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zappaman

(20,605 posts)
216. I don't find JFK's assassination or anything about it a "source of amusement"
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 03:44 PM
Nov 2013

You obsession however...?

I have always felt that Oswald was a set up. gopiscrap Nov 2013 #1
And you reached that conclusion after reading the Warren Commission Report, right? stopbush Nov 2013 #15
after reading all sorts of stuff gopiscrap Nov 2013 #16
Translation: NO, I have never read the WCR. stopbush Nov 2013 #20
arrogant much? grasswire Nov 2013 #54
So, let me get this straight: stopbush Nov 2013 #57
Where does it say he hasn't read it? You know what they say about people who make assumptions.... madmom Nov 2013 #81
I have actually read it twice gopiscrap Nov 2013 #85
there's an old saying.... RussBLib Nov 2013 #84
Trust me, it sounds less arrogant in the original Klingon. stopbush Nov 2013 #218
The only person who claims the poster hasn't read it is YOU. RetroLounge Nov 2013 #130
Impossible, superior lifeforms do not apologize to mental mendicants. Rex Nov 2013 #237
Are you saying...? zappaman Nov 2013 #239
Totally. Rex Nov 2013 #248
Seems to be the only way that one can communicate with others. Rex Nov 2013 #236
ah actually I have read it twice. gopiscrap Nov 2013 #68
I'm inclined to suggest that SheilaT Nov 2013 #220
Sylvia Meagher Bobcat Nov 2013 #77
Interesting. DanTex Nov 2013 #102
I hope someone knowledgeable here will answer your question. AmBlue Nov 2013 #118
John McAdams puts all the facts in one place. zappaman Nov 2013 #257
Thanks! AmBlue Nov 2013 #259
You're very welcome! zappaman Nov 2013 #260
Mary Ferrell org makes a good place to start... Octafish Nov 2013 #255
Thanks! AmBlue Nov 2013 #258
You are most welcome, AmBlue! Octafish Nov 2013 #261
I always thought Jack Ruby was the key Warpy Nov 2013 #27
Right. Ruby was diagnosed with cancer in Dec, 1966. stopbush Nov 2013 #32
You're welcome to your opinion Warpy Nov 2013 #35
It's not my "opinion" that Ruby was diagnosed with cancer in 1966. it's a fact. stopbush Nov 2013 #38
So what was Ruby's motive? MythosMaster Nov 2013 #83
All covered in the WCR and other fact-based accounts. stopbush Nov 2013 #110
The WCR and other unnamed "fact based" accounts... MythosMaster Nov 2013 #137
The official story is so hard to believe that it makes one look silly Rex Nov 2013 #171
I concur. MythosMaster Nov 2013 #188
Ruby was a Mafia operative. former9thward Nov 2013 #88
What a joke. Your proof for that claim? stopbush Nov 2013 #109
HSCA said Ruby had many key Mafia links. avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #132
I've often wondered about this question and answer... KansDem Nov 2013 #228
Ruby was one of LBJ's boys. roamer65 Nov 2013 #240
So let's smear LBJ in the process of being a birther, er, JFK CTist. stopbush Nov 2013 #244
What proof? former9thward Nov 2013 #142
He knew a couple Mafia guys. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #131
Ruby had serious Mafia connections to Ruby beyond the strip club. avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #133
He had even more police connections. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #135
No he did not have more police connections. former9thward Nov 2013 #143
His easy access to the DPD building HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #147
You are ignoring his mob history in Chicago. former9thward Nov 2013 #154
WTF? Someone else killed Cooke, he and Ruby were close friends. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #156
I wish the Chicago Tribune back issues were on line. former9thward Nov 2013 #159
Your source (that you don't link) is wrong. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #174
That I don't link???? former9thward Nov 2013 #180
You say the the WC didn't address many questions. I have a question for you: stopbush Nov 2013 #34
Yes, years ago Warpy Nov 2013 #36
Then you must be equipped to disprove the evidence offered in the WCR. stopbush Nov 2013 #39
interesting. i believe there were DesertFlower Nov 2013 #70
