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In reply to the discussion: I think people should, in general, choose not to have abortions [View all]ancianita
(43,325 posts)morality and all of the individual and presumptive institutional territory that claims it. I'm glad you responded as you did.
You reiterate that you oppose all restrictions on a woman's right... But your OP is also your stance. I say that, push come to shove, you can't have it both ways and that, unless you're willing to admit here and now that you take back your OP, you're pandering in the guise of rational discussion.
When you decide that public discussion of private decisions is the public's prerogative and publicly state what the private decision should be, you privilege consensus of opinion over individual 'free will.' It's really a contradictory stance, since we all know that 'people' have been trying to kill free will in other people for millennia.
I'm going to say that, once enough men have heard the faulty underpinnings of patriarchal morality, they will stop raising the issue of "having their say" while publicly establishing social and legal consensus that sides with their male-identified power interests --after they've built 'sanctioned' violence/punishments to back them up -- and which lie with controlling as many humans as possible, starting with women and children.
I only bring up the religious issues here because too many might be tip-toeing around the language often associated with their religious "training." Many deeply held feelings of our formative years last into our adulthood, and so do the associations with that training's patriarchal moralities.