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CincyDem

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2. As long as the "My Way or the Highway" far right holds any leadership positions...

Sat Nov 9, 2013, 10:56 AM

Nov 2013

...they will create sufficient fragmentation to ensure even a reasonably cohesive left will prevail.

They're getting so far out on the fringe that they can't execute the traditionally successful primary to general transition. Primary to the base and then tack to the center. Even Mitt was to far right but the time primaries were over and his primary supporters never understood that winning office required that they give him some slack.

The thing that worries me is that Cruz is in fact playing a role here for Christie to make Christie look like a moderate. The far right can stay home as long as they want if the undecided center sees Christie as a "reasonable guy who ain't that bad" by comparision.

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Last night I saw why the GOP will lose again in '16 [View all] 7962 Nov 2013 OP

No one on the right seems to be mentioning Jeb. It's early days but Jeb will be there with monmouth3 Nov 2013 #1

It's a nice thought, but in the end... M.G. Nov 2013 #5

According to the polls, several million GOP voters stayed home in 12 7962 Nov 2013 #13

I have a Christian Friend who voted for McCain in 08, & Obama in 12 Heather MC Nov 2013 #25

I thought he was a Muslim. demosincebirth Nov 2013 #51

Fortunately she never believed that Heather MC Nov 2013 #52

I know several super conservative fundamental Christians who believe that the Mormon faith is ... spin Nov 2013 #56

Yep, there you have it. Again, most here WILL vote for Hillary if she's the candidate. 7962 Nov 2013 #57

Fewer people voted in '12 M.G. Nov 2013 #58

Yes, I believe you're right. That would explain why Corporate Media is on full attack BlueCaliDem Nov 2013 #8

I don't know, even Jeb's mom said we've had enough Bushes! 7962 Nov 2013 #10

Odd because I am hearing more and more the name Jeb 4dsc Nov 2013 #37

That is what I'm saying. I think he's waiting until the amateurs are out of the way...LOL.. monmouth3 Nov 2013 #43

Yep... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #48

I would think the Bush name is still mud. gopiscrap Nov 2013 #54

The only difference betweeh "bush" and "shit" is "it", so if you think Jeb is it for 2016 . . . hatrack Nov 2013 #72

well, Jeb has unfortunately got the Bush name and that brand ain't so good... CTyankee Nov 2013 #55

Jeb may actually be the better of the 2 Bush's (GHWB & GWB) but I don't think the Country is Fla Dem Nov 2013 #67

As long as the "My Way or the Highway" far right holds any leadership positions... CincyDem Nov 2013 #2

Making Christie look like a moderate makes sense to me. QuestForSense Nov 2013 #34

I don't even think Christie will get the nomination Shankapotomus Nov 2013 #3

I don't think Christie could survive an actual arthritisR_US Nov 2013 #4

Just how many far-right assholes are out there anyway... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #6

You might be right, but Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #7

Exactly. They won't stay home when there is a Democrat to froth at the mouth about BlueStreak Nov 2013 #12

I agree. Hillary-hate among RWers will bring them out in droves. Does Nay Nov 2013 #28

Until we can break up this two-party oligopoly BlueStreak Nov 2013 #40

They WILL rally around him and only Hill can beat him Cosmocat Nov 2013 #27

+100 truebluegreen Nov 2013 #42

When the fringe becomes the 2nd base...If the GOP picks Christie, NightWatcher Nov 2013 #9

I agree. Another Perot scenario. 7962 Nov 2013 #11

Hillary's campaign director could be Socks the cat NightWatcher Nov 2013 #20

Maybe *Tally could be her campaign director. Beacool Nov 2013 #62

I don't think Christie could survive the primaries Brainstormy Nov 2013 #14

I think it's a given that the President elected in 2016 will be a Democrat. randome Nov 2013 #15

I wouldn't be so sure, nothing is a given in politics. Beacool Nov 2013 #17

I'm not advocating complacency but there comes a point where triage is needed. randome Nov 2013 #18

I sure as hell wouldn't bet the rent money on that. I think "teh crazy" has a Nay Nov 2013 #31

They can only cheat at the margins, though. Admittedly, that's been enough up to now. randome Nov 2013 #33

True, but as the Bush/Gore contest showed, they only have to cheat at Nay Nov 2013 #35

I will support the dem candidate over any repub n2doc Nov 2013 #16

The republicans will come together and support wilsonbooks Nov 2013 #19

/\/\/\/\ yes/\/\/\/\ dembotoz Nov 2013 #21

Hold your nose and spend some time on the repub sites; 7962 Nov 2013 #59

Yep gollygee Nov 2013 #70

As of this week Christie is the Republican to beat, but he may end up like Giuliani. Beacool Nov 2013 #22

Three years? Heck three months...even three weeks skepticscott Nov 2013 #50

REpublicans will vote for whoever they nominate just as dems will vote for abelenkpe Nov 2013 #23

and far too many don't vote at all. That's what has to change. mountain grammy Nov 2013 #24

24 GOP Senate seats up for grabs in 2016. It's over. Faygo Kid Nov 2013 #26

^^^This^^^ fredamae Nov 2013 #29

"Now? Silence-even when I ask them." BumRushDaShow Nov 2013 #38

I am aware of the DOJ's actions fredamae Nov 2013 #45

+1 uponit7771 Nov 2013 #65

Don't assume they won't turn out. Gore1FL Nov 2013 #30

It's way too early to assume anything. HappyMe Nov 2013 #32

They aren't going to run Christi.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #36

Let me an a cautionary note. s-cubed Nov 2013 #39

Don't be fooled. Christie is a hard right conservative. He is NOT a moderate. totodeinhere Nov 2013 #41

That ploy worked -- he just won re-election. QuestForSense Nov 2013 #47

The Tea Party would rather lose than compromise their ultraconservative values... cynatnite Nov 2013 #44

+10000!! 7962 Nov 2013 #60

Or the commenters were lying Prophet 451 Nov 2013 #46

I don't think the GOP stay at home as much as young Dems do, historically. ancianita Nov 2013 #49

We learned a bitter lesson in 2010. It never should have happened. CTyankee Nov 2013 #53

One reason they might not lose Doctor_J Nov 2013 #61

I'm surprised it took 61 posts for that one. 7962 Nov 2013 #63

Waiting for the Repugs to self-destruct might work. A better plan would be ... Scuba Nov 2013 #64

They lie workinclasszero Nov 2013 #66

Don't be so smug. Our side must work to register more voters and GOTV at election bluestate10 Nov 2013 #68

I still see Christie as the nominee in 2016 BlueEye Nov 2013 #69

Pretty much my point. These tea party folks are hard headed. A LOT will NOT vote for him. 7962 Nov 2013 #71