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libdem4life

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152. Not sure what "triangulation" you are talking about, but do recall that she is a Rodham and that

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 05:32 PM

Nov 2013

the surname Clinton was forced upon her by the RWers and the PC Police. And she doesn't exactly fit the role of Democratic Dittohead of her Husband.

So if we take away the perjorative...another Clinton...perhaps this is food for thought? And we've been a ways away from that other Clinton, the male, so does PBO fall within this triangulation argument?

Just when I was feeling so happy we didn't have a President Bush...silly me. We could have ramped up Iraq and Afghanistan and been slouching toward Iran by now to bring to pass the Gospel of Revelations or, while crusading against the gays with a Constitutional amendment or something.

But be my guest...pout and stay home. Let's hear it for President Cruz, or the "smart" Bush from the same Mama...what the heck. No triangulation in that equation???

That'll show 'em. Not.

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Explain what "Class" has to do with it? brooklynite Nov 2013 #10

Its classy to encourage your allies to run. NoOneMan Nov 2013 #11

Who did Obama encourage to run in 2008? brooklynite Nov 2013 #13

I don't know. This was a secret letter afterall NoOneMan Nov 2013 #15

The lines between which you read are... Agschmid Nov 2013 #16

This entire lie is taking liberties with the truth NoOneMan Nov 2013 #19

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+10 n/t whathehell Nov 2013 #127

Well said Bill and welcome Hestia Nov 2013 #132

Good one, brooklynite! calimary Nov 2013 #108

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Of course... brooklynite Nov 2013 #116

Hillary has no nightmare. She is as inevitable as in 2008 NoOneMan Nov 2013 #2

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The best thing about "inevitable 2008" posts. joshcryer Nov 2013 #77

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What a nightmare that could be though hfojvt Nov 2013 #156

Except Warren supports Hillary. scheming daemons Nov 2013 #3

She endorsed her publicly for president in 2016?!?! NoOneMan Nov 2013 #7

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and the media would Frenzy about dat! Whisp Nov 2013 #117

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The first and third reply. Interesting how lies spread themselves NoOneMan Nov 2013 #42

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K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #18

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word. nt. NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #29

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Elizabeth Warren is prepared to be president after a handful of months in her first elected office? Beacool Nov 2013 #76

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Elizabeth Warren/Wendy Davis 2016! Rozlee Nov 2013 #48

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Warren for President 2016 bajamary Nov 2013 #56

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Signed into the crazy just to Rec this post. TalkingDog Nov 2013 #133

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