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haele

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99. Glad to hear 'bout the gardens

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 12:40 AM

Nov 2013

The kidlet and boyfriend are getting so strapped for cash, she finally had me take them out shopping and show her how to shop and enough cooking lessons so she can make supplemented casseroles, chili, and mac and cheese from scratch that would last more than one meal and provide enough nutrition for them all. She also just adapted a broken down tallboy dresser left by one of their old room-mates into a patio planter for lettuce and herbs.

She saw a paperback bookcase that had been adapted at City Farmer that is really nice as a compact raised planter.
The boyfriend is grudgingly behind the change in shopping and diet; he still wants to eat out all the time, but she's finally convinced him they can save close to $200 a month with what she can cook - as long as he'll eat it.

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A diet fueled by food stamps is making South Texans obese but leaving them hungry [View all] Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 OP

Canned beans, brown rice Aerows Nov 2013 #1

More than that, learning how to cook Scootaloo Nov 2013 #5

Exactly. Aerows Nov 2013 #9

So, former Crescent City citizen TexasProgresive Nov 2013 #41

On Monday, yes :) Aerows Nov 2013 #44

How Monday came to be associated with red beans and rice KamaAina Nov 2013 #140

Monday is the day off for much of NO proper Aerows Nov 2013 #142

Not if you have gluten issues... which is the next growing Fawke Em Nov 2013 #13

Beans cause gluten issues? Aerows Nov 2013 #14

No they don't nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #31

Brown rice contains is high in phytic acid which blocks nutrient absorption n/t TexasBushwhacker Nov 2013 #72

Since it is mostly present in the bran Aerows Nov 2013 #97

Beans and rice are gluten free nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #30

That is my understanding Aerows Nov 2013 #47

Beans it's another enzyme that leads to gas nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #51

I cheat with Navy beans Aerows Nov 2013 #54

It's not enzymes that causes gas from beans Major Nikon Nov 2013 #58

allergies have nothing to do with not cooking correctly. magical thyme Nov 2013 #63

Again there are levels of intolerance nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #84

Beans don't contain gluten at all Aerows Nov 2013 #98

I realize that. Wheat has gluten and the majority of our breads and many other magical thyme Nov 2013 #132

Alright Aerows Nov 2013 #133

I was initially responding to your comment about beans and allergies magical thyme Nov 2013 #137

Rye and barley also have gluten u4ic Nov 2013 #105

I can, but boy they are expensive!!!! nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #107

I changed my whole way of eating u4ic Nov 2013 #115

Well, I need to see what I can find nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #117

I'm honestly baffled by the gluten thing Scootaloo Nov 2013 #88

It had nothing to do with elitism and everything to do u4ic Nov 2013 #109

Most soy sauce has gluten! TexasBushwhacker Nov 2013 #113

Yep! u4ic Nov 2013 #119

I find it amusing, but it's also useful. winter is coming Nov 2013 #118

We cannot rule out the fact that the foods she is eating is filled with Growth hormones Heather MC Nov 2013 #16

+1 That's the thing about eating meat these days solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #18

it's no longer you are what you eat Heather MC Nov 2013 #43

it doesn't have to mean just beans and brown rice cali Nov 2013 #27

Wonderful recipe, thanks Cali Aerows Nov 2013 #55

Dry beans are far cheaper. And if somebody isn't able to soak and cook them, kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #32

Beans are so damn easy and delicious Aerows Nov 2013 #50

The problem, which the article really does not go into, since stereotypes are so much fun nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #62

Exactly Major Nikon Nov 2013 #68

How do we do this? Aerows Nov 2013 #96

Some people don't want to learn nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #108

Insufficient nutrition. Canned veggies are lacking in nutrients and heavy in salt. magical thyme Nov 2013 #61

I'm by no means perfect Aerows Nov 2013 #100

while homemade beans are better, beans from a can are fine too magical thyme Nov 2013 #131

My wife is Puerto Rican; beans and rice is a staple NickB79 Nov 2013 #66

Beans and rice Aerows Nov 2013 #103

Dried beans, brown rice and cheap root veggies if you're seriously poor Warpy Nov 2013 #76

I think the point here, is Aerows Nov 2013 #95

Is the link broken? johnp3907 Nov 2013 #2

link Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #4

Yes, working link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2013/11/09/too-much-of-too-little/ PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #6

Dry beans, rice, oatmeal. roody Nov 2013 #3

Exactly malletgirl02 Nov 2013 #10

More likely the opposite. Igel Nov 2013 #19

food stamps are outright provisioning for millions of people cali Nov 2013 #28

Not everyone can home garden. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2013 #24

One problem is people living in areas with little or no nutritious food for sale Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2013 #77

True, food deserts are a huge problem. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2013 #82

The old New Haven food co-op was located in an area that Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2013 #123

That's helpful. I Googled "5 ingredient recipes" earlier today... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2013 #143

This summed up the problem... Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #7

omg Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #8

Potato Chips and granola bars are expensive by my standards cpwm17 Nov 2013 #11

potato chips are crazy expensive, 50 cents worth of potatoes for 3bucks Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #15

We just got a WinCo foods and the bins are crazy cheap solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #21

I love Winco! Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #71

+1. In the Guardian today, Aldi's, it was reported, served horse meat closeupready Nov 2013 #87

Food stamps don't cause people to make stupid nutritional choices. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #12

