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cali

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Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:11 AM Nov 2013

Look, I know a lot of people don't want to discuss the problems of the ACA [View all]

but ignoring those problems and going with the line "it's just the website", is silly.

It's an important issue.

I strongly support the ACA and I fervently hope that the problems plaguing it will get ironed out, but I'm concerned. Yeah, concerned, so go ahead label me as a "concern troll". That won't change a thing.

this morning I heard an interview with an Alaskan woman who is one of 36 people in Alaska who have signed up for insurance via the government website. she's a former web designer. It was an interesting interview. She was pleasantly surprised by the prices but she had a hell of a time using the website.

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Imler's degree is in computer programming, and she's even built a few websites. She thinks that experience helped her persevere through the trouble spots on HealthCare.gov.

"You get to a point where you finally get to pick what health insurance you want and all the buttons have to be double-clicked. If you don't know that or try that, it doesn't go anywhere. It just sits there," says Imler. "This website is so not user-friendly. You can't figure out what they're trying to get you to do, unless you accidentally get there."

About two hours after she started, she landed on a screen that told her she had successfully enrolled. She was pleasantly surprised by the price. Imler qualified for subsidies and chose a mid-level plan that will cost her $110 a month.

"The website sucks. I'm not going to lie," she says, "But the idea that I might be able to afford health insurance, is huge to me. It will be a huge burden off my family."

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http://www.ideastream.org/news/npr/243748519

I think there's a window within which the administration pretty much MUST get the website functioning fairly smoothly. Despite the "oh, it's just the website" perspective, it's VITAL that the website work well. It's the chief point of access for people.

John Cassidy of the New Yorker wrote an interesting and thoughtful piece yesterday:

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In short, it’s a mess—a fact some voices normally supportive of Obama are acknowledging. In a cover story for Business Week entitled “How the iPod President Crashed,” the columnist and blogger Ezra Klein argued that “the disastrous launch of healthcare.gov…has dealt a devastating blow to Obama’s vision” of healthcare transformed, and to the broader notion of activist government. Like Medicare Part D, Klein noted, the A.C.A. could “emerge from a troubled launch to become a wildly successful program. But reviving the idea that government can do big things right will be harder.”

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Perhaps the most damaging charge against Obama is that he didn’t express more interest in the building and testing of healthcare.gov, which, once so many Republican-run states declined to run their own sites, was always going to be the public face of an enormous new government program bearing his name. When well-run corporations make “bet the company” investments on a new product or acquisition, their C.E.O. is usually there to supervise and lead. Even if the C.E.O. stays at HQ, he or she will demand daily briefings and updates. For the Obama Administration, rolling out the A.C.A. was the political equivalent of a bet-the-company investment. But, as far as we can tell, making sure the new Web site was constructed in time and worked properly was, for the most part, left to a largely anonymous, and doubtless overworked, bureaucrat at the Centers for Medicaid & Medicare Services, Henry Chao.

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The true test of the A.C.A. will come when healthcare.gov and the state-run Web sites are up and running properly. As I’ve said previously, I think the new exchanges, and particularly the generous new subsidies that are available on them, will eventually prove very popular, and Obamacare be a success on its own terms: i.e., it will substantially reduce the number of uninsured.

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The key to success is to get all the different parts of the A.C.A. working together: the mandates, the exchanges, and the new regulations for insurers. So far, of course, this is precisely what hasn’t happened. The employer mandate has been put back; the national exchange has proved a dud, and its failings are affecting some of the state exchanges, which need to get information from the federal government; the new regulations, which set minimum standards for all insurance policies, are causing some sticker shock. And with the reform stalled, so is the big promotional campaign that was supposed to persuade young people to sign up.

Obviously, much depends on the efforts of Zients and the team of whizzes he has recruited for his “tech surge.” If they can get healthcare.gov working properly on the timetable they have laid down, this will probably prove to be a crisis that Obama can rebound from—something like the budget crisis of 2011. The number of people enrolled on the exchanges will rise sharply, reporters will find some people who are happy with their new policies, and the news cycle will move on. If, however, the technical problems persist into December and the new year, the A.C.A. saga will take on some aspects of the scandals that did so much damage to previous two-term presidents. There will be more congressional hearings and damaging news stories; the internal recriminations will begin; and Obama’s approval rating will continue to slide.

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http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2013/11/the-politics-of-obama-and-obamacare.html

