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19. Well, to be fair, most American Christians don't actually practice "Christianity"....

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 11:59 PM

Nov 2013

they practice Paulianity and Peterianity.

So as far as how much Paul distorted the early religion, I would say entirely.

And you're right, the writings attributed to him are those of a class-A jackass. A woman hating dickweed.

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For anyone who actually read the Bible.... [View all] Playinghardball Nov 2013 OP

... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #1

He never said anything about abortion, either Warpy Nov 2013 #2

I think you are wrong about his addressing women about divorce. left is right Nov 2013 #56

His admonition was against a man marrying a divorced woman. Warpy Nov 2013 #59

Not to get into a big argument ovet semantics wercal Nov 2013 #3

Study up quaker bill Nov 2013 #5

Not necessarily wercal Nov 2013 #10

The profit Ezekiel very clearly condemned the city of Sodom left is right Nov 2013 #57

I hear girls are into sodomy too bigwillq Nov 2013 #7

Um SC and the OP were talking Jesus kydo Nov 2013 #8

Yes I understand the slight of words wercal Nov 2013 #11

I guess if you are one of those "Old Testament" Christians curlyred Nov 2013 #16

"Old Testament Christians"... Iggo Nov 2013 #58

By all means, yes, let's bring the OLD testament into this debate. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #22

No the intent of the OP is to say Jesus said nothing on Homosexuality. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #34

Jesus never mentioned abstinance either. RichGirl Nov 2013 #78

Jesus didn't say a lot of things that fundies believe in kydo Nov 2013 #80

Original meaning of 'sodomy' may surprise some QuestForSense Nov 2013 #9

Thank you!! But most "Christians" will have none of it.They want sodomy to be what they want it to kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #13

Paul was a class-A jackass, and I often wonder how much he distorted early Christianity. winter is coming Nov 2013 #14

Well, to be fair, most American Christians don't actually practice "Christianity".... A HERETIC I AM Nov 2013 #19

Thank you, Winter....Paul IS TRULY as much of a distorter as fox news is today. loudsue Nov 2013 #68

"Paul was a class-A jackass" LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #69

As with everything else 2naSalit Nov 2013 #29

Sodomy comes from the old testament b4 Christ Heather MC Nov 2013 #18

It's up in the Old Testament Health Manual called the Book of Leviticus jmowreader Nov 2013 #26

According to the Bible, Sodom was not destroyed because of homosexuality Revanchist Nov 2013 #30

+1 (nt) Nine Nov 2013 #76

But Jesus never said anything on it. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #32

Um, no it's not... joeybee12 Nov 2013 #84

exactly gopiscrap Nov 2013 #4

Sexual orientation (and abortion) are simply Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #6

Jesus had quite a bit to say about social justice and wealth accumulation Major Nikon Nov 2013 #17

The Conservative Bible Project u4ic Nov 2013 #50

Christianity has always been interpreted by prevailing attitudes of religionists Major Nikon Nov 2013 #62

Is there even evidence that Jesus existed as he was depicted? Rozlee Nov 2013 #12

The same could be said for Plato, Aristotle, and Alexander the Great. zeemike Nov 2013 #20

Actually you're disproving your own point. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #21

Well his contemporaries wrote about Jesus too zeemike Nov 2013 #28

Actually, neither of them were Jesus' contemporaries. Rozlee Nov 2013 #31

You say things you could not possibly know. zeemike Nov 2013 #43

No credible scholar thinks that the gospels were written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John at the time LeftyMom Nov 2013 #33

No one thinks...and that makes it so without evidence. zeemike Nov 2013 #40

Are you really that ignorant of the history of your own religion? LeftyMom Nov 2013 #41

Well it is not my religion. zeemike Nov 2013 #45

So you're a non-Christian arguing for an ahistorical literalist interpretation of the gospels? LeftyMom Nov 2013 #46

No I am a person interested in history and religion. zeemike Nov 2013 #51

Do you realize how deliciously ironic this statement of yours is? n/t ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #97

