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In reply to the discussion: The JFK conspiracy theroy is just not allowed. [View all]FedUpWithIt All
(4,442 posts)45. Hard to ignore the profitability of the assassination and the resulting war.
I agree with Kerry that there was likely a conspiracy. I put together the following the other day... http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4010042
LBJ and the men involved with Brown & Root/Halliburton, Bell Helicopter, Ling-Temco-Vought etc.
Otherwise known as the Suite 8F Group.

The winker is a member of the S8G and, according to his wife, it was his appreciation dinner that caused Kennedy to change his plans and head down to TX earlier than he originally planned.
Emphasis my own
M: Is it correct that both Lyndon Johnson as Vice President and John F. Kennedy were here in
Houston for a testimonial-type dinner for you and your husband? Is that right?
T: Yes, it came about--a group of people--Albert had been saying he was going to retire. As amatter of fact, he had made that announcement, so President Kennedy asked him to
reconsider; that he was needed very much; and would he consent to stay on. Of course, he
was ill at that time, but he was certainly able to carry on his work. So then my husband's friends got up this dinner for him, and they asked my husband what did he think about
asking President Kennedy to come. He said, "Fine," he thought it would be a wonderful
gesture, but after all, he was so busy that he would certainly understand if he did not come.
Much to our surprise he did call my husband one day and said, "I'm coming to the dinner. I had planned to go to Texas but not at this particular time. Since your dinner is going to be then, I think I will come." Well, immediately of course word got out and then all the people began to make these plans. First, he'd go to San Antonio, then he'd come here, then he'd go to Fort Worth, then he'd go to Dallas, then he'd go to Austin. Well, it became very
involved.
Too, of course, the Secret Service had a say. All along the time my husband kept saying, "Oh, I hope nothing happens while he's here in Houston at my dinner." I remember very well when we were driving in. We had a Secret Service man in the car--
M: Was this in the motorcade?
T: Motorcade coming in that afternoon. And he would say, "Do you see anything along the
road?" And he kept looking that afternoon, I remember very well.
my husband was asked to get back on the plane--I don't know just how it did happen--but anyway, he was the one that said to President Johnson, "You can't take off until you are sworn in as President of the United States."
That's how he happened to be right there in front. (Mrs. Thomas says that her husband was the first to address Lyndon Johnson as "Mr. President."![]()
In 1964, Thomas was named Chairman of the House Democratic Caucus. His old college roommate was George Brown of Kellogg Root and Brown/Halliburton
David Harold Byrd was also a member of the s8g. He owns the Dallas Book Depository. He also is a partial owner of Ling-Temco-Vought which turned out one aircraft a day for several years during Vietnam.
Bell, another s8g member and the founder of Bell Aviation, later Bell Helicopter, benefited greatly from Vietnam and had long associations with LBJ. LBJ had helped Bell get military contracts as far back as the 1940's. Michael Paine, his wife shared a home with Marina Oswald and she was the one who suggested the Book Depository job to Lee (according to the Warren Report), worked for Bell Helicopter.
The Brown brothers, also members of the s8g. They were the founders of Brown & Root. The company was purchased by Humble Oil's Halliburton in 62.
NPR http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1569483"Nearly 40 years ago, Halliburton faced almost identical charges over its work for the U.S. government in Vietnam allegations of overcharging, sweetheart contracts from the White House and war profiteering. Back then, the company's close ties to President Johnson became a liability. "
"The story of Halliburton's ties to the White House dates back to the 1940s, when a Texas firm called Brown & Root constructed a massive dam project near Austin. The company's founders, Herman and George Brown, won the contract to build Mansfield Dam thanks to the efforts of Johnson, who was then a Texas congressman."
The other members of this group had oil ties. They were going to take a massive monetary hit (an estimated 300million a year) if Kennedy had been able to follow through with his plans to eliminate the Oil Depletion Allowance.
A damning number of links exist but this sampling shows just how much money was made off of the assassination and as a result, the Vietnam war.
~ Jack Ruby"When I mentioned about Adlai Stevenson, if he was vice president there would never have been an assassination of our beloved President Kennedy " "Well the answer is the man in office now"
~Jack Ruby"Well, you won't see me again. I tell you that a whole new form of government is going to take over the country, and I know I won't live to see you another time"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4010042
These same companies are still in the war profiteering business.
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HSCA investigator Gaeton Fonzi said the physical evidence indicates conspiracy...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#120
I remember that day...The shock and total heartbreak of it are seared in my memory.
whathehell
Nov 2013
#4
Lyndon Johnson sounded better when he talked to Cronkite, Kerry wants to blame Cuba or Russia
jakeXT
Nov 2013
#8
everyone was ducking for cover after the first shot - his boys would hide the rest
Baclava
Nov 2013
#91
That BS is a limited hangout. For decades they have been peddling the Lee Harvey Oswald
GoneFishin
Nov 2013
#79
Oliver Stone re-visited "JFK" with Amy Goodman. The entire interview is found at the link.
Ninga
Nov 2013
#14
Yep: never trust the opinion of people that make decisions for ideological reasons
cpwm17
Nov 2013
#38
He is expressing his opinion based on what he, like billions of others across the planet, not as an
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#31
And then there are the millions, possibly billions by now, who simply do not believe the
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#69
The sky IS blue, it is not a 'story'. And the official 'story' re the JFK assassination has so many
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#110
I don't doubt that Oswald was there or that he fired shots that day. What I don't
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#134
And most of us old enough to remember that day; those loosely of the same generation
maddiemom
Nov 2013
#21
Yes, and I always will have trouble with the Warren Report -- It's bullshit. n/t
whathehell
Nov 2013
#23
Rarely mentioned is that 3 members of the Warren Commission had problems with the report
dflprincess
Nov 2013
#43
According to Tip O'Neill Dave Powers and Kenneth O'Donnell both told him they heard shots from
dflprincess
Nov 2013
#105
Nothing would settle it for you. Because facts do not seem to help you people. n-t
Logical
Nov 2013
#39
You're right 'nothing' is exactly what you provided and thanks for getting my point. SOMETHING
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#40
Total bullshit on all counts. All this shit has been debunked. Lone assassin was Oswald. Closed.
RBInMaine
Nov 2013
#28
Apparently it has not been debunked. When something has been debunked the debunking
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#33
Here's audio of LBJ saying he doesn't believe in the single-bullet theory
California_here
Nov 2013
#132
It's a cold case. I watch Cold Cases sometimes and have seen 40 year old cases solved with new
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#42
Hard to ignore the profitability of the assassination and the resulting war.
FedUpWithIt All
Nov 2013
#45
Even if Ruby had never existed, there's a lot of questions about Oswald that remain.
JVS
Nov 2013
#64
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JVS
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#71
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JVS
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#92
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JVS
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#100
The problem with conspiracy theories is they collapse under their own weight.
HooptieWagon
Nov 2013
#53
Any conspiracy theory that keeps inventing additional conspiracy theories to justify the original.
HooptieWagon
Nov 2013
#85
Frankly I wouldn't be surprised at all if we found out definitively that this is Poppy Bush:
Arugula Latte
Nov 2013
#113
proves willful ignorance, coverups, lack of evidence? trace patterns, trajectories, history.
reddread
Nov 2013
#127