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cthulu2016

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Sun Nov 10, 2013, 12:10 PM Nov 2013

"Rare" was a political line designed to appeal to choice-conflicted voters... [View all]

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Bill Clinton's famous, "abortion should be safe, legal and rare," was formulated to appeal to mildly anti-choice voters—people who are not entirely comfortable with choice but afraid that prohibition would be unfair or unjust in some cases. The reason it was effective in appealing to those mildly anti-choice voters is that it is mildly anti-choice.

You can substitute "grudgingly pro-choice" if you prefer... or even, "willing to be choice agnostic." As a very pro-choice person, I view choice agnosticism as effectively mildly anti-choice, but if one wants to posit a theoretical neutral stance so be it.

When Obama said that he is pro-choice because he "trusts" women to take the decision seriously it was also an appeal to mildly anti-choice voters. Again, it was a mildly anti-choice sentiment.

These things are intentionally mildly anti-choice lines, so it makes no sense to try to unpack them as something other than what they were designed to be.


Both presume that when a woman exercises her option to terminate a pregnancy there is potentially something morally objectionable going on, but it can sometimes be excused by circumstance and, being borderline, is best left up to the woman.

Essentially that abortion is like war... a bad thing that is sometimes necessary and thus justifiable.

I disagree with that stance, but those lines were not crafted to appeal to me.

The stance views regulation of abortion a borderline issue and thus abets or encourages "sensible" regulation. It is, however, not literally anti-choice up front. It is also not at all "pro life," in what that term means politically... it is not really a coherent political view either way.

The most effective appeals to American "middle" voters are often internally conflicted in some way because the voters themselves are internally conflicted in some way and/or want to have both sides of what they find to be a difficult issue.

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And to win elections, you need the votes of the "mildly anti-choice" voters. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #1
I think it was politically astute cthulu2016 Nov 2013 #2
It's lazy and opportunistic. Half the eligible voters don't vote leftstreet Nov 2013 #5
Yes, I agree that "rare" was added to assure anti-choicers that we pro-choicers aren't CTyankee Nov 2013 #3
But Democratic candidates already have the pro-choice vote. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #6
See, I think the "rare" thing is out of date. The centrists are more pro-choice nowadays. CTyankee Nov 2013 #19
Disagree. Myrina Nov 2013 #4
Exactly. "Rare" in this context means that education and contraception are widespread and working. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #7
What it *meant* was "vote for me" cthulu2016 Nov 2013 #10
Perhaps, but "rare" in this context means education and contraception are widespread and working cleanhippie Nov 2013 #29
Excellent explanation dragonlady Nov 2013 #16
Ideologues with a bone. Tip off- using the word "mildly" as a pejorative. KittyWampus Nov 2013 #8
You might want to re-think 'pejorative' cthulu2016 Nov 2013 #9
You forgot, that the term rare was applied after the numbers were released Savannahmann Nov 2013 #11
It is a phrase that recognizes that the vast majority of women as well as men at least have Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #12
Many people feel ambivalent about abortion AND support choice. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #13
There are some women who do not feel it is a difficult choice for themselves. CTyankee Nov 2013 #20
I think there is another aspect to this that we should think about. CTyankee Nov 2013 #26
"Rare" was a term used to humanize the pro-choice movement LittleBlue Nov 2013 #14
The phrase and soft support have harmed the matter of abortion rights. The national party removed it PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #15
Because "safe, legal and abundant" Seeking Serenity Nov 2013 #17
Or... safe and legal. How about we leave the frequency a medical issue, not a political one? PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #18
Frequency is a sociocultural issues tied into political efforts like sex education. Kurska Nov 2013 #22
Then literally state that unplanned/unwanted pregnancies should be rare. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #23
I said that verbatim down thread. Kurska Nov 2013 #24
I mean the collective 'you'. The Democratic Party dropped the harmful "rare" portion years ago. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #25
I completely support abortion rights, but you know what abortion makes me uncomfortable. Kurska Nov 2013 #27
I wish you could separate your concerns from being ABOUT abortion. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #28
Abortion should be rare, because unwanted pregnancies should be rare. Kurska Nov 2013 #21
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