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Spider Jerusalem

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31. Except the rifle was found to be quite accurate when test-fired.
Mon Nov 11, 2013, 04:24 AM
Nov 2013

This is yet another case of conspiracy authors just making things up.

TESTIMONY OF RONALD SIMMONS beginning at 3H441...

Mr. EISENBERG. Our next witness will be Mr. Simmons.
(snip)
Mr. EISENBERG. Can you give us your position, Mr. Simmons?
Mr. SIMMONS. I am the Chief of the Infantry Weapons Evaluation Branch of the Ballistics Research Laboratory of the Department of the Army.
(snip)
Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Simmons, did you conduct a test from a machine rest, a test of round-to- round dispersion of this weapon, or have such tests conducted?
Mr. SIMMONS. May I check the serial number?
Mr. EISENBERG. I should ask first if you are familiar with this weapon.
I have handed the witness Commission Exhibit 139.
Mr. SIMMONS. Yes. We fired this weapon from a machine rest for round-to-round dispersion. We fired exactly 20 rounds in this test, and the dispersion which we measured is of conventional magnitude, about the same that we get with our present military rifles, and the standard deviation of dispersion is .29 mil.

Mr. EISENBERG. That is a fraction of a degree?
Mr. SIMMONS. A mil is an angular measurement. There are 17.7 mils to a degree.
Mr. EISENBERG. Do I understand your testimony to be that this rifle is as accurate as the current American military rifles?
Mr. SIMMONS. Yes. As far as we can determine from bench-rest firing.
Mr. EISENBERG. Would you consider that to be a high degree of accuracy?
Mr. SIMMONS. Yes, the weapon is quite accurate. For most small arms, we discover that the round- to-round dispersion is of the order of three-tenths of a mil. We have run into some unusual ones, however, which give us higher values, but very few which give us smaller values, except in selected lots of ammunition.

Mr. McCLOY. You are talking about the present military rifle--will you designate it?
Mr. SIMMONS. The M-14.
Mr. McCLOY. Is it as accurate as the Springfield 1906 ammunition?
Mr. SIMMONS. I am not familiar with the difference between the M-14 in its accuracy and the 1906 Springfield. These are very similar in their dispersion.
Mr. McCLOY. At a hundred yards, what does that amount to? What is the dispersion?
Mr. SIMMONS. Well, at a hundred yards, one mil is 3.6 inches, and 0.3 of that is a little more than an inch.

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/simmons.htm
I read "Oswald" by Norman Mailer. RagAss Nov 2013 #1
None. It makes me too sad. Glad they are out there though. Bobby, too. The last of the great libdem4life Nov 2013 #2
I have read too many to recall... JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #3
I started with those and Livingstone and Groden's "High Treason". Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #4
Sounds like my reading as well, and in the same order. stopbush Nov 2013 #9
Just one. The second one you posted. I grew up assuming it was a 'lone wolf' right wing lunatic sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #5
Oswald's tale is definitely an interesting and highly unsual one Fumesucker Nov 2013 #24
How many book have you read on 9/11, ESP, UFOs, Roswell? Same Difference. nt Logical Nov 2013 #6
"I marched down to the local bookstore" PETRUS Nov 2013 #7
I read "Chariots Of The Gods" by Eric Von Daniken 40 years ago. Archae Nov 2013 #8
I guess everybody on this thread is nuts meanit Nov 2013 #10
So You Read Them, Huh ??? WillyT Nov 2013 #11
I have not read one single book on Kennedy's assassination. defacto7 Nov 2013 #12
Check Out Jim Marrs' Crossfire... Even In The Preface He Tells You Not To Trust The Book... WillyT Nov 2013 #13
Thanks WillyT... defacto7 Nov 2013 #15
In 2038 I will be 92. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #21
I know what you mean. defacto7 Nov 2013 #30
A shot of less than 100 yards on a slow moving target is not only likely... Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #36
Posner's Case Closed exboyfil Nov 2013 #14
I still have that paperback edition of On The Trail of the Assassins somewhere. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #16
Does Stephen King's 11/22/63 count? krawhitham Nov 2013 #17
Bizarre that Stephen King used plagiarist Gerald Posner and Edward Epstein MinM Nov 2013 #38
one that influenced me was "Richard Case Nagell: The Man Who Knew Too Much" grasswire Nov 2013 #18
Thank You For That !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #19
Alex Cox with a nice Richard Case Nagell summary (video) MinM Nov 2013 #44
A couple more good books in my bookcase are.. MinM Nov 2013 #45
Many years ago I picked up four or five... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #20
Yeah... I Heard That Gun Was Generally Considered A Piece Of Shit... WillyT Nov 2013 #23
Except the rifle was found to be quite accurate when test-fired. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #31
Keep reading-- the bolt problem is still there... TreasonousBastard Nov 2013 #32
Not really, no. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #34
Wow. I can't believe I'm actually putting "JFK" on my trashed word list. Iggo Nov 2013 #22
Bye... WillyT Nov 2013 #25
Take it easy... Iggo Nov 2013 #26
None Marrah_G Nov 2013 #27
I read a number of them decades ago but the best one I ever read was Samantha Nov 2013 #28
I have read over 75 books, read the complete Warren Commission report gopiscrap Nov 2013 #29
I probably shouldn't post this, but I will anyway. ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #33
Haven't read any oswaldactedalone Nov 2013 #35
None. I won't put money in CTs pockets. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #37
I saw that episode of The X-Files with the Cigarette Smoking Man. Does that count? Orrex Nov 2013 #39
Top 10 by Lisa Pease MinM Nov 2013 #40
None. I worked with a couple of pathologists who worked on JFK when it happened mulsh Nov 2013 #41
One less than the number of opinions I have on the subject. Coyotl Nov 2013 #42
JFK was assassinated!? rock Nov 2013 #43
One. Four Days: The Historical Record of the Death of President Kennedy ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #46
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