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In reply to the discussion: Wikileak's Sarah Harrison, Snowden asylum assistant now in exile [View all]Denzil_DC
(9,222 posts)159. This is a whole lot of verbage to fail to answer a simple question.
Despite your bloviating, the stories you yourself linked to as some sort of proof of even-handedness appear never to have materialized, unless you know better and can supply the links I asked for. You pointed to those links as some sort of proof that Wikileaks was working with journalists on stories about Russian corruption. Were those journalists "shut down", too? You made the claim, I didn't. I asked you about it. The burden of proof is on you, so don't bother trying to deflect.
Indeed, has Wikileaks in fact been "shut down" since 2010, as you claim? A quick check of Wikipedia says that it hasn't, and you're wrong about that:
201112
Main articles: Guantanamo Bay files leak, Global Intelligence Files leak, and Syria Files
In late April 2011, files related to the Guantanamo prison were released.[167] In December 2011, WikiLeaks started to release the Spy Files.[168] On 27 February 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing more than five million emails from the Texas-headquartered "global intelligence" company Stratfor.[169]
On 5 July 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing the Syria Files, more than two million emails from Syrian political figures, ministries and associated companies, dating from August 2006 to March 2012.[170]
On Thursday, 25 October 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing The Detainee Policies, more than 100 classified or otherwise restricted files from the United States Department of Defense covering the rules and procedures for detainees in U.S. military custody.[171]
2013
On April 8, 2013, WikiLeaks published more than 1.7 million U.S. diplomatic and intelligence documents from the 1970s. These documents included the Kissinger cables.[172]
On 5 September 2013 Dagens Næringsliv said that Wikileaks, on the previous evening, had published on its website "the whereabouts of 20 chiefs of European surveillance technology companies, during the last year".[173] This was part of Wikileaks Spy Files 3 project, which was a release of close to[173] 250 documents from more than 90 surveillance companies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks
Main articles: Guantanamo Bay files leak, Global Intelligence Files leak, and Syria Files
In late April 2011, files related to the Guantanamo prison were released.[167] In December 2011, WikiLeaks started to release the Spy Files.[168] On 27 February 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing more than five million emails from the Texas-headquartered "global intelligence" company Stratfor.[169]
On 5 July 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing the Syria Files, more than two million emails from Syrian political figures, ministries and associated companies, dating from August 2006 to March 2012.[170]
On Thursday, 25 October 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing The Detainee Policies, more than 100 classified or otherwise restricted files from the United States Department of Defense covering the rules and procedures for detainees in U.S. military custody.[171]
2013
On April 8, 2013, WikiLeaks published more than 1.7 million U.S. diplomatic and intelligence documents from the 1970s. These documents included the Kissinger cables.[172]
On 5 September 2013 Dagens Næringsliv said that Wikileaks, on the previous evening, had published on its website "the whereabouts of 20 chiefs of European surveillance technology companies, during the last year".[173] This was part of Wikileaks Spy Files 3 project, which was a release of close to[173] 250 documents from more than 90 surveillance companies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks
Judging by that, Wikileaks doesn't sound too "shut down" to me, so why do you claim something that's demonstrably untrue? Did you just not know?
I didn't "latch on" to anything. It's a valid question. One you've failed to answer satisfactorily, yet again, despite the squid cloud of words above.
As for continuing this conversation, if all you're going to do in response to a simple question is overreact and try to obfuscate, then save your energy, as it's not convincing.