And do you realize how condescending your reply is? zeemike Nov 2013 #98

No hit and run, lol. And the substance of my response lies in the ability of ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #99

Yes I know the meaning of irony. zeemike Nov 2013 #100

You have GOT to be kidding. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #47

We know, on the other hand, a great deal about historical figures of the period. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #36

"we can be absolutely sure" zeemike Nov 2013 #48

I'm sorry, you're apparently unfamiliar with the primary sources of the period. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #53

So then we know all about it then. zeemike Nov 2013 #54

The only writings of the time that survived about Jesus? intaglio Nov 2013 #61

I have heard that all before. zeemike Nov 2013 #65

Alright, you've officially lost all credibility. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #70

And you did what all do.who want to dismiss this zeemike Nov 2013 #71

No, it's not a conspiracy, that Saint Isa story was a damn hoax. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #72

And of course history majors cannot be wrong. zeemike Nov 2013 #74

OK, so you are admitting to a closed mind intaglio Nov 2013 #75

I am admitting to no such thing. zeemike Nov 2013 #77

What have I said that is not fact? intaglio Nov 2013 #79

Well I am not making any assumptions at all. zeemike Nov 2013 #81

You have claimed proof - demonstrate it intaglio Nov 2013 #83

I have not claimed proof I have claimed evidence. zeemike Nov 2013 #85

Fine now let's go over what you ignore intaglio Nov 2013 #86

And you are just assuming it has been fabricated. zeemike Nov 2013 #87

You spend all your time lying to youtself intaglio Nov 2013 #88

Conservatism and Libertarians are not a religion too zeemike Nov 2013 #93

Your response is irrelevant and it begins with a straw man ... intaglio Nov 2013 #95

Much of your posts remind me of the Jesus Seminar (Q, etc) fadedrose Nov 2013 #92

Not looked at Funk's group intaglio Nov 2013 #94

Try reading this post.... fadedrose Nov 2013 #89

There have been lots of reasons found why Josephus might have been silent intaglio Nov 2013 #91

Fine, so we end up finding this mythical Roman document on Jesus. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #42

That is a theory not a fact. zeemike Nov 2013 #49

Yes, many heroes, kings and luminaries are made legendary more by their followers than their own Rozlee Nov 2013 #27

Some wars and forced conversions had more to do with that. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #37

That's true. Rozlee Nov 2013 #52

Alexander the Great? plenty of evidence intaglio Nov 2013 #60

Really? ROFL snooper2 Nov 2013 #64

That is because what you don't understand you ridicule. zeemike Nov 2013 #66

I Jesus made up of matter? snooper2 Nov 2013 #67

He existed, but not as depicted fadedrose Nov 2013 #90

I always assume Jesus' stance on homosexuality was contained in this- sarisataka Nov 2013 #15

Jesus didn't comment on The Gay. That was JESUS�. n/t Beartracks Nov 2013 #23

Kick. Agschmid Nov 2013 #24

Actually, Paul was a recovering supercilious patriarchal prig. raging moderate Nov 2013 #25

I thought I heard, or read somewhere that some of what Paul was attributed with writing... 47of74 Nov 2013 #96

I love much of Pauls writings but the women hating, gay hating, and sex hating stuff I can do hrmjustin Nov 2013 #35

Do you ever get the feeling that we gentiles stumbled into a giant family argument? raging moderate Nov 2013 #38

Yes it did seem like a family argument. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #39

I see your little line at the end is a quotation from one of Paul's letters. raging moderate Nov 2013 #55

I try to live the line but I fall short. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #73

Nobody fucks with The Jesus. 47of74 Nov 2013 #44

jesus did say something about homosexuals..... madrchsod Nov 2013 #63

The Jesus did say a few things about slavery, tho... SidDithers Nov 2013 #82

As my dad said eons ago, "A story book, don't take it seriously." n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #101