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kcr

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141. The statements verbatim aren't, but the info is.

Sat Nov 9, 2013, 12:09 AM

Nov 2013

He didn't feed his kid. That info is in the article. But do you know what's also not in the article? Whether or not the other side's actual grievance is whether or not he took the kid to McDonald's. That's his interpretation.

Yes. Kids need to learn not to get their way by throwing tantrums. Duh. Is there absolutely only one way to do it? No. If you are in a contentious battle situation, leaving the kid a little hungry probably isn't wise. It might actually be the very last thing you want to do. Absolute last resort. They will be very cranky, to say the least. It's probably a better tactic reserved for parents who are co-parenting together. When you know the other parent isn't going to use it against you. And certainly if you're going to to use that tact ice? You should actually physically offer them an alternative food.

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Dad 'wholly' incapable of caring for 4-year-old son because he refused to take kid to McDonald's [View all] alp227 Nov 2013 OP

I support this father whole-heartedly�.NO CHILD NEEDS to go to mcdonalds.. Tikki Nov 2013 #1

Well, there's the rub kcr Nov 2013 #3

He did eat�his mother took him to mcdonalds.. Tikki Nov 2013 #10

But he didn't send him back with a sack full of nutritious foods kcr Nov 2013 #13

Hopefully, lesson learned�this child obviously needs his father.. Tikki Nov 2013 #16

I don't think his intentions were bad kcr Nov 2013 #18

I think he was being punished for not giving into the child. Yes, a divorce situation.. Tikki Nov 2013 #26

Where did I claim anyone should have given him McDonalds? kcr Nov 2013 #46

Both parents need to go into mediation and discuss parameters. Tikki Nov 2013 #49

"not better than nothing" Silent3 Nov 2013 #76

+1 n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #97

Did you not see the sentence where the father gave the kid a choice SheilaT Nov 2013 #52

Yes. So? kcr Nov 2013 #53

No. enlightenment Nov 2013 #60

Okay fine, do it at home kcr Nov 2013 #61

I think we're talking apples and oranges enlightenment Nov 2013 #66

If the kid continues to eat at McGrease He will have a photo future warrant46 Nov 2013 #94

The dad offered to take him somewhere else. The kid refused. stevenleser Nov 2013 #19

The headline is doing the spinning kcr Nov 2013 #22

Sorry, that is B.S. What is acceptable in a non-divorce situation should apply stevenleser Nov 2013 #44

I'm sorry kcr Nov 2013 #45

I'm not talking perfect world, I'm talking what happens 99.9999% of the time. stevenleser Nov 2013 #54

Well yes, but in custody battles it's not. kcr Nov 2013 #56

Which is exactly why I focused the problem on how things get spun in custody battles. stevenleser Nov 2013 #64

I think the problem, at least when discussing it, is the perception kcr Nov 2013 #71

I believe Solomon had the, or at least a, fix for that particular problem Fumesucker Nov 2013 #140

Cutting the cheeseburger in half? kcr Nov 2013 #144

I prefer to think of it as dividing the assets n/t Fumesucker Nov 2013 #165

Then you have not Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #100

Sorry kcr Nov 2013 #103

So your real life is more valid than mine. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #109

Well, why is your real life more valid than mine? kcr Nov 2013 #112

If you want to visit the suspension notice and follow-up Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #120

If it's sending me actual personal info on other people, no kcr Nov 2013 #121

They are links to documents available on the internet, Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #135

And your offer doesn't change my point. kcr Nov 2013 #142

"No one ever offers real evidence that these ridiculous things happen." Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #146

How does your one case prove my point? kcr Nov 2013 #149

One of your points was that no one offers to provide evidence Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #152

Well good for you. kcr Nov 2013 #153

Are these people "somebody" up there, because how does one parent have enough clout to get Hestia Nov 2013 #122

He is a former corporate attorney. Not sure how prominent. stevenleser Nov 2013 #125

Such Bullshit dballance Nov 2013 #87

Okay, fine. kcr Nov 2013 #91

Because he gave the kid two options already dballance Nov 2013 #128

I don't think asking actually constitutes giving an option kcr Nov 2013 #129

Perhaps father was trying to be a good parent and this isn�t a case of not feeding a child left is right Nov 2013 #164