RFK Jr. said his father got the phone records of Ruby and Oswald KurtNYC Nov 2013 #72
Jack Ruby was a lone nut who killed a lone nut. There was no conspiracy and I think duffyduff Nov 2013 #145
The NYT Magazine article yesterday disputes Point #1. maxsolomon Nov 2013 #2
Maybe... Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2013 #4
Maybe... maxsolomon Nov 2013 #9
What we know about Chapman and Hinckley Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2013 #28
The way OJ bragged about killing his wife? stopbush Nov 2013 #42
Point Taken (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2013 #46
not really. It says Lee was controlling of Marina KurtNYC Nov 2013 #13
It has to do with Oswald's being "exceptional" Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2013 #30
Lee Harvey Oswald and David Ferrie were both in the Civil Air Patrol. factsarenotfair Nov 2013 #3
8 years earlier, when Oswald was 16. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #47
Judyth Baker puts them both together in New Orleans KurtNYC Nov 2013 #74
Judyth Baker is a nut job. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #79
Cancun? THAT's the part of her story that you call BS on?? KurtNYC Nov 2013 #93
Nope. zappaman Nov 2013 #95
I am believer that one canlearn more from those who disagree with them KurtNYC Nov 2013 #105
She's supposedly a super-gifted genius bio-chemist... HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #128
A good lie has a few truths sprinkled in to make it believable. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #97
lol. When point number 1 is as baldfaced as this, I don't need to read the rest. Schema Thing Nov 2013 #5
+1 zappaman Nov 2013 #7
Yep. Count Kurt among the uninformed and easily duped. stopbush Nov 2013 #8
#1 is way off base. All the other points are accurate, but unimportant given the CIA admission. ieoeja Nov 2013 #40
Oswald's CIA 201 file is NOT a personnel record. stopbush Nov 2013 #45
Thanks! What I saw at the time said "personnel". I didn't delve into it because I find all of this ieoeja Nov 2013 #49
Oswalds father died before he was born. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #53
An "expert marksmen". former9thward Nov 2013 #98
Your name wouldn't happen to be Richard, would it? n/t ieoeja Nov 2013 #99
I guess that is an inside joke because I don't get it. former9thward Nov 2013 #100
Oswald never attained the rank of Expert shooter in the Marines. stopbush Nov 2013 #112
Thru the maple trees? FogerRox Nov 2013 #121
Let's see you make those three shots in that time period. former9thward Nov 2013 #141
I couldn't, but plenty of people have made those shots, with accuracy stopbush Nov 2013 #152
Ohh, plenty of people. former9thward Nov 2013 #158
Try reading the WCR - you might not come off as such a fool. stopbush Nov 2013 #187
When you have to resort to name calling you lose. former9thward Nov 2013 #190
And do you go through life believing every cheap bromide out there? stopbush Nov 2013 #195
No, I like RFK rejected the Warren Report. former9thward Nov 2013 #196
Wrong again. stopbush Nov 2013 #197
No, I'm not wrong. His son said his father had a different view in private. former9thward Nov 2013 #198
Do we have evidence of RFK saying this? zappaman Nov 2013 #200
Well, I guess it is too late to ask him. former9thward Nov 2013 #201
Do you have evidence his son is telling the truth? n/t zappaman Nov 2013 #203
Do you have evidence his son is a liar? former9thward Nov 2013 #209
You mean Mr Anti-vaccination himself, RFK Jr? stopbush Nov 2013 #204
So his son is a liar according to you. former9thward Nov 2013 #208
Guess so, since as you can see clearly see zappaman Nov 2013 #210
From the link. former9thward Nov 2013 #211
Liar isn't the right word. stopbush Nov 2013 #215
Don't forget lack of evidence "proves" a conspiracy. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #129
No kidding. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #78
Just wondering... moondust Nov 2013 #6
Ever notice how the CTists find it "fishy" that the Dallas Police could nab Oswald so quickly stopbush Nov 2013 #24
