29 Nov 2013 #20
Now Reids control over the senate is at stake ... unless he ... JoePhilly Nov 2013 #30
Yep, and that shifts the problem from the Senate Dems to the White House hooverville29 Nov 2013 #33
You mean Obama might not get a 3rd term if he vetoes the bill that ... JoePhilly Nov 2013 #35
It's control of the Senate in 2014 that's at stake. If you think Reid will djnicadress Nov 2013 #47
Eff Mary Landrieu. She's a DINO. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #42
The plans people are "losing" are pieces of shit... Barack_America Nov 2013 #5
But it was *their* choice as to what they wanted and could afford. Tonight's apology hooverville29 Nov 2013 #9
People are now required to have health insurance. These policies insured nothing. Barack_America Nov 2013 #31
It's the deductible levels & premiums for perfectly fine policies that's the killer hooverville29 Nov 2013 #34
Yup, and you can hear him say almost exactly that in the interview. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #38
You're not coughing up blood little Timmy, you're coughing up FREEDUMB!!! JaneyVee Nov 2013 #43
yea, but FREEDUMB!!!!!! JoePhilly Nov 2013 #10
Well let them keep it and see who comes out on the short end of the GOP stick. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #4
Won't work. Insurance companies cancel various policies every year... Tx4obama Nov 2013 #7
Well, he apologized tonight for saying incorrectly that they could keep them. If he hooverville29 Nov 2013 #11
Hes sorry that the insurers are getting another chance to screw these folks JoePhilly Nov 2013 #14
Exactly. Not happening. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #12
And. BTW, California Insurance Comm. working out that very thing with BCBS now hooverville29 Nov 2013 #16
what ever they work out has to comply withthe ACA JoePhilly Nov 2013 #39
Nope. Obama's poor choice of wording aside. Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #15
Right. Let's be sure to play dictator & go down the tubes in 2014 hooverville29 Nov 2013 #19
No, I have to disagree. Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #22
You'd better stay tuned in on this one. It's going the other way hooverville29 Nov 2013 #24
Not without a fight. Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #26
And I served in Korea (I'm 84) & have a Purple Heart. Stick to the subject. hooverville29 Nov 2013 #29
I am Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #46
Stop ProSense Nov 2013 #23
All of which explains, of course, how KC closed fast when he really hit the ACA. Facts hooverville29 Nov 2013 #27
"Cooky Cooch" lost, and only a fool would advocate keeping junk insurance plans. n/t ProSense Nov 2013 #28
Nobody's advocating anything but letting people keep what they have till they want hooverville29 Nov 2013 #32
You are ProSense Nov 2013 #36
other than the libertarian losing about 4% to crazy cooch JoePhilly Nov 2013 #40
Landrieu will probably lose (like that odious Blanche Lincoln) SoCalDem Nov 2013 #17
Decide what others should do all you wish, but this one's not going away hooverville29 Nov 2013 #21
I'll be phone bombing my representation. Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #25
I have a thought sobenji Nov 2013 #37
That would have prevented the insurers from one last chance to screw these folks some more. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #41
You all can keep it , but you alls gots to find it... Historic NY Nov 2013 #44
Allowing people to keep junk insurance defeats the entire purpose of the law Azathoth Nov 2013 #45
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