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38. the dad made a stupid choice that would have been praised by most people 50 years ago

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Dad 'wholly' incapable of caring for 4-year-old son because he refused to take kid to McDonald's [View all] alp227 Nov 2013 OP

I support this father whole-heartedly….NO CHILD NEEDS to go to mcdonalds.. Tikki Nov 2013 #1

Well, there's the rub kcr Nov 2013 #3

He did eat…his mother took him to mcdonalds.. Tikki Nov 2013 #10

But he didn't send him back with a sack full of nutritious foods kcr Nov 2013 #13

Hopefully, lesson learned…this child obviously needs his father.. Tikki Nov 2013 #16

I don't think his intentions were bad kcr Nov 2013 #18

I think he was being punished for not giving into the child. Yes, a divorce situation.. Tikki Nov 2013 #26

Where did I claim anyone should have given him McDonalds? kcr Nov 2013 #46

Both parents need to go into mediation and discuss parameters. Tikki Nov 2013 #49

"not better than nothing" Silent3 Nov 2013 #76

+1 n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #97

Did you not see the sentence where the father gave the kid a choice SheilaT Nov 2013 #52

Yes. So? kcr Nov 2013 #53

No. enlightenment Nov 2013 #60

Okay fine, do it at home kcr Nov 2013 #61

I think we're talking apples and oranges enlightenment Nov 2013 #66

If the kid continues to eat at McGrease He will have a photo future warrant46 Nov 2013 #94

The dad offered to take him somewhere else. The kid refused. stevenleser Nov 2013 #19

The headline is doing the spinning kcr Nov 2013 #22

Sorry, that is B.S. What is acceptable in a non-divorce situation should apply stevenleser Nov 2013 #44

I'm sorry kcr Nov 2013 #45

I'm not talking perfect world, I'm talking what happens 99.9999% of the time. stevenleser Nov 2013 #54

Well yes, but in custody battles it's not. kcr Nov 2013 #56

Which is exactly why I focused the problem on how things get spun in custody battles. stevenleser Nov 2013 #64

I think the problem, at least when discussing it, is the perception kcr Nov 2013 #71

I believe Solomon had the, or at least a, fix for that particular problem Fumesucker Nov 2013 #140

Cutting the cheeseburger in half? kcr Nov 2013 #144

I prefer to think of it as dividing the assets n/t Fumesucker Nov 2013 #165

Then you have not Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #100

Sorry kcr Nov 2013 #103

So your real life is more valid than mine. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #109

Well, why is your real life more valid than mine? kcr Nov 2013 #112

If you want to visit the suspension notice and follow-up Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #120

If it's sending me actual personal info on other people, no kcr Nov 2013 #121

They are links to documents available on the internet, Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #135

And your offer doesn't change my point. kcr Nov 2013 #142

"No one ever offers real evidence that these ridiculous things happen." Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #146

How does your one case prove my point? kcr Nov 2013 #149

One of your points was that no one offers to provide evidence Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #152

Well good for you. kcr Nov 2013 #153

Are these people "somebody" up there, because how does one parent have enough clout to get Hestia Nov 2013 #122

He is a former corporate attorney. Not sure how prominent. stevenleser Nov 2013 #125

Such Bullshit dballance Nov 2013 #87

Okay, fine. kcr Nov 2013 #91

Because he gave the kid two options already dballance Nov 2013 #128

I don't think asking actually constitutes giving an option kcr Nov 2013 #129

Perhaps father was trying to be a good parent and this isn’t a case of not feeding a child left is right Nov 2013 #164

I think that's exactly what happened kcr Nov 2013 #168

That's how I was raised. 2naSalit Nov 2013 #115

some of us were spanked too. Doesn't mean we should excuse it now. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #143

Have you ever tried to feed a toddler? Barack_America Nov 2013 #155

I have raised two children, so yes I know how difficult it can be to get them to eat. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #169

Gues we'll have to 2naSalit Nov 2013 #163

He offered the child another meal. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #96