Um, The Bombers Were on Video! Oswald Wasn't ProfessorGAC Nov 2013 #183
Oh, the DPD had plenty, especially as they were working with the Fed agencies from the get-go. stopbush Nov 2013 #189
While I never believed Oswald acted alone, something's fishy here. A Marine working on the U2??? Scuba Nov 2013 #10
He was assigned to Atsugi Air Force Base in Japan, home of the U2 spy plane. KurtNYC Nov 2013 #14
I was assigned to Andrews AFB, home of Air Force One. Doesn't mean I worked on it. Scuba Nov 2013 #29
You've never even met Harrison Ford... Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2013 #33
Actually, I did, but that's another story. Scuba Nov 2013 #37
Were you involved in air traffic control like Oswald was? nt hack89 Nov 2013 #51
He didn't "work" on the U2 hack89 Nov 2013 #50
Or getting to go to the USSR and come back as if nothing happened Rex Nov 2013 #167
And when, exactly, did you read the WCR? stopbush Nov 2013 #227
I'm sorry, but that is all you keep saying over and over again to people. Rex Nov 2013 #231
Only to people like you whose posts indicate they haven't read the WCR stopbush Nov 2013 #242
Most of those points oswaldactedalone Nov 2013 #11
By your user name there is nothing that could change your mind. former9thward Nov 2013 #94
Not true oswaldactedalone Nov 2013 #185
Um...no Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #12
And the award to most cogent comeback of the day goes to...Spider Jerusalem! randome Nov 2013 #17
Thanks for the factual corrective, not that it will change the minds of the easily duped. stopbush Nov 2013 #18
So Ruby wanted his dog found and cared for. KurtNYC Nov 2013 #21
That's what Ruby did say, after all. stopbush Nov 2013 #25
Ruby's own words regarding a conspiracy. zappaman Nov 2013 #26
Many issues with Howard Brennan's description and account KurtNYC Nov 2013 #19
Brennan didn't say he did. Try reading your own link. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #23
Oswald had no motive? stopbush Nov 2013 #117
Why did Ruby go to the police station armed with a pistol with every intent on coming back? Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #52
Because he went armed everywhere? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #59
Good question.. zappaman Nov 2013 #60
Ruby went to the police station several times after Oswald had been arrested as my post# 55 Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #69
Ruby went to the police station all the time. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #71
Yes Ruby associated with the police and the mafia and what do the cops do Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #73
... Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #75
Security was lax even for that day and age especially considering the prisoner they held. Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #96
Here are some other interesting tidbits about Ruby. Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #55
Here are some interesting tidbits about the Mafia and the CIA. Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #58
Which has exactly what to do with Oswald? Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #63
I'm not disputing that Oswald was the gun man. Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #103
He had connections to a Russian emigre in Dallas. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #107
Thats pretty much my impression. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #160
Thanks. n/t cynatnite Nov 2013 #122
Forget Oliver Stone, The Kentucky Fried Movie knew the score. JVS Nov 2013 #125
Great. So what's the alternative theory? nt nyquil_man Nov 2013 #22
Mere mystery mongering. longship Nov 2013 #31
Oswald was not unusual. heckles65 Nov 2013 #41
welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #91
It's not just history, either. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #44
I could not have said it better. nt longship Nov 2013 #61
Theres a whole lot of wrong in your post. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #43
