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79. I'm sorry, but that's just silly.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 01:18 PM
Nov 2013

It's silly to pretend that corporate Democrats are moving us incrementally leftward AT ALL.

We are not moving leftward. We are moving rightward into corporate slavery. The gap between rich and poor is increasing, not decreasing. The rich are getting richer, and more and more of us are being driven into poverty. The middle class has been devastated. Public schools are being closed. Paved roads are becoming gravel roads. No, we are not moving leftward. All of the recovery, ALL OF IT, has gone to the wealthy few. It was not a recovery. It was a deliberate restructuring upward of the wealth in this country, and the pattern is only escalating. And it is escalating because of POLICY.

It is an outright lie that corporate Democrats are moving us leftward. Exactly the opposite is true. And the insulting cherry on top in the corporate talking points is this outrageous implication, which you just repeated here, that what people are demanding is somehow extreme...that we are demanding "the perfect."

That's ABSURD.

All we need are genuine, sincere Democrats in the old tradition, who will simply stand for traditional Democratic goals and values, so that we move leftward instead of continuing this march deeper into corporate slavery:

Defending Social Security and Medicare instead of using them as bargaining chips.

Pushing economic policy that actually works, rather than corporate scams like austerity that impoverish ordinary people, enrich the one percent, and starve and damage economies.

Standing with working citizens instead of predatory corporations and banks trying to deregulate themselves.

And fighting for simple Democratic principles, like that no one in this outrageously wealthy country should have to fear homelessness or destitution merely from being sick or elderly or wanting an education or having only one breadwinner in the house.


Non-corporate-driven Democrats don't negotiate and fast-track super-secret trade deals that will impoverish millions and elevate corporate power over national sovereignty. Non-corporate-driven Democrats don't vote bipartisanly to gut financial regulations on big banks that have already destroyed the middle class in this country. Non-corporate-driven Democrats don't give soaring speeches about the merits of austerity and recommend cuts in Social Security and Medicare when child poverty in this nation rivals that of ROMANIA and one out of five seniors is hungry.

We have a cancer in our politics. We have a deadly malignancy of corporate money driving and corrupting policy direction in both parties. The corporate Republican Party has long been corrupted in this way, and they have tried to loot the country for a long time. The only reason the looting is succeeding now is that corporatists have infiltrated the Democratic Party, too, and Democrats have abandoned their traditional role of standing BETWEEN the nation and these policies.

The demands of the 99 percent are not extreme, but neither corporate party seems interested in them...except during election seasons, when they invariably dust off the old talking points and pretend they do.



