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Luminous Animal

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125. So are you or are you not a "person of culture".

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 12:56 AM

Nov 2013

According to the OP, I am not because I am white and white people have contributed no original culture to the United States.

The OP actually asked white people to present their uniquely "American" cultural credibility. How fucking insulting is that? I gave her specific examples of white European migration that contributed to uniquely "American" culture and her response was *crickets*.

The needless strife was caused by the OP. It has not been caused by specific groups of white people (French, Irish, German, Italian, Estonian, Polish, Ukranian) who, as do people of color, not only strive to maintain their culture and celebrate their folklore, but have contributed to U.S. culture in their own unique ways.

For people of color to claim the mantle that they ARE the people of culture is to flat out negate the fact that white people also are people of culture.

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"People of Culture" [View all] Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 OP

so the "people of no culture" don't get diabetes lol nt msongs Nov 2013 #1

I was in Miami, Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #3

We're all people of culture. But also dislike the word "minorities". Some day, hopefully, we won't libdem4life Nov 2013 #2

So check beneath your fingernails, in between your toes Fumesucker Nov 2013 #4

Good one. libdem4life Nov 2013 #5

I like that... Callmecrazy Nov 2013 #6

not sure what this means, plenty of culture out there regardless of ethnic group or race loli phabay Nov 2013 #8

I can't think of anything off the top of my head... Callmecrazy Nov 2013 #9

st paddys day, for one, scottish and irish and polish and german festivals loli phabay Nov 2013 #10

All true... Callmecrazy Nov 2013 #12

i would say they are american, a lot of the festivals etc are only done in america loli phabay Nov 2013 #13

I dunno... Callmecrazy Nov 2013 #17

thanks, have a good kip loli phabay Nov 2013 #18

I grew up in suburbia. Very uniquely American. Throd Nov 2013 #15

Thanksgiving! notadmblnd Nov 2013 #77

there is no unique white american culture arely staircase Nov 2013 #174

"White Americans" are not monolithic. Throd Nov 2013 #11

Well, there's always this! dawg Nov 2013 #40

Lutefisk. Shrike47 Nov 2013 #82

I am caucasion but both sets of grandparents Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #58

tuna noodle cassarole Bucky Nov 2013 #132

Of course it is. I was being sarcastic. Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #172

Was that satire or actually DUs dumbest post of the week? MattBaggins Nov 2013 #70

Opinions vary. Callmecrazy Nov 2013 #74

Uh... bull Scootaloo Nov 2013 #105

You make a good point, Scootaloo... Callmecrazy Nov 2013 #110

French? Italian? Scandanavian? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #115

Is this deliberately trolling? Bucky Nov 2013 #134

it's ignorance... Callmecrazy Nov 2013 #171

Umm... you're not so much a person of American culture WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2013 #167

Errm... uriel1972 Nov 2013 #7

I don't like it either WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2013 #169

just curious but....who exactly has no culture? Skittles Nov 2013 #14

Well, everyone has a heritage and a legacy, but when you hear Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #16

because it insinuates other people have no culture which is not true Skittles Nov 2013 #19

Then why aren't we making the same push against the right-wingers Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #25

I believe we do make that push MattBaggins Nov 2013 #72

Show me a link to a thread that discusses it. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #80

I'm not a star member MattBaggins Nov 2013 #86

Because white people are also people of culture. You really want to take a term and Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #22

I have no problem with your reasoning. I just wonder why no one thought to be Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #26

I think that when Inkfreak Nov 2013 #43

It's a good ramble. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #46

Heritage is also plastered around my town Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #99

There you go. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #100

Then you would have no problem with Storm Front Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #103

Our societies are getting so divided that I believe it will happen that way anyway. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #106

Kulturvolker Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #130

Self-determination is what I'm suggesting. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #133

To the exclusion of others. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #145

Wake up. They are a minority group. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #150

Well, there's that guy who, when you say "Dylan,' thinks yer talkin' bout Dylan Thomas. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2013 #57

People who spit. Shrike47 Nov 2013 #85

I can't tell if this is ironic or not. Brickbat Nov 2013 #20

Not ironic at all. It comes down to the theme of self-determination. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #27

everyone has a culture so it wouldn't make sense in the context people want to use it JI7 Nov 2013 #21

Follow the posts up thread where I point out that the same reasoning should be Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #28

Ummm I would bet that 99.99999% of DUers MattBaggins Nov 2013 #76

I don't recall any threads trying to take the terms back. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #79

I am fairly certain there have wither been threads or subthreads MattBaggins Nov 2013 #84

Are you sure she didn't actually say "people of color", and you misheard her? Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #23

Read your statement very carefully. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #30

I like people of color treestar Nov 2013 #24

Now that you mention it, "people of color" is pretty stupid too. Bucky Nov 2013 #139

stupid idea. every human on the planet is a "person of culture" scheming daemons Nov 2013 #29

Were you as adamant when the right-wingers began to use the terms Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #31

there is no prohibition for us to use those terms scheming daemons Nov 2013 #32

I'm not convinced it's a bad idea. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #34

it is divisive scheming daemons Nov 2013 #36

I understand your reasoning. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #37

You seem to be using them as a benchmark Union Scribe Nov 2013 #51

I don't think it's a terrible idea. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #67

Yes. Cultural DIFFERENCES! Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #101

+1 n/t tammywammy Nov 2013 #61

Thanks for the OP; I rec'd it. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #33

Thanks for the rec. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #35

Did this woman say "people of culture" or "people of MY culture"? MattBaggins Nov 2013 #81

I think it's obvious that it translated to mean "our" cultures. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #87

Words mean things. Let's take a look at what 'culture' actually means and what you are saying Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #38

