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In reply to the discussion: If not Warren, then whom? If not now, then when? [View all]JustAnotherGen
(31,783 posts)6. Spotless record yes
Last edited Tue Nov 12, 2013, 02:32 PM - Edit history (1)
But I think her being a Republican at one time is in the back of people's minds.<--- It doesn't matter to me but I've seen that expressed as an 'issue' by a few DU'ers. They also tend to be Boomers and older who have been staunch Democratic party members and leftists all of their lives - and well . . . I understand them on this (though I'm Gen X). My mom is their peer and she has held Clinton being for Goldwater back in the 1960's against her ever since she hit the national stage. We have to respect those who have always respected and held liberal and progressive values - and they have a 'right' to have trepidation with her on that.And remember - Obama was considered one of the MOST liberal Senators in 2007. It was actually used to attack him - And now he is a centrist. Regardless of how liberal someone is - they eventually have to compromise and work/play well with others.
Me - I do not care at ALL who the Candidate is because mark my words -
1. I'm not giving to any national Party fund raising avenues (they didn't help Buono here in NJ so fuck em - I'll give directly to candidates ONLY never the "Party" again).
and
2. I'm voting for the Democratic Candidate.
If it's Clinton and Schumer - I'm voting for them. If its Warren and Sanders - I'm voting for them. If it's Biden and Sherrod Brown (Looooooooooooove him!) I'm voting for them.
This entire site has a better chance of meeting god sometime in the next two minutes from me hitting the 'post my reply button' - than it does me sitting home and not casting a D vote on election day 2016. regardless of who is elected in primary/caucus season.
So I'll leave the arguments to you guys - I observed in 2004 the 'primary season' at DU and was posting in 2008 and of course we had none in 2012. But in 2004 and 2008 - I learned to zip my lip, sit back, then get active and out there working for the candidate when all is said and done.
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Being a conservative Goldwater Republican in your youth, maybe because your parents
merrily
Nov 2013
#226
After posting, I saw another thread saying she wants the filibuster rule changed.
merrily
Nov 2013
#230
I am curious why you are offering advice here. It's apparent that you dont share our
rhett o rick
Nov 2013
#195
Yes, but I'm just saying, one term in the Senate is now considered an appropriate spring board. Hell
Erose999
Nov 2013
#96
I love Elizabeth Warren but I have to agree with Renew Deal. It's too soon for her to run.
Dollface
Nov 2013
#110
What they ignored was the single sentence where you declared "we must start now"
jeff47
Nov 2013
#66
Excellent, well reasoned post. It's time to start the 'draft Elizabeth' movement now.
Scuba
Nov 2013
#16
The economic issues are vitally important. Whoever can credibly run on a "the game is rigged"
winter is coming
Nov 2013
#105
I'm not afraid of our losing. I can't stand the media hype of some divide within this party, is all.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#90
I think she's letting all the Republican opponents and the GOP policy come out through them.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#93
Understand. HRC handles bullshit. Doesn't mean she should. Now, try to think about the delay --
ancianita
Nov 2013
#101
Don't worry. We'll get a good primary; better than the GOP idiots deserve, as they slobber over
ancianita
Nov 2013
#111
What Shcheiber's essay shows is that the Democratic Party has moved to the left.
Laelth
Nov 2013
#42
Couldn't have said it better. The "back bench" thought is right on, especially the Progressive one.
libdem4life
Nov 2013
#190
I support drafting Sherrod Brown, if not him then Russ Feingold both over Warren
TheKentuckian
Nov 2013
#69
Not really. I'm evaluating candidates on their positions, not their gender.
winter is coming
Nov 2013
#103
I'd happily vote for Warren, any day. Same goes for any genuine populist.
winter is coming
Nov 2013
#125
I want a Clinton/Warren ticket. I love Warren but believe Clinton is more electable. I'd also love
OregonBlue
Nov 2013
#77
Because I think she has total name recognition and she has the Obama machine behind her.
OregonBlue
Nov 2013
#121
We need to nominate a liberal/progressive. Warren is a good choice as a liberal.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2013
#82
Kamala Harris is an underrated possibility. I like her. Primarying Hillary might be the national
ancianita
Nov 2013
#91
Bill Richardson-Howard Dean-Amy Klobuchar-Joe Biden-Barbara Mikulski-Patty Murray-Maria Cantwell
ieoeja
Nov 2013
#95
Nope, he didn't. But many here did. Of course she won't say right now. It's not the time for it.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#106
Charlie Pierce has made me re-think my all-out support for a Pres. run for her -
bullwinkle428
Nov 2013
#122
Oh, you're totally welcome! I'm on board with CP probably 99% of the time,
bullwinkle428
Nov 2013
#186
Dec 2014. There are many qualified candidates, she is no more anointed than HRC is. nt
La Lioness Priyanka
Nov 2013
#168
whomever actually declares their candidacy? I am not going to pretend that i know of every potential
La Lioness Priyanka
Nov 2013
#175
I don't think a Presidential candidate can be "recruited" or "drafted"
scheming daemons
Nov 2013
#194
Yes, but many won't run unless they feel wanted enough by being "drafted"... We've "drafted" before
cascadiance
Nov 2013
#214
Almost every candidate says they're not running this early in the game.
Courtesy Flush
Nov 2013
#207
+100000 I agree with you that she would be a formidable candidate.
woo me with science
Nov 2013
#225