The timing on the U2 stuff fits perfectly and is not disputed. KurtNYC Nov 2013 #87
I never read the WC report either maindawg Nov 2013 #48
Wrong on the facts, my friend. stopbush Nov 2013 #56
The Warren Commission deaniac21 Nov 2013 #62
as you can CLEARLY see... zappaman Nov 2013 #64
Bush or Don Draper. Hard to tell from that old photo. :) stopbush Nov 2013 #113
Yes: "I believe that Kennedy was murdered for the same reason and by the same people who murdered... villager Nov 2013 #127
America Declassified MFM008 Nov 2013 #65
"a flash and smoke"? zappaman Nov 2013 #67
Is this the guy in the RR signal tower, Lee Bowers? KurtNYC Nov 2013 #104
Yes but, meanit Nov 2013 #108
Albert Schweitzer College & the L'Abri Fellowship MinM Nov 2013 #66
AP story linking Lee Harvey Oswald with Jack Ruby MinM Nov 2013 #256
one fact the lone gunman conspirators wont touch reddread Nov 2013 #76
What about him? zappaman Nov 2013 #80
yeah, you really cant cope with his relationships. reddread Nov 2013 #86
What about him? n/t zappaman Nov 2013 #89
you must be happy to see me reddread Nov 2013 #90
Not sure what you're saying, so maybe you are confused. zappaman Nov 2013 #92
stop toying with him, that's mean. dionysus Nov 2013 #111
That he smelled bad in Zurich? Rex Nov 2013 #191
Wow. A new level of idiocy, even for the JFK CTists. stopbush Nov 2013 #119
you got me reddread Nov 2013 #120
It's no great feat to get you. But truth is more important here at DU than your BS. stopbush Nov 2013 #123
The lone gunman CANNOT be a conspiracy NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #101
a group of people propping a cover story for all their worth is reddread Nov 2013 #106
Move along folks, nothing to see here ... former9thward Nov 2013 #82
OK, I'll bite Retrograde Nov 2013 #114
He has to be driven everywhere or take the bus KurtNYC Nov 2013 #136
He had feet, didn't he? Retrograde Nov 2013 #175
FACT: Policeman ID'd Oswald having a Coke in the lunch room about a minute after the shootings. Octafish Nov 2013 #115
and Victoria Adams and Sandra Stiles use the same set of stairs that Oswald would have KurtNYC Nov 2013 #139
Accidental History:The Girl on the Stairs by Barry Ernest Octafish Nov 2013 #140
Actually 74-90 seconds....so more than a minute. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #148
That must be why I said ''about'' and said 90 seconds in the post. Picture this... Octafish Nov 2013 #150
Nothing in the diagram excludes him as the shooter. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #155
Right. The diagram is to show how how far the Warren Commission goes to pin it on Oswald. Octafish Nov 2013 #163
What's so difficult in traversing that distance in a minute and a half? stopbush Nov 2013 #219
Aha! zappaman Nov 2013 #221
And yet another Octafish JFK CT "fact" bites the dust. eom stopbush Nov 2013 #224
Actually no... zappaman Nov 2013 #225
Minsk is not a snowy hellhole. At least not by Soviet standards. JVS Nov 2013 #116
IMO the biggest cause of CTs treestar Nov 2013 #124
This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Nov 2013 #126
11. There's solid evidence of Oswald being a CIA tool. bluedeathray Nov 2013 #134
Motive: he was a Russian agent. Rex Nov 2013 #138
The Russians wouldn't have him. The Cubans wouldn't have him. The CIA wouldn't have him. duffyduff Nov 2013 #146
Thats pretty much it. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #149
That sounds like an outrageous conspiracy. Rex Nov 2013 #165
Sure right, that is actually far less believable. Rex Nov 2013 #162
Nobody admits to associating with their agents. JVS Nov 2013 #170
The desperation to push him as a 'lone wolf' looks absurd so many decades later. Rex Nov 2013 #172
Its where all evidence points. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #176
So where is your mountain of proof? You provide nothing. Rex Nov 2013 #179
What kind of Russian agent gets trained in a toaster factory? HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #151
How do you know that is what they were doing? Rex Nov 2013 #164