I think that's exactly what happened kcr Nov 2013 #168

That's how I was raised. 2naSalit Nov 2013 #115

some of us were spanked too. Doesn't mean we should excuse it now. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #143

Have you ever tried to feed a toddler? Barack_America Nov 2013 #155

I have raised two children, so yes I know how difficult it can be to get them to eat. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #169

Gues we'll have to 2naSalit Nov 2013 #163

He offered the child another meal. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #96

He didn't offer it. He merely asked. kcr Nov 2013 #98

As several other posters have pointed out, Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #105

They are when you're a parent in a custodial battle. kcr Nov 2013 #107

Point to that quote in the article, please. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #111

what am I exaggerating? kcr Nov 2013 #114

Here's a couple. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #117

Not in the article? kcr Nov 2013 #119

Neither of those two statements Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #137

The statements verbatim aren't, but the info is. kcr Nov 2013 #141

No, the info is not. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #145

But he didn't! kcr Nov 2013 #148

Well you actually have been saying it was unacceptable. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #150

No. I never said it was unacceptable. kcr Nov 2013 #151

. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #154

Really. kcr Nov 2013 #156

And nice cherry picking kcr Nov 2013 #157

I was respondig to your statment that you never said it was unacceptable. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #158

And I didn't kcr Nov 2013 #159

wrong spot kcr Nov 2013 #113

And while we're at it kcr Nov 2013 #108

The point isn't what food he offered. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #116

It is if he's going to claim they're deeming him unfit kcr Nov 2013 #118

The Boy did not get to eat that night and later died. BlueJazz Nov 2013 #102

Okay. Fine. kcr Nov 2013 #106

I was being sarcasic with all the other posts. BlueJazz Nov 2013 #127

Sorry. It's hard to tell. kcr Nov 2013 #131

so you want to treat a child like a dog dlwickham Nov 2013 #17

Actually I hope your not a parent FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #79

the child handmade34 Nov 2013 #2

He didn't give into a temper tantrum gollygee Nov 2013 #4

+1 Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #7

He didn't feed his child. I think that's the point of contention... randome Nov 2013 #9

"You can eat McD's or nothing" gollygee Nov 2013 #11

He could have taken the child to another restaurant. He didn't. kcr Nov 2013 #14

He said the option of another restaurant was there gollygee Nov 2013 #21

The option was there. The father should have taken it. kcr Nov 2013 #24

I think it would have been wisest to go to another restaurant gollygee Nov 2013 #29

I think if he'd done that kcr Nov 2013 #31

People get stuck in either/or mindsets gollygee Nov 2013 #33

To be clear, I don't think so either. kcr Nov 2013 #41

You never starve a 4 year old child. You never give them that kind of choice. randome Nov 2013 #15

The child could have gone to another restaurant gollygee Nov 2013 #20

That's a terrible view of parenting, IMO. A 4 year old who misses a meal is starving. randome Nov 2013 #25

Really. Who's the parent here? kcr Nov 2013 #27

I have a 4-year-old gollygee Nov 2013 #30

LOL, "A 4 year old who misses a meal is starving" snooper2 Nov 2013 #51

Yes, I raised 2 daughters. You do not let your child miss a meal. randome Nov 2013 #62

So what do you recommend if missing any single meal is supposedly such a calamity? Silent3 Nov 2013 #67

Good point. If the kid refuses to eat, that's a different matter. randome Nov 2013 #72

I understood it was the child who refused to eat. Kaleva Nov 2013 #78

The father did offer a different restaurant as well. Silent3 Nov 2013 #80

An empty tummy is unpleasant for a night. alphafemale Nov 2013 #138

That's hilarious. jeff47 Nov 2013 #70

Well, none of us knows this kid's physical requirements. randome Nov 2013 #73

The kids physical requirements are either they can miss a meal jeff47 Nov 2013 #95

You can't force a 4 year old to eat if they don't want to arikara Nov 2013 #86

Yep. The other side isn't commenting kcr Nov 2013 #12

His child refused to eat anything but McDonalds? NoOneMan Nov 2013 #37

No. Go home. Give the kid a banana. A piece of bread. Anything. randome Nov 2013 #75

