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JoeyT

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12. I wish they'd go on the offensive much more often,

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 09:39 AM

Nov 2013

but I'm not sure how they can on this issue. The only way would be to point out that the policies getting canceled are largely the kind of insurance that's great until you actually try to use it.

Attacking the insurance companies and pointing out how awful they are isn't going to work because "Insurance companies are terrible immoral monsters that would kill you for a nickel." is a bad way to go when the followup sentence is "And we've irrevocably chained every last one of you and every one of you that shall ever be to them.".

The issue I really wanted to see them start hammering on was all the fits about healthcare.gov. How hard is it to say something to the effect of "Well, we're sorry for the delays and issues, but we didn't expect it to be as wildly popular as it is. Sometimes it seems like the entire country is trying to sign up at once. So much for the American people not wanting it."

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Why aren't Dems and Progressives going on OFFENSE on the INSURANCE COMPANIES for not complying? [View all] RBInMaine Nov 2013 OP

OH Kick fuckity kick kick kick kick!!! annabanana Nov 2013 #1

If we had single payer we wouldn't have to worry about these SHITTY STUPID INSURANCE COMPANIES. RBInMaine Nov 2013 #2

I agree RBInMaine - TBF Nov 2013 #3

Tricare is a great model because due to the ACA it now expanded to young adults Blaukraut Nov 2013 #29

I know I was covered in college TBF Nov 2013 #38

The policies only get grandfathered if they did not change Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #4

My take is your are closer to reality in this case than the OP. pangaia Nov 2013 #16

I agree a caveat should have been stated, and it should have been this: RBInMaine Nov 2013 #17

"'...Our goal is to not just make healthcare more affordable, but also BETTER.'" Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #35

Sorry, but you have stated some BS. People certainly want better plans, decent coverage, and not RBInMaine Nov 2013 #44

I never came close to saying people want crappy insurance policies Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #49

I think the effed up rollout has everyone hiding their heads. Walk away Nov 2013 #5

I've been thinking the same thing as well AndyA Nov 2013 #6

I've been saying that from the git-go. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #7

People bought shit policies because that is what they could afford... boston bean Nov 2013 #8

THE PROBLEM IS THE FUCKING PRIVATE INSURANCE SYSTEM ! IT SUCKS ! RBInMaine Nov 2013 #18

I can't tell if you are emphatically agreeing with me or if you are boston bean Nov 2013 #21

I agree the insurance company system sucks and is really the root of all the problems we have ever RBInMaine Nov 2013 #23

And there is the real problem that I see... christx30 Nov 2013 #25

"Bunch of stuff you don't want"? BULLSHIT. They DID want it, but it wasn't offered or they RBInMaine Nov 2013 #26

So a 68 year old retired couple christx30 Nov 2013 #28

A 68-year old retired couple would be on Medicare... Chan790 Nov 2013 #31

Just think about how FULL OF HOLES your argument is: RBInMaine Nov 2013 #47

No kidding. 99Forever Nov 2013 #9

Last time liberals tried to stand up to the Insurance Companies we were told Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #10

our party logo should be a sniveling chicken instead of a donkey Doctor_J Nov 2013 #11

I wish they'd go on the offensive much more often, JoeyT Nov 2013 #12

almost like they are republican owned insurance companies & President O tries to get along friendly. Sunlei Nov 2013 #13

Inadequate control and oversight ramapo Nov 2013 #14

That's the problem with the individual mandate to buy for profit products Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #15

The point of the OP is that the WHOLE story is not being told, and it is just fine to blame the RBInMaine Nov 2013 #20

It does no good to beat them up to try to change their behavior. Loudly Nov 2013 #19

Maybe a little of this Lifelong Dem Nov 2013 #22

I keep asking that question; why don't they ask insurance companies? Justice Nov 2013 #24

Because too many of them would rather bash the Prexy and say "See? We were right and he was wrong." riqster Nov 2013 #27

We can't trust insurers...then why are we FORCED to do business with them???? nt Romulox Nov 2013 #34

we bashed the insurance companies before aca Doctor_J Nov 2013 #48

Could It Be That They Don't Want To Piss The Insurance Companies Off Because..... global1 Nov 2013 #30

I understand your point, and you could be right. But as far as depending on boomersense Nov 2013 #32

The President is FORCING us to do business with these bad actors. How can he criticize? nt Romulox Nov 2013 #33

Were the legally required to comply? No. cthulu2016 Nov 2013 #36

Progressives? We're only here because we have no alternartive? L0oniX Nov 2013 #37

Trivia Question Savannahmann Nov 2013 #39

Blame for not complying? You would think non - compliance would have penalties TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #40

That is the the ACA in a nutshell RC Nov 2013 #42

Insurers do nothing of any value, other than shuffle paper and take a big cut of the proceeds. libdem4life Nov 2013 #41

Insurers remove their cut of free money. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #43

Yes, just more paper pushing...bank deposits and spreadsheets and all. Missed that boat, to be sure. libdem4life Nov 2013 #45

It is hard to publicly criticize the Industry... bvar22 Nov 2013 #46