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Wikileak's Sarah Harrison, Snowden asylum assistant now in exile [View all]
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
OP
You haven't followed Wikileaks work, have you? No one has been spared from Whistle Blowers
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#8
Crumbs compared to the scale of it there. Also, why aren't Greenwald, Snowden and Assange
stevenleser
Nov 2013
#9
BS, they publish what they get from Whistle Blowers, they can't manufacture what they
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#21
Grantcart did the research and called BS on your links downthread. They arent interested in
stevenleser
Nov 2013
#72
This hearsay you are pushing doesn't amount to anything. I noticed you provide no links
stevenleser
Nov 2013
#74
Their agenda has always been clear. Did you think they were hiding it? Again demonstrating
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#78
Again, your contentions mean nothing. Provide links to back you up or it means nothing. nt
stevenleser
Nov 2013
#88
Clearly you are unable to back up your claims. That was obvious to me from the
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#94
On DU, it is widely accepted that one does not need to prove a negative. You need to prove your
stevenleser
Nov 2013
#104
You made the claim that Wikileaks is not 'covering all the corruption in Russia'. I corrected
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#127
You surely are aware that Wikileaks was accused of being PRO US because they
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#129
The US has prevented Wikileaks from releasing anything from Russia or anywhere
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#81
You don't even know how ridiculous that sounds. Wikileaks is an international organization
stevenleser
Nov 2013
#89
Their agenda is clear and has never been hidden. What a ridiculous thing to say.
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#97
If releasing Whistle Blower material is 'attacking' a country, then they have 'attacked'
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#123
Not my interest. I don't have to live up to someone else's failed tag line.
stevenleser
Nov 2013
#100
Have you read any of the Wikileaks cables? Apparently not. Russia wasn't happy
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#75
I am missing nothing. I have been aware of and followed Wikileaks and other New Media
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#83
Since Tiananmen Square occurred 17 years before Wikileaks was founded, it's a bit of a stretch
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#85
Sadly, my experience conversing with you frequently suggests you simply invent your claims,
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#110
Anyone who starts right out with a personal insult, doesn't get much credibility from
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#156
Once again, nary a link from you to support the claims you make with apparent certainty
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#158
Putin gets brownie points with his political base by giving a neener-neener to the U.S.
backscatter712
Nov 2013
#20
Also from Wikipedia: Exile can also be a self-imposed departure from one's homeland.
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
#23
She is from England. Her lawyer has advised her not to return at this time.
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
#11
What's going on in England is that Miranda (who was released after 9 hours
geek tragedy
Nov 2013
#25
The Security Service advised the police to detain Miranda based on their assessment that he may have
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
#26
Oxford dictionary says that "exile" is an archaic definition of expatriot.
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
#57
Ah. Your #22 didn't mention Sarah directly, and I had to do my best to decipher the pronoun
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#44
Surprise surprise.... Sarah Harrison and I agree with her interpretation of the facts...
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
#41
Really. Edward will not be arrested or prosecuted? Julian assanges is free to travel to the
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
#46
What is it with people who glean only the most advantagous part of a definition and think we are too
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
#58
Well, Snowden has said since June he's a victim of persecution, but the facts suggest otherwise
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#66
Statelessness is governed by the 1961 convention, which nowhere regards a valid passport
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#122
He defined his statelessness using international standards. Which I provided to you.
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
#125
You merely provided a link to a Wikipedia article, which traces back to a record
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#140
Yes dear, I know the difference. He is being persecuted with the prospect of prosecution.
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
#52
What the fuck are you going on about? I understand the difference between the two and I used them
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
#54
Clearly, I do. Snowden is being persecuted for escaping probable prosecution.
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
#106
Clearly, you don't. If that fit, any criminal fleeing prosecution could claim it. nt
stevenleser
Nov 2013
#112
Meh. Periods are irritating little buggers. One ought to leave them out unless they're necessary
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#143
HUGE K&R Powerful and important statement that needs to be seen by everyone.
woo me with science
Nov 2013
#79
To fly to a foreign country in order to reside there to escape persecution
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
#92
There is no such thing as an extradition treaty for the purpose of allowing a
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
#120
Keep beating that horse. Others who work with wikileaks and Snowden have taken
Luminous Animal
Nov 2013
#131
Im sure they will support her especially after the revelations the NSA taps Merkel's phone
davidn3600
Nov 2013
#132