What I think is that it means something to ethnic minorities and that is not a bad Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #39

Of course they have a culture, we all do. That's the point. If they think they have a culture and Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #41

I understand your point. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #42

But it doesn't mean anything to ethnic minorities muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #54

Not in such terms. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #68

Yes, but that's just part of everyone having culture muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #89

Truth be told, it's for them to decide how they should be addressed. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #90

No. sibelian Nov 2013 #44

Soon, a generation will have to come up with a new word, because Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #47

No. Iggo Nov 2013 #83

Well, it will no longer apply to the larger ethnic cultures. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #88

I think a lot of people ....... oldhippie Nov 2013 #45

I'm really disappointed in a lot of you, so eager to stir the pot. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #48

Thanks. I needed that today. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #50

What if I, a white woman decided to call white people Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #52

And you think that message doesn't get communicated in a number of ways? Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #69

Of course I do and it is bullshit Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #96

That is how you may view it. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #97

I'm sure it gives them some comfort to believe Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #98

First see post #33, then concentrate on #48. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #112

So are you or are you not a "person of culture". Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #125

I believe callmecrazy was the one specifically claiming lack of American originality or uniqueness. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #127

You are right. But I've yet to see the OP recognize that white people also Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #129

there was nothing wrong with the story, but he asked about replacing certain terms with others JI7 Nov 2013 #55

And what, pray tell, was so evil about the original question? NOTHING! IrishAyes Nov 2013 #113

I feel so ADMONISHED. sibelian Nov 2013 #157

I had no idea that we could, simply by looking at a face, determine a person's culture or heritage. LanternWaste Nov 2013 #49

That's missing a lot of important information that has already been relayed. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #71

Coded speech verging on meaninglessness. maxsolomon Nov 2013 #53

Statistics show that medical information is not reaching minority groups. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #73

I agree. Whatever it takes to make the patient less defensive. maxsolomon Nov 2013 #161

That was never my position. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #164

Yes I know. maxsolomon Nov 2013 #170

Thanks. I appreciate it. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #173

For all intensive purposes, you probably have something there. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #56

I don't usually comment off topic like this... tammywammy Nov 2013 #59

Lol rudolph the red Nov 2013 #60

No, I got it. tammywammy Nov 2013 #64

Sorry about that rudolph the red Nov 2013 #65

Nah, it's all good. tammywammy Nov 2013 #66

You mean I misheard all those phrases I wrote? Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #62

.... tammywammy Nov 2013 #63

No, I don't think you do. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #78

I find it amusing you think I don't know what "culture" means. n/t tammywammy Nov 2013 #92

I think it's in poor taste to try to take a cheap shot on an issue that is very Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #94

You think the phrase "people of culture" tammywammy Nov 2013 #95

"Irregardless" is a perfectly cromulent word Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #117

Thank you. It means without irregard to something. Bucky Nov 2013 #144

I appreciate it. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #75

* Bucky Nov 2013 #142

I think "people" sounds better. nt valerief Nov 2013 #91

+1 Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #93

Could she have meant NOLALady Nov 2013 #102

Good grief, no. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #107

That assumes the rest of us don't have culture BainsBane Nov 2013 #104

I support it if it gets the necessary medical information across. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #108

Whatever a doctor wants to discuss with a patient is their business BainsBane Nov 2013 #109

I'm sorry. I forgot my place. I'll cast my eyes to the ground again. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #111

I know you're being facetious, but if you let these gauche contrarians really get to you, IrishAyes Nov 2013 #116

IrishAyes, you are a bright light in a dark room. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #119

So no culture and now not even human. Union Scribe Nov 2013 #122

Well, quite frankly, when I'm set upon by a swarm of bees, I start swatting! IrishAyes Nov 2013 #124

Dehumanizing, belittling, insulting... Union Scribe Nov 2013 #136

Come on BainsBane Nov 2013 #123

Erm, white rice is piled on in Latin American restaurants. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #126

True, but it's still healthier than the average American diet BainsBane Nov 2013 #146

There are other factors at play. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #151

It IS important - it illustrates the utility and respect of relating to a person on their own terms. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #114

+1000 Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #120

Actually, the OP has claimed that this is a title that "minorities" should Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #128

I'm trying to make this as simple as possible so you and the others can understand; IrishAyes Nov 2013 #135

Please stop referring to posters as animals. nt Union Scribe Nov 2013 #138

Actually. You've not answered the one question I have asked you.. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #141

well, under that definition BainsBane Nov 2013 #148

"People of color" is an inaccurate term to describe Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #137

Then I guess they are not "people of culture". Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #143

Non Sequitur. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #152

I already know that. I was being sarcastic. Luminous Animal Nov 2013 #168

What guys? BainsBane Nov 2013 #147

Go for it, I think people have a right to call themselves whatever quinnox Nov 2013 #118

It feels great to hear you say that. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #121

It's bland & meaningless. Everyone has culture. Bucky Nov 2013 #131

It is a meaningful term to them. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #158

Wow, this is STILL going on? Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #140

At least we know what DU would be like if Emily Litella were a member. smokey nj Nov 2013 #149

I was standing right next to her. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #159

Everybody has a culture of some kind, don't they? get the red out Nov 2013 #153

Fair enough. I guess I'll be a "person of gaucheness"... sibelian Nov 2013 #154

I can be a part of a culture with minorities. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #155

A thoroughly insulting name to whites and non-whites alike... devils chaplain Nov 2013 #156

There is no copyright on the term, "culture." Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #160

Then how can it meaningfully describe any subset of humanity in separation from any other? sibelian Nov 2013 #162

Because we are already a divided society. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #163

That response may appear to you to have pertained to my question. sibelian Nov 2013 #165

I guess you'll have to make yourself more clear because I feel Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #166