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NoOneMan

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43. Exactly.

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 10:05 PM

Nov 2013

Don't sign it and you are a terrible, self-absorbed, jealous Democrat. Sign it and it will be systematically used in a campaign to undermine you as a potential candidate, by creating a lie about your endorsement (see the very first reply to this thread!).

I have to wonder, who started this secret letter? What is the real purpose of it (encouragement, or to undermine other potential women candidates)? Its existence is a mere rumor from a single quote, so we don't know the contents of how all these women "encouraged" Hillary. Yet, the secret is publicly broadcasted and used in a lie, repeatedly, that tries to say Warren is bowing out and endorsing her. The thing reeks.

I can't help but be suspicious because whenever there is a Warren for President mention, almost immediately this lie is crafted and thrown out there to convince people to forget about Warren and settle for Hillary the Inevitable.

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Hillary's Nightmare? A Democratic Party That Realizes Its Soul Lies With Elizabeth Warren. [View all] kpete Nov 2013 OP

I support Elizabeth Warren...in her support of Hillary Clinton brooklynite Nov 2013 #1

“All of the Senate Democratic women have written her a letter encouraging her to run,” - Hagen NoOneMan Nov 2013 #6

Explain what "Class" has to do with it? brooklynite Nov 2013 #10

Its classy to encourage your allies to run. NoOneMan Nov 2013 #11

Who did Obama encourage to run in 2008? brooklynite Nov 2013 #13

I don't know. This was a secret letter afterall NoOneMan Nov 2013 #15

The lines between which you read are... Agschmid Nov 2013 #16

This entire lie is taking liberties with the truth NoOneMan Nov 2013 #19

It's an interesting preview of the campaign to come. n/t winter is coming Nov 2013 #61

Secret letter? I read about the letter the female senators sent in the news about a week ago. Tx4obama Nov 2013 #71

"In Secret Letter, Senate Democratic Women Rally Behind Hillary Clinton" NoOneMan Nov 2013 #74

+1 dlwickham Nov 2013 #37

How much more right can a Democrat be than Hillary? mattclearing Nov 2013 #83

so being a moderate is equal to being right wing? dlwickham Nov 2013 #99

Think you may have missed something here. mattclearing Nov 2013 #167

Thank you..n/t whathehell Nov 2013 #126

"The answer is NONE." Maedhros Nov 2013 #160

That's crap. The left is looking for a progressive to run. Someone that will fight the rhett o rick Nov 2013 #158

This is a very uninformed post. Maedhros Nov 2013 #159

Bingo. n/t Beausoir Nov 2013 #92

This article is divisive tripe from the right wing. Anyone buying it is either naive or MADem Nov 2013 #153

Sad billhicks76 Nov 2013 #40

+10 n/t whathehell Nov 2013 #127

Well said Bill and welcome Hestia Nov 2013 #132

Good one, brooklynite! calimary Nov 2013 #108

If Sen. Warren were somehow to be nominated, would you vote for her in the GE? nt Zorra Nov 2013 #114

Of course... brooklynite Nov 2013 #116

Hillary has no nightmare. She is as inevitable as in 2008 NoOneMan Nov 2013 #2

Okay then, she's a recurring nightmare. cui bono Nov 2013 #36

Lol billhicks76 Nov 2013 #58

There is no way this inevitable candidate will lose to a freshman congress person! NoOneMan Nov 2013 #59

It's never happened before. Don't know why you're laughing. closeupready Nov 2013 #72

The best thing about "inevitable 2008" posts. joshcryer Nov 2013 #77

"Inevitable" candidates have a way of becoming distinctly "evitable". Divernan Nov 2013 #82

What a nightmare that could be though hfojvt Nov 2013 #156

Except Warren supports Hillary. scheming daemons Nov 2013 #3

She endorsed her publicly for president in 2016?!?! NoOneMan Nov 2013 #7

She will encourage none, in all likelihood. Gore1FL Nov 2013 #23

I can't imagine Warren, or anyone, not signing and trying to 'splain that. Whisp Nov 2013 #24

Exactly. NoOneMan Nov 2013 #43

Good point. HappyMe Nov 2013 #112

Don't sign it and you're the first target of the Hillary Machine. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #110

and the media would Frenzy about dat! Whisp Nov 2013 #117

Yep. A bit of a stretchy-poo and it's already shown up twice in this thread. pa28 Nov 2013 #35

The first and third reply. Interesting how lies spread themselves NoOneMan Nov 2013 #42

But if the Democratic grassroots prefers Warren, surely Hillary will have the best interests JDPriestly Nov 2013 #51

