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A HERETIC I AM

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88. I don't think you are that far from the mark.

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 01:26 PM

Nov 2013

It is my understanding that the day after the election, every new President is flown to Washington where the REAL inauguration takes place - his taking of the oath for his security clearance.

Once Obama, and for that matter every new President since, as you say, Kennedy at least, is the "President Elect" it becomes necessary for him to be able to be briefed on National Security issues.

I am rather convinced that during this process he is told something to the effect;

"Look, there are some things you can do and change and there are things you can't do and change. You and your family get to live in a really nice museum in the heart of the city staffed 24/7 by people who will help you do your job to the tiniest degree, including chefs, butlers, planners and groundskeepers. You will have access to a fleet of private helicopters and the nicest executive jets in the world that will be available to take you just about anywhere you wish. You can even start wars if you want and kill people with no threat of prosecution.

What you can't do is change the monetary system and you can't make things too good for poor people. The last guys that tried that were killed in very public ways. Don't forget that."

I am sure that this message or a version of it is made VERY clear to every new president.

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