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Most of the pundits talking about how a web site works know nothing of how they JoePhilly Nov 2013 #1
Some of the website stuff is an absolute embarrassment. IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #2
that's what this woman said in the interview I heard on NPR this a.m. cali Nov 2013 #6
Woo hoo! I beat out NPR - lol! IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #11
Then you know the "multiple submit" problem is a common one. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #13
"Most sites include a warning right on the UI telling you to be patient -- " EXACTLY. IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #21
Glad it's not me PasadenaTrudy Nov 2013 #25
The administration has been clear that there are significant problems cali Nov 2013 #3
Perceptions also change ... I remember when the war in Syria was going to destroy Obama's JoePhilly Nov 2013 #18
yes, perceptions change and hopefully this one will cali Nov 2013 #27
What changed that was not perception. It was facts that emerged showing sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #82
that's just not true alc Nov 2013 #43
Very few projects run the way you describe. Ideally, most would ... JoePhilly Nov 2013 #52
Have you ever purchased a complex service that didn't take several DAYS to process? tridim Nov 2013 #4
I'm not complaining, but keep being an apologist who can't analyze anything cali Nov 2013 #8
Have you ever purchased a complex service that didn't take several DAYS to process? tridim Nov 2013 #16
What's pathetic, tri, is your apologist nonsense about everything cali Nov 2013 #41
Not offended, I just asked a question. tridim Nov 2013 #53
This post is unfair and insulting to Cali. IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #14
Jury let it stand 2-4 Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #19
Juries on DU are odd. I didn't even alert. IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #34
Have you ever purchased a complex service in two HOURS? nt tridim Nov 2013 #20
The question isn't about purchasing a complex service, but basic IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #37
Do you understand that the bulk of the website is back-end stuff that we will never see? tridim Nov 2013 #48
No way! Back end stuff on a website being IMPORTANT? IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #66
Yes seveneyes Nov 2013 #40
The back-end, marketplace interface is probably more complex than any of us know. tridim Nov 2013 #44
Entirely new health insurance policy for a family seveneyes Nov 2013 #47
Which company? tridim Nov 2013 #49
Sorry you feel that way. The jury didn't. nt tridim Nov 2013 #28
"But keep complaining Cali, you're very skilled at it." is insulting. IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #42
I just find the hoopla over the ACA to be so strange Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #5
My doctor doesn't accept Romneycare. virgogal Nov 2013 #9
So your doctor doesn't accept private insurance? Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #12
This is my same response to Repugs who say "Democrats will force doctors to accept Obamacare" stevenleser Nov 2013 #22
Haven't a clue-----I'm on Medicare but she told my daughter,who was jobless virgogal Nov 2013 #24
Some doctors don't accept Medicare or Medicaid (Masshealth) Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #35
Most primary care doctors in Anchorage don't accept new Medicare patients. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #78
Are you sure she wasn't talking about whatever MA calls Medicaid? pnwmom Nov 2013 #86
Commonwealth Care is different from Masshealth (Medicaid) Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #87
not possible. that would mean your doc doesn't accept private insurance scheming daemons Nov 2013 #30
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2013 #38
She explains above Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #45
Doctors commonly take a range of private insurance plans, but not all Yo_Mama Nov 2013 #70
"... It's the chief point of access for people." True, but there are alternatives .... Scuba Nov 2013 #7
I think that's a very good point cali Nov 2013 #10
Sure, you can apply over the phone, but B2G Nov 2013 #51
Not sure why it seems that way. Most folks acknowledge the shortcomings and want to work on those. stevenleser Nov 2013 #15
you said 'go ahead and label you "concern troll"' ….. Okay Cali, you're a concern troll. KittyWampus Nov 2013 #17
that's fine. you know what I think of you. cali Nov 2013 #32
Forget "concern troll". I prefer attention getter. n/t Dawgs Nov 2013 #23
the site is better now than it was two weeks ago scheming daemons Nov 2013 #26
I'm glad to hear that. I hope you're right cali Nov 2013 #33
and I hope you're right scheming daemons Nov 2013 #39
I heard the NPR interview BlueStreak Nov 2013 #29
Some here are hurling themselves into the same sort of bubble... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #31
...cause big complicated programs with millions of people trying to sabotage it should be a cake... uponit7771 Nov 2013 #54
'Millions of people trying to sabotage it'? B2G Nov 2013 #55
yes, the gop involves millions of people.. few if any want the program to survive.... uponit7771 Nov 2013 #60
What does that have to do with the computer systems? B2G Nov 2013 #62
they under funded the development of the website and the integration. uponit7771 Nov 2013 #64
How so? B2G Nov 2013 #68
By holding back the 20 billiion that was needed for this G8 nationwide effort. Half a billion might uponit7771 Nov 2013 #69
You have no idea what you're talking about B2G Nov 2013 #71
I am, and have seen the issues with under funding efforts like this. This is typical under funded uponit7771 Nov 2013 #72
Please provide a link showing the budget was 20 billion B2G Nov 2013 #74
Would that fact change your mind any? tia uponit7771 Nov 2013 #76
About you being wrong? B2G Nov 2013 #77
... no about, my statement regarding GOPers wanting to sabotage the website? A simple yes uponit7771 Nov 2013 #79
Oh I'm sure they "want" to B2G Nov 2013 #80
I have not been yelling anything and I'll take your non answer as a no, that it wouldn't change uponit7771 Nov 2013 #81
I'm interested in where you get your 20 billion figure B2G Nov 2013 #85
No one has sabotaged anything... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #58
...the GOP has been gung ho for it?! REALLY?! uponit7771 Nov 2013 #61
+1 Demo Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #65
Lots of people lack the "intuition" required of "intuitive" programming... HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #36
You know Cali. I seldom, if ever agree with you. But on this, I do. bluestate10 Nov 2013 #46
Focusing only on the website Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #56
being a critic is easy, I've been one rickford66 Nov 2013 #50
...because everything and every part of government works perfectly. Oh sure it does ...duh L0oniX Nov 2013 #57
For some, truth is overrated and sometimes disapproved. Much better to be an enthusiastic lemming. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #59
that people here are trying desperately to quash any discussion cali Nov 2013 #63
Whine whine whine Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #67
there's nothing even remotely whiny about the OP cali Nov 2013 #73
it was whiny. people have acknowledged the problems. you merely pointed out Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #75
lol. you're the whiny one, prez. you whine over every mild criticism cali Nov 2013 #90
Why didn't they consult with Elad? Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2013 #83
Have you ever written an OP that was supportive of Obamacare? n/t pnwmom Nov 2013 #84
yes, many many. cali Nov 2013 #89
People don't want to talk about it? AceWheeler Nov 2013 #88
not even a little bit weird. not close to being a straw man either cali Nov 2013 #91
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