He didn't offer it. He merely asked. kcr Nov 2013 #98

As several other posters have pointed out, Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #105

They are when you're a parent in a custodial battle. kcr Nov 2013 #107

Point to that quote in the article, please. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #111

what am I exaggerating? kcr Nov 2013 #114

Here's a couple. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #117

Not in the article? kcr Nov 2013 #119

Neither of those two statements Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #137

The statements verbatim aren't, but the info is. kcr Nov 2013 #141

No, the info is not. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #145

But he didn't! kcr Nov 2013 #148

Well you actually have been saying it was unacceptable. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #150

No. I never said it was unacceptable. kcr Nov 2013 #151

. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #154

Really. kcr Nov 2013 #156

And nice cherry picking kcr Nov 2013 #157

I was respondig to your statment that you never said it was unacceptable. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #158

And I didn't kcr Nov 2013 #159

wrong spot kcr Nov 2013 #113

And while we're at it kcr Nov 2013 #108

The point isn't what food he offered. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #116

It is if he's going to claim they're deeming him unfit kcr Nov 2013 #118

The Boy did not get to eat that night and later died. BlueJazz Nov 2013 #102

Okay. Fine. kcr Nov 2013 #106

I was being sarcasic with all the other posts. BlueJazz Nov 2013 #127

Sorry. It's hard to tell. kcr Nov 2013 #131

so you want to treat a child like a dog dlwickham Nov 2013 #17

Actually I hope your not a parent FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #79

the child handmade34 Nov 2013 #2

He didn't give into a temper tantrum gollygee Nov 2013 #4

+1 Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #7

He didn't feed his child. I think that's the point of contention... randome Nov 2013 #9

"You can eat McD's or nothing" gollygee Nov 2013 #11

He could have taken the child to another restaurant. He didn't. kcr Nov 2013 #14

He said the option of another restaurant was there gollygee Nov 2013 #21

The option was there. The father should have taken it. kcr Nov 2013 #24

I think it would have been wisest to go to another restaurant gollygee Nov 2013 #29

I think if he'd done that kcr Nov 2013 #31

People get stuck in either/or mindsets gollygee Nov 2013 #33

To be clear, I don't think so either. kcr Nov 2013 #41

You never starve a 4 year old child. You never give them that kind of choice. randome Nov 2013 #15

The child could have gone to another restaurant gollygee Nov 2013 #20

That's a terrible view of parenting, IMO. A 4 year old who misses a meal is starving. randome Nov 2013 #25

Really. Who's the parent here? kcr Nov 2013 #27

I have a 4-year-old gollygee Nov 2013 #30

LOL, "A 4 year old who misses a meal is starving" snooper2 Nov 2013 #51

Yes, I raised 2 daughters. You do not let your child miss a meal. randome Nov 2013 #62

So what do you recommend if missing any single meal is supposedly such a calamity? Silent3 Nov 2013 #67

Good point. If the kid refuses to eat, that's a different matter. randome Nov 2013 #72

I understood it was the child who refused to eat. Kaleva Nov 2013 #78

The father did offer a different restaurant as well. Silent3 Nov 2013 #80

An empty tummy is unpleasant for a night. alphafemale Nov 2013 #138

That's hilarious. jeff47 Nov 2013 #70

Well, none of us knows this kid's physical requirements. randome Nov 2013 #73

The kids physical requirements are either they can miss a meal jeff47 Nov 2013 #95

You can't force a 4 year old to eat if they don't want to arikara Nov 2013 #86

Yep. The other side isn't commenting kcr Nov 2013 #12

His child refused to eat anything but McDonalds? NoOneMan Nov 2013 #37

No. Go home. Give the kid a banana. A piece of bread. Anything. randome Nov 2013 #75

My kid's temper tantrums were met with absolute refusal to do/buy Nay Nov 2013 #47

Giving into a temper tantrum is the worst thing you can do. alphafemale Nov 2013 #139

I wonder if the mother and psychologist are friends or share mutual friends... penultimate Nov 2013 #5

There MUST be more going on here than declining to go to McDonalds. Shrike47 Nov 2013 #6

There is, there is a divorce and custody... n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #32

Certainly there is. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #59

This sounds like my life Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #8

I guess I'm wholly incapable for caring for my children... sarisataka Nov 2013 #23

This sounds like a setup. Say yes and you're unfit because you feed your kid junk. Say no and... JVS Nov 2013 #28

Sounds like the child comes by the stubborn honestly. IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #34

The kid learned that temper tantrums work B2G Nov 2013 #35

All the posts saying the father... Wait Wut Nov 2013 #36

But at least he would have tried. kcr Nov 2013 #48

Exactly. So well said I have nothing to add! stevenleser Nov 2013 #55

the dad made a stupid choice that would have been praised by most people 50 years ago yurbud Nov 2013 #38

when I was 4 years old, I ate what was on the table - restaurants not an option. ConcernedCanuk Nov 2013 #39

I don't think the story is the man, wife or child, it's the shrink hughee99 Nov 2013 #40

Is Mom paying the shrink? bklyncowgirl Nov 2013 #82

I gotta be honest both my parents used to make dinner and put it in front of me say this is dinner Arcanetrance Nov 2013 #42

Exactly. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #74

I don't believe this. Nine Nov 2013 #43

All ya gotta know is "custody battle" which turns parenting into a political campaign of smears and stevenleser Nov 2013 #65

Agreed. Mom and shrink both sound like assholes with an agenda, and Dad Nay Nov 2013 #166

How did I know that that the words "custody battle" would be involved? JHB Nov 2013 #50

Why would ANY parent give a 4-year-old a CHOICE? That's insane. nt valerief Nov 2013 #57

I give my 4 your old a choice all the time. hugo_from_TN Nov 2013 #69

Exactly!!! pipi_k Nov 2013 #89

perfect answer! Scout Nov 2013 #90

^^^THIS^^^ TorchTheWitch Nov 2013 #93

+1. We started doing this as soon as my kid had the ability to indicate a preference. winter is coming Nov 2013 #161

That's brilliant! nt IronLionZion Nov 2013 #167

There's quite a bit of research on that Nevernose Nov 2013 #110

Fast food aside, if you give in to temper tantrums you will get more of them. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #58

If that's the case, that shrink would have found my parents incapable of caring for me Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #63

If you're going to give a kid pipi_k Nov 2013 #68

He did not offer the child a choice between McDs and hunger. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #104

Stories like this make me happy to be childless. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #77

+1 Silent3 Nov 2013 #81

Kid sounds like a spoiled brat to me. bklyncowgirl Nov 2013 #83

Thing is... pipi_k Nov 2013 #88

The father offered to take the kid somewhere else--the kid refused--McDonalds or nothing. bklyncowgirl Nov 2013 #99

The article is so simplistic that it's pointless to think we know what happened. nolabear Nov 2013 #84

I agree with the father. Frustratedlady Nov 2013 #85

Our family was vegetarian: me, Dad and son. No meat and all was well. Until soccer and after-game libdem4life Nov 2013 #92

No, actually, I'd say that makes him an excellent father. Arkana Nov 2013 #101

The child is a spoiled brat LittleBlue Nov 2013 #123

Assuming the father's version of the story is true... ljm2002 Nov 2013 #124

I support the father for 2 reasons. appleannie1 Nov 2013 #126

Pardon me for butting in, because sometimes you know I come up with ideas that are just too crazy... derby378 Nov 2013 #130

Assuming that this story is being reported accurately (which is not always the case, of course) LeftishBrit Nov 2013 #132

Why do I think there is MORE to this story? SoCalDem Nov 2013 #133

Because of course there is Egnever Nov 2013 #147

LOL. When my kid was a young toddler (as in <2), we ordered a Caesar salad winter is coming Nov 2013 #162

I don't know any parent that thinks giving in to temper tantrums is good parenting Taitertots Nov 2013 #134

exactly Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #136

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