The junk food lobby is destroying our country Dopers_Greed Nov 2013 #17

^^^THIS^^^ kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #34

It really shouldn't Aerows Nov 2013 #57

Agreed, about a million times over. magical thyme Nov 2013 #65

The family in the snippet doesn't come off that well. Nine Nov 2013 #20

Learning to cook is the best thing everyone (not just the poor) solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #23

I've spent time in very rural, very poor areas. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #25

Bad you. We're not allowed to suggest that the poor learn to cook and grow some of their own food kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #35

Years ago I had a neighbor who was a former foster child. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #36

Did you offer to take her shopping and how to prepare a few simple meals? Revanchist Nov 2013 #120

Yes, but she got evicted and moved away before very long and didn't take me up on it before then. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #121

It's a shame she wasn't around longer so you could do more. Revanchist Nov 2013 #124

Maybe it's not the suggestion people take exception to, but rather the sentiment implied behind it. LanternWaste Nov 2013 #139

I can't be bothered with that cross thing. I just don't bother to make helpful suggestions about how kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #141

Foolish article. Igel Nov 2013 #22

Uh, what? Aerows Nov 2013 #114

Precisely. Cheap food makes people obese. Laelth Nov 2013 #26

Nothing cheap about Bay Boy Nov 2013 #33

That is true Major Nikon Nov 2013 #70

Precisely. Laelth Nov 2013 #129

Convenience stores should not be roody Nov 2013 #39

In many of these places there are no other stores alarimer Nov 2013 #53

Nobody is suggesting she becomes the next gordon ramsey. Travis_0004 Nov 2013 #80

Convenience stores Harmony Blue Nov 2013 #104

We already have the knowledge and government publications csziggy Nov 2013 #59

Nice post. Thanks. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #130

so called healthy foods are not necessarily DesertFlower Nov 2013 #29

with no disrespect intended to you, a vegetarian that eats fish is not a vegetarian solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #38

no disrespect to me. i'm not a vegetarian. DesertFlower Nov 2013 #42

I know people on food stamps who eat plenty of fresh vegetables and lean meats IronLionZion Nov 2013 #37

I do and I don't feel I have to justify my purchases. duffyduff Nov 2013 #46

Some folks don't know any better IronLionZion Nov 2013 #49

How is pointing out the problems with SNAP and poor nutritional education "demonizing?" NuclearDem Nov 2013 #52

Have you read the whole thread? Nine Nov 2013 #60

Yeah, unfortunately there's a lot of that. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #69

Why locally NGOs and government are doing something about it. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #78

Unfortunatly, it's a local/states program situation. haele Nov 2013 #85

even here in California, Lemon Grove is not that good nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #86

I know, I live in Chollas View. But the bodegas are getting better about fresh food. haele Nov 2013 #92

I know nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #94

Glad to hear 'bout the gardens haele Nov 2013 #99

That is a lot nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #102

Sounds like everyone on this thread has it all figured out. Nine Nov 2013 #40

Yup, they apparently do. haele Nov 2013 #56

I'll admit there's some of the boyfriend's eating habits I share tabbycat31 Nov 2013 #112

Sounds like bullshit stereotyping to me of the poor, not to mention size prejudice. duffyduff Nov 2013 #45

Now that we're all paying mandatory insurance solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #48

It's society's business to make sure they have access to nutritional eductation Major Nikon Nov 2013 #64

I don't agree with this article Harmony Blue Nov 2013 #67

As you said, if there is a will to do so TexasBushwhacker Nov 2013 #75

According to Texas WIC website Harmony Blue Nov 2013 #79

She would only get WIC for that one child TexasBushwhacker Nov 2013 #81

Every little bit helps Harmony Blue Nov 2013 #101

Absolutely TexasBushwhacker Nov 2013 #110

Did you miss the part about being at the end of the month & unable to buy more food? politicat Nov 2013 #90

Yes, they are skills and skills can be learned TexasBushwhacker Nov 2013 #93

They're making a start. politicat Nov 2013 #125

Discount seconds store/"Big Lots" shopping. haele Nov 2013 #116

Exactly my point politicat Nov 2013 #127

I was recently exposed to hummus for the first time NickB79 Nov 2013 #73

Oh yes, I got so hooked on it I bought dried chickpeas, soaked and cooked them and ground them up libdem4life Nov 2013 #83

I've loved that stuff ever since someone brought it to a potluck Skittles Nov 2013 #126

STUPID headline! It's like saying a diet fueled on money makes you obese. JimDandy Nov 2013 #74

+1 Apparently 'earned' money buys healthier foods! leftstreet Nov 2013 #91

good point Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #134

Let me know when diet = fuel by any accepted concept. flvegan Nov 2013 #89

Chips, Granola Bars, Chocolate Milk, and Cereal are Cheap ? JI7 Nov 2013 #106

Maybe when you're poor and don't have much to make you happy, your TwilightGardener Nov 2013 #111

thank you. If people want to get people to eat better maybe they should focus more on liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #122

Yes--I think having an improvement of circumstances and some hope for a better TwilightGardener Nov 2013 #128

Majority of it is lazy ass parents... snooper2 Nov 2013 #135

I agree. It's one thing if an adult makes poor food choices for themselves TexasBushwhacker Nov 2013 #144

I live in south Texas and it is getting bad - it is the norm to be overweight it seems sammytko Nov 2013 #136

"A diet fueled by food stamps" == right wing frame ljm2002 Nov 2013 #138