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Ikonoklast

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59. Not in the least. From the perspective of those that benefit, it is a huge success.

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 05:10 PM

Nov 2013

LEO's get to buy APC's and other nifty toys, private jails get filled and corporations make huge profits, judges get bribed to find every kid guilty, drug cartels literally print money.

The rest of us lose our civil liberties a little with each passing day.

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How shooting an Unarmed 13yr old Boy became legal [View all] FreakinDJ Nov 2013 OP

Interesting stuff - TBF Nov 2013 #1

The Patriot Act is a great boogeyman, but the realy culprit is the Drug War beerandjesus Nov 2013 #3

Prohibition is a failed public policy. nt TeamPooka Nov 2013 #36

Not in the least. From the perspective of those that benefit, it is a huge success. Ikonoklast Nov 2013 #59

I speak for the general citizenry not the special interests. TeamPooka Nov 2013 #60

The suspension of Citizen's Rights is disturbing FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #12

I agree. nt TBF Nov 2013 #31

Cops have virtually been given carte blanche to do anything they want LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #2

ngasd. loli phabay Nov 2013 #4

True BlueinOhio Nov 2013 #8

That's awful. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #10

Can't wait for this to be applied to CCW Holders FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #11

Yeah, we have a police state... ReRe Nov 2013 #14

Excellent advice. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #22

Oh, well.... ReRe Nov 2013 #24

Well, I guess email and instant messages don't count. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #25

What is proper procedure when someone points an apparently real weapon at a cop? Orrex Nov 2013 #5

+1 B Calm Nov 2013 #6

They are now being directed to shoot first FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #9

Bullshit!!!! Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #18

You can't really believe that FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #20

You are being intellectually dishonest Orrex Nov 2013 #28

Your not liking the article makes it no less truthful FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #30

Citation, please Orrex Nov 2013 #32

I know and believe that for a fact. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #37

Are you calling me or the author a liar FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #39

I'm calling the author a liar, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #40

Even Gelhaus's own writings FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #44

Perceived threat is not shoot first and ask questions later, despite what he may think, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #46

No your just Wrong FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #48

You couldn't be more wrong, just as this so called lawyer is wrong. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #49

glad to see you are coming around questionseverything Nov 2013 #53

Citation, please Orrex Nov 2013 #51

Deadly Force Authorized For Any Perceived Threat FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #64

In other words, you don't have a citation Orrex Nov 2013 #70

Wow - Major Denial Issues FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #71

How so? Orrex Nov 2013 #74

LOL, explain shooting all the dogs. nt Logical Nov 2013 #35

I don't have to explain anything, I wasn't there for any of them Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #38

Ok, your a cop. Makes sense now. Nt Logical Nov 2013 #41

I tried to PM you but unfortunately every time I click o My Inbox, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #45

Yes, there are cops who think like that Scootaloo Nov 2013 #54

You make very good points, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #55

Disagree all you like, it's the truth Scootaloo Nov 2013 #57

It's much better at the federal level Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #58

So your a cop saying the attorney who investigates cops FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #42

He's a liar if he's saying that police policy is to shoot first and ask questions later. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #43

and yet we see it over & over questionseverything Nov 2013 #56

I thought I smelled bacon in this thread. VADem1980 Nov 2013 #63

Real classy. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #67

Also, bacon is awesome. Orrex Nov 2013 #72

Absolutely, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #73

man just walk away from it, your talking to zealots there is no point. loli phabay Nov 2013 #65

Of course you're right, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #66

its just not worth it. loli phabay Nov 2013 #68

Your right, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #69

Citation, please Orrex Nov 2013 #26

From the above linked article FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #29

You are misreading that citation, either deliberately or carelessly Orrex Nov 2013 #33

Then what is a "Waist Band Shooting" FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #47

It's a term apparently coined by the author of the article Orrex Nov 2013 #50

I suggest close examination of the situation and prayer. bemildred Nov 2013 #19

Ever since 9-11 The Wizard Nov 2013 #7

Do they even recognize a statistic called "UN-justifiable homicide"? BlueStreak Nov 2013 #13

Exactly - the FBI considers ALL police shootings Justified FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #16

UN-justifiable homicide is usually called hooptie Nov 2013 #27

And how often do police investigete themselves and come to that conclusion? BlueStreak Nov 2013 #34

This is an excellent article, thank you. mountain grammy Nov 2013 #15

The NRA is the New KKK FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #17

the entire Republican Party is the new KKK. mountain grammy Nov 2013 #21

This is going to escalate very badly FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #23

THIS needs to be changed. Th1onein Nov 2013 #52

Unfortunitly by Law kept secret to protect the police officer FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #61

No, I can't think of many things more disturbing than that. Th1onein Nov 2013 #62