She would get her support from Wall Street and her base, the Top 6% bvar22 Nov 2013 #124

Clip worth watching. Thanks. SomeGuyInEagan Nov 2013 #130

This clip just makes me sad. PoliticalPothead Nov 2013 #151

There is only one way to do that, bvar22 Nov 2013 #162

Correct! And she's not running, either: freshwest Nov 2013 #68

Tis past due for a populism movement/platform. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2013 #4

+1000. Candidates who can credibly run on populist platforms are going to be popular with voters winter is coming Nov 2013 #46

Like Obama,Clinton may campaign as a populist, but post election will serve big $$$ donors. Divernan Nov 2013 #85

"to be that populist on finance issues.” dixiegrrrrl Nov 2013 #87

Progressives need to stand up RIGHT NOW and "NO!", We Will Not Accept Less! NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #5

+ 1! n/t wildbilln864 Nov 2013 #8

+111111111111111111111111 n/t NRaleighLiberal Nov 2013 #9

+8,749 Scuba Nov 2013 #17

+plus+ Whisp Nov 2013 #25

Standing Up with you! bigwillq Nov 2013 #26

I'm standing up RIGHT NOW for NYC_SKP for President in 2016!!! Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #30

Wah, come here ya big doh! NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #31

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #34

Amen! dflprincess Nov 2013 #52

+1 Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #98

+++++++++++++ L0oniX Nov 2013 #104

To the moon, NYC_SKP! ReRe Nov 2013 #111

I could not agree more... BrainDrain Nov 2013 #119

Good Luck to us all. bvar22 Nov 2013 #163

+1 davidpdx Nov 2013 #166

If Ms. Warren would like my vote, she can have it. Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #12

I'm with you there. n/t JimDandy Nov 2013 #14

Me too. woofless Nov 2013 #22

K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #18

The Democratic soul may lie with Elizabeth Warren Cirque du So-What Nov 2013 #20

This thread is stirring up shit............ TheDebbieDee Nov 2013 #21

I would embrace Warren in 2016 rosesaylavee Nov 2013 #27

word. nt. NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #29

I love Elizabeth Warren. liberalmuse Nov 2013 #28

In this environment, not supporting Hillary is supporting the Tea Party coldmountain Nov 2013 #33

True. Try a permanent government shutdown if they get in office out for size if the GOP wins... freshwest Nov 2013 #65

See what the environment is in three years.. whathehell Nov 2013 #128

Sez who the soul of the Democratic Party belongs to someone other than Hillary? IrishAyes Nov 2013 #32

Well, if you liked NAFTA, the repeal of Glass-Steagall and the Iraq war & think TPP is a good idea dflprincess Nov 2013 #53

Excellent read. Elizabeth Warren for President. Whisp Nov 2013 #38

you know, there was a member that got kicked out for posting shit. Phlem Nov 2013 #39

It seems to me that Hilliary would be the GOP's choice. zeemike Nov 2013 #47

Elizabeth Warren is prepared to be president after a handful of months in her first elected office? Beacool Nov 2013 #76

Well perhaps that is just what we need. zeemike Nov 2013 #78

I can't imagine there is anything more to be unearthed on Hillary NoOneMan Nov 2013 #49

I can think of at least two things, off hand. Big things that didn't get much attention: Whisp Nov 2013 #103

Is this the same person who was predicting a Clinton/Obama dynasty? Revanchist Nov 2013 #50

That was Graham davidpdx Nov 2013 #165

In a way I miss him Revanchist Nov 2013 #169

I just hope he got the help he needed davidpdx Nov 2013 #171

Excellent, informative article BeyondGeography Nov 2013 #41

Elizabeth Warren speaks for most Americans. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #44

My heart is with Warren but... JeffHead Nov 2013 #45

Elizabeth Warren/Wendy Davis 2016! Rozlee Nov 2013 #48

No reason why she shouldn't run. It would only be good for Democrats. TwilightGardener Nov 2013 #54

Not clear why this is up for discussion...Elizabeth Warren has endorsed Hillary. That's usually a libdem4life Nov 2013 #55

I would like to see her where she could do the most good. calimary Nov 2013 #107

She is an brilliant academic, has a classic presence who is not only principled, but able to libdem4life Nov 2013 #122

Warren for President 2016 bajamary Nov 2013 #56

Transpacific Partnership. Chained CPI, Keystone Pipeline stuffmatters Nov 2013 #57

UR so right! Economic issues are ground zero and Hilary/Bill are 1 %ers all the way. Divernan Nov 2013 #91

I'm with you 100%. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #144

As a political scientist, (OK, retired) . . FairWinds Nov 2013 #60

Never in a million damn years would I support things like this, which the Clintons are famous for: Whisp Nov 2013 #80

Welcome to DU - good to have a political scientist on board. Divernan Nov 2013 #93

+1000000000 woo me with science Nov 2013 #102

Thank you for the link and welcome to DU Hestia Nov 2013 #137

IMHO No woman, Democratic or Republican, will be elected in 2016 left is right Nov 2013 #62

If Hillery is the nominee I will give her wilsonbooks Nov 2013 #63

Happily supporting a *trickle-down" economic stimulus MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #64

I would work my tail off blue14u Nov 2013 #66

Good article Iwillnevergiveup Nov 2013 #67

Yes. And it does - the future belongs to Democrats like Warren. closeupready Nov 2013 #69

If Hillary is the nominee, she will win, for reasons I put in my own little OP a couple days ago. 7962 Nov 2013 #70

Great. They'll divide us any way they can. I say first Hillary then Elizabeth. nolabear Nov 2013 #73

With every passing year, Hilary's Big Finance ties further reduce her appeal/chances. Divernan Nov 2013 #89

Bill was defending Romney/Bain Capital... Whisp Nov 2013 #125

Good article. NealK Nov 2013 #75

I would work to get Warren elected Marrah_G Nov 2013 #79

Yes! avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #81

Their soul huh? Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #84

Or dream come true? bluedeathray Nov 2013 #86

Um, you all realize there is still an election in 2014, right? eggplant Nov 2013 #88

Warren is unelectable as President. Beausoir Nov 2013 #90

Your crystal ball is much better than mine, evidently. Laelth Nov 2013 #95

This is an excellent essay. Highly recommended. k&r n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #94

Why are we talking about "souls"? frazzled Nov 2013 #96

Well aren't you just a cheery "wet blanket" ... (sarcasm) Well written and right on. Democrats libdem4life Nov 2013 #134

I support Warren. I'll never support HRC. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #97

This thing here: Whisp Nov 2013 #100

I don't care heaven05 Nov 2013 #101

Silly DU. The next president will be one of the two that the 1% select as candidates. L0oniX Nov 2013 #105

Pretty much... NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #145

looks like the media is busy drumming up some controversy paulk Nov 2013 #106

Now that Republicans have adopted cannibalism why not also Democrats? gordianot Nov 2013 #109

I'm for the person who gets the nomination warrior1 Nov 2013 #113

Warren isn't going to run. phleshdef Nov 2013 #115

Once again.... BrainDrain Nov 2013 #118

I wonder if it is a Warren/Clinton race...who the Obama Team would work for? Whisp Nov 2013 #123

funny, I remember back in 2007 when obama beachbum bob Nov 2013 #129

HRC is a big-money/Wall Street tool. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #149

I do not see any nightmares Peacetrain Nov 2013 #120

What is the lesson of the last six years? HenryWallace Nov 2013 #121

This is bordering on the most un-intellectual argument imaginable...arguing over, trying to force libdem4life Nov 2013 #131

However, forcing another 4 or 8 years of triangulation down America's throat NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #146

Not sure what "triangulation" you are talking about, but do recall that she is a Rodham and that libdem4life Nov 2013 #152

Signed into the crazy just to Rec this post. TalkingDog Nov 2013 #133

Is Hillary Clinton Too Cozy With Wall Street? Whisp Nov 2013 #135

Problem is, she is NOT RUNNING and HAS ALREADY ENDORSED HILLARY. RBInMaine Nov 2013 #136

what endorsement? reddread Nov 2013 #142

Well, truth is Warren would be silly to express interest this far out. NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #147

There was an encouraging observation vlakitti Nov 2013 #138

If the choice is Hillary or Chris Christie, please don't choose Chris Christie bc you want Warren ZRT2209 Nov 2013 #139

If the third-way Wall St. Dems force Hillary on us, America looses anyway. NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #148

This is a very telling paragraph: Hestia Nov 2013 #140

Good grief. Why does this not surprise me: Hestia Nov 2013 #141

Bernie Sanders may be the more experienced choice seveneyes Nov 2013 #143

He or Warren would have my most ENTHUSIASTIC support. nt NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #150

K&R SlipperySlope Nov 2013 #154

I would campaign for Warren marlakay Nov 2013 #155

Even if she wanted to run, which she doesn't, I don't see how she could do more to help the libdem4life Nov 2013 #157

I yawn with respect....n/t RagAss Nov 2013 #161

recent reading of du tells me this won't be a problem. Doctor_J Nov 2013 #164

and who pulled the tiller to the right since Reagan? Whisp Nov 2013 #168

kr Norrin Radd Nov 2013 #170