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jeff47

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19. No, I'm saying candidate Obama was campaigning

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:59 AM

Nov 2013

Which was not a perfect reflection of how he would govern. Partially because he was trying to win, and partially because people attached all their political hopes to the man.

For example, a ton of people on DU complained that Obama didn't immediately pull out of Afghanistan upon taking office. But Obama promised during his campaign to stay in Afghanistan - those posters attached their wishes to the man, ignoring what he actually said in favor of what they wanted him to do.

There was not a "move to the right". It was the same guy he was in the IL state government and Congress. The fact that we wished for someone better did not mean we got someone better.

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Left wants challenger for Hillary Clinton [View all] Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 OP

I like the idea and hope they can find someone credible. Not a Nader/Perot-type. No. No. No. libdem4life Nov 2013 #1

A Primary Challenger is by definition a member of the same Party seeking the same Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #10

I'll help you get the "hang" of the post...no Independent, Green, or anti-Hillary libdem4life Nov 2013 #21

ROFL Oilwellian Nov 2013 #22

Does not relate. Early internal political energy.We can handle supporting two candidates and monitor libdem4life Nov 2013 #25

Then the Left needs to work for a large win in 2014. jeff47 Nov 2013 #2

False: See 2006 and 2008. TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #4

Candidate Obama was far to the left of President Obama. jeff47 Nov 2013 #7

No, my subject supports my assesment as does your first statement TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #8

No, I'm saying candidate Obama was campaigning jeff47 Nov 2013 #19

Your post is what my blue14u Nov 2013 #5

I think the left has an up hill battle. Big corp money isnt going to help a progressive. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #3

I think big corp money will get behind a winner. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #11

With respect I think you have it backwards. Corporate dollars make winners. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #18

Not saying that I think your thought process is flawed.... NCTraveler Nov 2013 #20

Why should they, really, every other post here is a "Corporate money is vile" post. Who wants libdem4life Nov 2013 #34

I hear what you are saying but I just have a hard time with the bad cop / worse cop choices we rhett o rick Nov 2013 #38

I get it. But how else do you do a Two-Party System? We don't have a Parliament. Somehow, someway libdem4life Nov 2013 #39

I am one of those MattBaggins Nov 2013 #6

Actually, LWolf Nov 2013 #9

Mine too. Chan790 Nov 2013 #15

Hell Yeah! LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #23

If Hillary runs or not is yet to be seen. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #12

What do you make of the fact that Chelsea said her mom needs rest. Laelth Nov 2013 #14

No insight on that. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #16

Thanks for the thoughtful response. Laelth Nov 2013 #17

Spot on. Indeed we do. Laelth Nov 2013 #13

It would pretty hard to find anyone to the right of Hillary to challenge her. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #24

Good. HijackedLabel Nov 2013 #26

Hillary's husband, Zell Biller will not be a positive for her. Whisp Nov 2013 #36

Yes, I do! bigwillq Nov 2013 #27

Warren For President 2016 cantbeserious Nov 2013 #28

Hear, hear! Laelth Nov 2013 #29

Thanks for the tip BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #35

Sweet! Laelth Nov 2013 #37

This says it all. Laelth Nov 2013 #30

Hillary's "inevitability" will stick this time. karadax Nov 2013 #31

Please ... daggahead Nov 2013 #32

Some of us on the left wants to wait until after 2014 to worry about Pres. candidates. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #33

Then some of you can wait BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #42

Before we anoint Warren the Progressive President, perhaps we could ask her to put her name on the libdem4life Nov 2013 #40

Here's an idea out of left field...how about Beausoir Nov 2013 #41