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And there it is: the GOP shows up, and we don't [View all] Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 OP
Maybe that's because they lost in 2012 and we didn't? brooklynite Nov 2013 #1
Staying home after a big win Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #5
it's all a trust me system questionseverything Nov 2013 #56
Or show up for the other party. Really, 31% Skidmore Nov 2013 #2
Yeah, no freakin' kidding!!! calimary Nov 2013 #3
nor was ronald reagan spanone Nov 2013 #42
ronald reagan WAS a national disaster. One of the worst things to happen to America in all of its calimary Nov 2013 #66
Agreed Stuckinthebush Nov 2013 #19
A Democrat who votes for Christie Jakes Progress Nov 2013 #28
WTF- ruffburr Nov 2013 #4
Too True! mimi85 Nov 2013 #39
Bad candidate leads to lower participation. Mass Nov 2013 #6
Definitely part of it Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #9
It's very well established that our electorate turns out every four years, whereas theirs geek tragedy Nov 2013 #12
Bad participation leads to bad candidates. gulliver Nov 2013 #69
I worked several GOTV phone banks at a distance (from CA) emsimon33 Nov 2013 #7
Democrats will not come out to vote AGAINST a candidate tularetom Nov 2013 #8
Bull. That's at least 75% of why I came out to vote. Jester Messiah Nov 2013 #11
I'm in Oregon passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #18
Man, I wish. Jester Messiah Nov 2013 #46
So, because you do it that means all Democrats think like you? tularetom Nov 2013 #27
I made no such sweeping statement. Jester Messiah Nov 2013 #45
I've spent my adult life voting AGAINST candidates. nt Codeine Nov 2013 #72
Jon Stewart may have also been a factor in the young people's vote emsimon33 Nov 2013 #10
The awfulness of the opponent does not turn poop into ice cream TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #21
Yea, the conflating issues with Stewart keeps me away from watching him.. busterbrown Nov 2013 #30
Same here! mimi85 Nov 2013 #43
Conservative vote was higher than last year but still lower than the previous gov race. progressoid Nov 2013 #13
Okay I give. McAuliffe should just concede right now. Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #14
No. And you missed the boat. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2013 #31
And then there's that pesky fact about 2naSalit Nov 2013 #15
I am tired of excuses. People didn't show up. The Judge's decision didn't bluestate10 Nov 2013 #36
Ahem... Democrats turned out in NJ Fumesucker Nov 2013 #47
Bearing in mind that the repuke AG candidate ledas by 219 votes, pending a recount, KamaAina Nov 2013 #63
In 94, I was one of millions who didn't vote and didn't file for an absentee ballot SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2013 #16
Get Minimum Wage Increase referendums on as many state ballots as possible! scheming daemons Nov 2013 #60
I agree completely. How do we influence the DNC? SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2013 #62
Here comes the minimum wage hike referendum . . . SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2013 #68
i mean putting it on state ballots as a referendum scheming daemons Nov 2013 #70
So do I. This is how you get there. n/t SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2013 #81
I'm confused. I thought we swept Virginia? cui bono Nov 2013 #17
...and we won. Iggo Nov 2013 #20
isn't that the job of the DNC? getting out the vote? frylock Nov 2013 #22
Based on my experience in WI, HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #24
word up frylock Nov 2013 #29
Yep...they walked away from it. zeemike Nov 2013 #44
Rec AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #51
+1 leftstreet Nov 2013 #55
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2013 #73
Yup. struggle4progress Nov 2013 #23
We blow it every fucking time we don't bother to vote. aquart Nov 2013 #25
Then explain why Cryptoad Nov 2013 #26
I lost a school board seat Cosmocat Nov 2013 #32
This is nothing new, Democrats suck ass at getting their message out Snake Plissken Nov 2013 #33
You can thank the "3rd Way" "New Democrats" for the muddled message. bvar22 Nov 2013 #57
Rec AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #65
The far Left purists will find holes in the information, at least in their minds. bluestate10 Nov 2013 #34
Well said... SidDithers Nov 2013 #35
Slight correction … 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #67
+1 the base is not anyone who would ever suggest not voting nt treestar Nov 2013 #71
Well, Democrats have jobs they have to work BlueStreak Nov 2013 #37
I think we need to yell at democratic constituencies more DireStrike Nov 2013 #38
Run candidates that people want to vote for. LittleBlue Nov 2013 #40
That's why "Republicans hope for rain on election day" underpants Nov 2013 #41
Lots of work to do here, it has almost always been this way in non-Presidential election years. stevenleser Nov 2013 #48
don't think that really uses the right stats hfojvt Nov 2013 #49
What a great sign for 2014 and 2016. We don't even show up = we sweep to victory! Coyotl Nov 2013 #50
the gop knows that voter suppression in its many forms is their one last hope. unblock Nov 2013 #52
Is Terry McAuliffe a liberal or a progressive? Or is he another 3rd-Way politician? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #53
+1 I believe the "lesser of two evils" game is wearing thin. woo me with science Nov 2013 #64
That's life, no one is going to always get a clear choice and with people clear choice is the except uponit7771 Nov 2013 #74
No, that's a cop out. woo me with science Nov 2013 #75
No, it's reality... we can always run a better candidate after choose the best of the worst availabl uponit7771 Nov 2013 #76
That's not an argument. woo me with science Nov 2013 #77
No on denied corporate money, I'm denying that 1. Looking for perfect in humans IS practical its not uponit7771 Nov 2013 #78
I'm sorry, but that's just silly. woo me with science Nov 2013 #79
I never said they were, I'm claiming it's silly to NOT vote vs progress with what's available uponit7771 Nov 2013 #80
This pattern is common throughout history Agnosticsherbet Nov 2013 #54
People vote for faces Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #58
Yep. We struggle to get ours out in off year elections scheming daemons Nov 2013 #59
Common knowledge....High voter turnout favors Democrats. Wounded Bear Nov 2013 #61
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