I agree Oswalds case is unusual. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #181
Well you go on and believe what the USSR wanted you to believe. Rex Nov 2013 #232
No case has been more examined and picked over. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #234
"What American goes to the USSR during the height of the Cold War, comes back like nothing happened" JVS Nov 2013 #168
Yes maybe a double agent. Rex Nov 2013 #169
I agree. When someone performs an assassination, there's little incentive for his... JVS Nov 2013 #173
Theres a tremendous amount of evidence he was a loner and loser. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #177
None what so ever. None. Rex Nov 2013 #178
Lots of misinformation and falsehoods in that post. duffyduff Nov 2013 #144
If you want to believe that Ruby shot Oswald and spent the rest of his life in prison KurtNYC Nov 2013 #157
For fucks sake, people murder for a lot less reasons. You people.... Logical Nov 2013 #161
Yeah and you people crack me up. Rex Nov 2013 #166
Yeah, John Wilkes Booth didn't do it either. cbdo2007 Nov 2013 #153
LOL, thats how silly the CTists sound. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #182
While I Can't Completely Disagree... ProfessorGAC Nov 2013 #184
The CTs generally fall into 2 categories... HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #186
Zapruder believed the fatal head shot came from behind him KurtNYC Nov 2013 #193
and he's an expert in what??? cbdo2007 Nov 2013 #249
Did John Wilkes Booth act alone? JVS Nov 2013 #192
Actually, no, but that's a whole different topic Retrograde Nov 2013 #194
He and a handful of conspirators.....yet many believed, and still do, that the leaders of the South cbdo2007 Nov 2013 #250
George DeMohrenschildt was friends with Oswald and Poppy Bush Octafish Nov 2013 #199
How do you know Bush and DeMohrenschildt were friends? zappaman Nov 2013 #202
Bush's name, kids' names, personal info was in De Mohrenschildt's address book. Octafish Nov 2013 #205
George DeMohrenschildt knew the Bouvier family when Jackie Kennedy was a child zappaman Nov 2013 #206
Yeah. Interesting how you find that a source of amusement, zappaman. Octafish Nov 2013 #214
I don't find JFK's assassination or anything about it a "source of amusement" zappaman Nov 2013 #216
And they were such good friends Bush refused to help him. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #217
Since deM and Bush were both in petroleum business HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #212
Right on Camballo Nov 2013 #207
Does Bugliosi explain why John Connally contradicts the Magic Bullet theory? KurtNYC Nov 2013 #222
Here's what I found regarding the Connally perception v. the single bullet evidence Camballo Nov 2013 #226
I started this thread to talk about why the large majority doubt parts of the WCR KurtNYC Nov 2013 #229
"Any valid theory of the assassination must account for ALL of the evidence" zappaman Nov 2013 #230
Any exception to a theory or hypothesis, disproves the hypothesis. KurtNYC Nov 2013 #241
Oops... Camballo Nov 2013 #238
Actually, Connally was correct in thinking he had been hit by the second bullet fired. stopbush Nov 2013 #245
Wow this proves Springslips Nov 2013 #213
Conspiracy theories: stopbush Nov 2013 #223
Too funny! Rex Nov 2013 #233
Anti-intellectuals Springslips Nov 2013 #263
Nixon to multiple aides on Jack Ruby. roamer65 Nov 2013 #235
Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2013 #243
#2 is pretty funny undeterred Nov 2013 #246
And Oswald never regained consciousness after Ruby shot him. stopbush Nov 2013 #247
"1. No Motive." Oswald was a strange man, with a history of strange behavior. It is unrealistic struggle4progress Nov 2013 #251
Fool me once, maybe, but seven times? Forget it. ucrdem Nov 2013 #252
1 & 2: Aside from Oswald, assassins and attempted assassins of politicians have known motives, KurtNYC Nov 2013 #253
11. Forget the physical evidence. BootinUp Nov 2013 #254
I was 7 in 1963 and Holly_Hobby Nov 2013 #262
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