My kid's temper tantrums were met with absolute refusal to do/buy Nay Nov 2013 #47

Giving into a temper tantrum is the worst thing you can do. alphafemale Nov 2013 #139

I wonder if the mother and psychologist are friends or share mutual friends... penultimate Nov 2013 #5

There MUST be more going on here than declining to go to McDonalds. Shrike47 Nov 2013 #6

There is, there is a divorce and custody... n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #32

Certainly there is. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #59

This sounds like my life Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #8

I guess I'm wholly incapable for caring for my children... sarisataka Nov 2013 #23

This sounds like a setup. Say yes and you're unfit because you feed your kid junk. Say no and... JVS Nov 2013 #28

Sounds like the child comes by the stubborn honestly. IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #34

The kid learned that temper tantrums work B2G Nov 2013 #35

All the posts saying the father... Wait Wut Nov 2013 #36

But at least he would have tried. kcr Nov 2013 #48

Exactly. So well said I have nothing to add! stevenleser Nov 2013 #55

the dad made a stupid choice that would have been praised by most people 50 years ago yurbud Nov 2013 #38

when I was 4 years old, I ate what was on the table - restaurants not an option. ConcernedCanuk Nov 2013 #39

I don't think the story is the man, wife or child, it's the shrink hughee99 Nov 2013 #40

Is Mom paying the shrink? bklyncowgirl Nov 2013 #82

I gotta be honest both my parents used to make dinner and put it in front of me say this is dinner Arcanetrance Nov 2013 #42

Exactly. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #74

I don't believe this. Nine Nov 2013 #43

All ya gotta know is "custody battle" which turns parenting into a political campaign of smears and stevenleser Nov 2013 #65

Agreed. Mom and shrink both sound like assholes with an agenda, and Dad Nay Nov 2013 #166

How did I know that that the words "custody battle" would be involved? JHB Nov 2013 #50

Why would ANY parent give a 4-year-old a CHOICE? That's insane. nt valerief Nov 2013 #57

I give my 4 your old a choice all the time. hugo_from_TN Nov 2013 #69

Exactly!!! pipi_k Nov 2013 #89

perfect answer! Scout Nov 2013 #90

^^^THIS^^^ TorchTheWitch Nov 2013 #93

+1. We started doing this as soon as my kid had the ability to indicate a preference. winter is coming Nov 2013 #161

That's brilliant! nt IronLionZion Nov 2013 #167

There's quite a bit of research on that Nevernose Nov 2013 #110

Fast food aside, if you give in to temper tantrums you will get more of them. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #58

If that's the case, that shrink would have found my parents incapable of caring for me Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #63

If you're going to give a kid pipi_k Nov 2013 #68

He did not offer the child a choice between McDs and hunger. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #104

Stories like this make me happy to be childless. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #77

+1 Silent3 Nov 2013 #81

Kid sounds like a spoiled brat to me. bklyncowgirl Nov 2013 #83

Thing is... pipi_k Nov 2013 #88

The father offered to take the kid somewhere else--the kid refused--McDonalds or nothing. bklyncowgirl Nov 2013 #99

The article is so simplistic that it's pointless to think we know what happened. nolabear Nov 2013 #84

I agree with the father. Frustratedlady Nov 2013 #85

Our family was vegetarian: me, Dad and son. No meat and all was well. Until soccer and after-game libdem4life Nov 2013 #92

No, actually, I'd say that makes him an excellent father. Arkana Nov 2013 #101

The child is a spoiled brat LittleBlue Nov 2013 #123

Assuming the father's version of the story is true... ljm2002 Nov 2013 #124

I support the father for 2 reasons. appleannie1 Nov 2013 #126

Pardon me for butting in, because sometimes you know I come up with ideas that are just too crazy... derby378 Nov 2013 #130

Assuming that this story is being reported accurately (which is not always the case, of course) LeftishBrit Nov 2013 #132

Why do I think there is MORE to this story? SoCalDem Nov 2013 #133

Because of course there is Egnever Nov 2013 #147

LOL. When my kid was a young toddler (as in <2), we ordered a Caesar salad winter is coming Nov 2013 #162

I don't know any parent that thinks giving in to temper tantrums is good parenting Taitertots Nov 2013 #134

exactly Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #136

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