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161. That's not a put down, it's the truth. If you A/B vinyl and digital cd you will hear the difference.

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 03:42 AM

Nov 2013

That being said, I don't keep up with vinyl. I prefer the longevity and ease of CDs, and lower cost too. Nothing wrong with FLAC though, as it's lossless even though it is compressed.

I do have some mp3 albums since they were so cheap to buy. I got a new release that's one of my current fave's for only $2.99. But if the CD is the same price or close to it I'll buy that instead and either flacify it or mp3 it depending on where I'm going to play/put it.

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Why do you hate Apple products? [View all] fried eggs Nov 2013 OP

I like them. They work well for my purposes. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2013 #1

crist I HATE MS products! cilla4progress Nov 2013 #3

Same here. ananda Nov 2013 #28

love my apple products shanti Nov 2013 #80

I've been on Mac since '87... MattSh Nov 2013 #100

I don't hate the products. I hate the business model. Warpy Nov 2013 #101

Parking Tens Of Billions Off-Shore To Not Pay Taxes - That's A Biggie For Me! n/t TheBlackAdder Nov 2013 #135

Exchanging Word files hasn't been a problem for more than 10 years Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2013 #2

We were having issues nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #8

The .docx format (and the other -x formats) are now available for Mac, too Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2013 #11

The boss has 97. I have 98 nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #14

You can also get a docx converter frazzled Nov 2013 #12

docx is not quirk, it is a plot... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #31

I know. I have to use word nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #108

Use my 2008 Macbook every day (work & home) im1013 Nov 2013 #156

I used to use Open Office, and still have the latest... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #157

Same here. ananda Nov 2013 #30

I don't hate Apple products. nt City Lights Nov 2013 #4

a little to do with the stuff you mentioned ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #5

Nice analysis! kentauros Nov 2013 #88

fyi mp3's all suck wilt the stilt Nov 2013 #139

My portable is mostly FLAC format. kentauros Nov 2013 #141

Audioenegine speakers cost $400. wilt the stilt Nov 2013 #149

FLAC is still better than mp3s kentauros Nov 2013 #150

That's not a put down, it's the truth. If you A/B vinyl and digital cd you will hear the difference. cui bono Nov 2013 #161

Well, it reads as a put down, and why I highlighted it. kentauros Nov 2013 #179

You're right, the Blackberry predated the iPhone Chathamization Nov 2013 #114

Blackberry... Blackberry ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #116

There weren't droids in '07 - which pre-iphone smart phones were you thinking of? Chathamization Nov 2013 #118

Palm, IBM and Kyocera ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #122

Hah. So you say that the Blackberry is a valid example, yet claim I missed the point. Chathamization Nov 2013 #123

try a decade earlier, smart-guy... ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #147

Hah. You claimed Nokia made the best ones, yet get upset when I actually compared the smartphone Chathamization Nov 2013 #148

Apple never claimed ann--- Nov 2013 #128

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uh, their marketing makes it very clear that they are the first ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2013 #146

iOS is not safer than any other smartphone OS. In fact, it's more prone to getting a virus cui bono Nov 2013 #162

Plus, they patent technology that's *already* in use in Android phones just to make the Android cui bono Nov 2013 #163

We have Mac, windows, and Android nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #6

well gee, then just support MS products and forget about an absurd reasons to hate or love a lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #7

I don't hate Apple products. I think that variety is a good thing. Xithras Nov 2013 #9

I don't have any hate for the company, I just find most of their products annoying. EOTE Nov 2013 #10

I download media regularly nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #17

And what about media on your computers? EOTE Nov 2013 #21

It matches, it syncs automatically nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #24

Again, wireless has its own set of issues. EOTE Nov 2013 #25

My only issue rbixby Nov 2013 #13

like 'em. spanone Nov 2013 #15

I don't hate them they make my life easier and more productive. we can do it Nov 2013 #16

I like their products. It's the company ethos that makes my skin crawl. Scuba Nov 2013 #18

The only problems I have with Apple are 1) Foxconn NuclearDem Nov 2013 #19

My father bought my mother an Android tablet recently OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #27

I think it's the chips Rstrstx Nov 2013 #66

That is exactly what my husband told me OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #71

The quasi-deification of Steve Jobs TlalocW Nov 2013 #20

I doubt anybody here has had to deal with Itunes app store... snooper2 Nov 2013 #22

I use it all the time, never had any problems. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2013 #44

Maybe I should have been clearer, snooper2 Nov 2013 #49

I never have bought an Apple anything. Always considered the computers too locked down TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #23

don't hate em. i liked my ipod before phones had enough storage to use as a music player. dionysus Nov 2013 #26

I loathe Apple with the fire of 1,000 suns. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #29

I have not had to pay very much if anything for a software update for an Apple product LiberalArkie Nov 2013 #34

I just updated Windows from 8 to 8.1 and it was free. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #35

The last time I paid for an update OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #67

I'm saying I didn't have to pay for any updates either. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #68

Dude, you whinned above a few posts about supposed fee based updates ksoze Nov 2013 #72

I was talking about new iPhone and iPads that are only incremental updates. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #73

Okay, but isn't that an industry wide practice. ksoze Nov 2013 #76

Samsung has many different lines of phones. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #90

You lost me on the multiple series ksoze Nov 2013 #92

The series are different from each other. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #97

For a lot of people that's what makes the iPhone unappealing. No new hardware for 18 months. cui bono Nov 2013 #166

Oh I thought you meant you had to pay for OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #75

iDon't seveneyes Nov 2013 #32

I disliked, from what I knew, Steve Jobs - deadbeat dad, closeupready Nov 2013 #33

Union buster, too. Erose999 Nov 2013 #48

Deadbeat dad? He had a good marriage, from what I heard, pnwmom Nov 2013 #81

Ask Lisa Brennan-Jobs about that. closeupready Nov 2013 #86

What are you talking about? How often have I ever posted about Apple? nt pnwmom Nov 2013 #93

A lot, from what I recall. I apologize if I'm thinking of closeupready Nov 2013 #96

This is the only post that I found when I googled myself here. pnwmom Nov 2013 #104

He went to court and called the mother of his child, Lisa, a liar. MADem Nov 2013 #173

Yeah, I haven't followed his personal life, except for awareness pnwmom Nov 2013 #175

I am not relating his conduct to buying Apple products. MADem Nov 2013 #182

Looking for pretentious? pnwmom Nov 2013 #183

Well, I buy cheapass clones. I'm using a laptop right now that does MADem Nov 2013 #184

I don't hate Apple, I just don't see the point in... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #36

All Apple here�all the time since 1993... Tikki Nov 2013 #37

I have worked for 2 major cellphone janlyn Nov 2013 #38

I hate Apple because of its acolytes and their smarmy sanctimony Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #39

LOL @ your working rectum tridim Nov 2013 #83

Why do you think I hate Apple products? Rex Nov 2013 #40

Yeah I'm not fond of MS generally OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #64

I'm jealous that people have extra money to throw away for fashion products DireStrike Nov 2013 #41

Wrong. I bought my first Mac in 1988 The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2013 #43

Obviously a 1988 mac is an entirely different animal. DireStrike Nov 2013 #45

Apple's operating systems and interfaces have changed dramatically since then. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2013 #50

I use both and honestly, there's not much difference between using a Mac or a PC. cui bono Nov 2013 #167

no, i bought one because they are reliable and i knew i was going to too poor to replace my laptop La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #51

I'm only going to respond to one of you guys with a point I should have made in my response DireStrike Nov 2013 #107

i got a PC in 2007 and was terrible and no one company would take responsibility for it La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #115

You're exactly right. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #62

Well, my college professor recommended Apple computer to me because I was an older student, new to.. Tikki Nov 2013 #77

nonsense shanti Nov 2013 #82

I've never had a virus on any of my PCs since 1995. n/t cui bono Nov 2013 #168

Status symbol, that's funny OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #85

It's not fashion -- it's lifespan. politicat Nov 2013 #94

Yes this. wickerwoman Nov 2013 #164

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If you can't send a word file to a Mac, you got misplaced hate ksoze Nov 2013 #42

While I have a PC OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #46

Exactly. People shouldn't be treating a computer brand preference The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2013 #53

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The Only RobinA Nov 2013 #47

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thats my fav part about having an apple. a physical place i can take my stuff too La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #57

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And you think the Softies aren't smug? You should try living up here, pnwmom Nov 2013 #176

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My tech guy PasadenaTrudy Nov 2013 #78

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Open systems versus closed systems BlueStreak Nov 2013 #95

It's over priced, outsourced junk krawhitham Nov 2013 #98

Let's see: Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #99

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I don't. Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #105

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Are you listening, Microshaft? ucrdem Nov 2013 #111

I have an iPad and an iPod so I don't entirely hate Apple products. Initech Nov 2013 #112

I don't. LWolf Nov 2013 #113

Their walled garden approach sucks TransitJohn Nov 2013 #119

I don't even like I phones! B Calm Nov 2013 #120

I think everyone kind of senses Shankapotomus Nov 2013 #121

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I eat apples all the time. I eat eggs all the time, too. nt valerief Nov 2013 #126

Meh. I don't hate Apple. HappyMe Nov 2013 #127

The constant blue-screen crashes. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #130

If you're getting a lot of kernel panics, you should run Disk Utility REP Nov 2013 #140

Okay, here's a thought. Why not just use SAVE AS and save it as a SlimJimmy Nov 2013 #131

Apple Doesn't PROTECT Their Customers -- But, They'll Let A Thief Enjoy Your Stolen Property! TheBlackAdder Nov 2013 #132

My only complaint CFLDem Nov 2013 #133

Just have to say, Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #134

Don't hate them, Kermitt Gribble Nov 2013 #136

Because I can't take them apart. krispos42 Nov 2013 #137

I have iTunes 11.0.1.12 on this Win7 laptop and it never asks me to update (current is 11.1.3). Make7 Nov 2013 #172

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Hopefully they have a backup for you whistler162 Nov 2013 #142

The insularity and excess cost of it all. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #143

How can one hate an inanimate object? Morphia Nov 2013 #144

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Y'all are gullible. mattclearing Nov 2013 #159

In terms of their computers I've never seen myself as adaptable to their products davidpdx Nov 2013 #160

Nobody has ever had more contempt for customers than Mr. Jobs. Nobody. joshcryer Nov 2013 #165

Don't hate the products, though the iPhone is an inferior phone, but hate the company ethics cui bono Nov 2013 #169

They co-opt open source software without giving back to the open-source community Recursion Nov 2013 #170

I don't hate them. I just don't like their planned obsolescence. Fearless Nov 2013 #171

iTunes. DCRM. iPhone should show up as a drive, jail broken, and unlocked. grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #174

is this apple`s biggest problem? madrchsod Nov 2013 #177

How I became an apple fan. Soundman Nov 2013 #178

Forced obsolescence and the move towards "computing appliances". sir pball Nov 2013 #181