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22. I do remember a story about some toy breed, I believe, attacking its disabled owner while he slept.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 05:21 PM
Nov 2013

I don't think this changes the fact that dogs bred to attack without warning (which is how dog fighting works) are more likely to attack without warning.

The people who argue that their pit bull would never attack like that because she's a "sweetie pie" are ignoring that animal instincts can overpower a normally gentle-seeming nature. That's why no dog of any breed should be left alone with an infant. That's why good dog owners don't startle their pets, don't mess with their food when they're eating, don't corner them, etc. They don't rely on a dog's good nature in these situations; instead they acknowledge the real risk of instinctive behaviors kicking in. As for the dog that attacked its owner as he slept - who knows what bizarre instinct was activated for that to happen?

The dog in this story was not neutered. The pit bull lobbyists on here will argue that this was the sole reason for its aggressive behavior. I wholeheartedly agree that leaving the dog intact was a huge risk factor. But so is the fact that the dog is of a breed that was created for the purpose of attacking and fighting.

ETA - Sorry, the unneutered pit bull was from another link in this thread, not the OP story.

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What a ghastly and yesphan Nov 2013 #1
But of course pit bulls are no more dangerous than any other dog. OregonBlue Nov 2013 #2
Of course they are. avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #4
Your chihuahua would eat your hands too. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #5
My Chihuahua would eat any stranger's hamds RebelOne Nov 2013 #24
or if your hands are very tiny Enrique Nov 2013 #53
but that is exactly the point 4 t 4 Nov 2013 #58
For the most part they aren't. They may be somewhat more dangerous than average nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #76
I have two female German Shepherds and they both are extremely protective of me Packerowner740 Nov 2013 #79
And I assume they've been properly trained and socialized, which is why you trust them. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #83
Yes they have. They will walk beside me off a leash as well as on the leash. Packerowner740 Nov 2013 #103
I find the attempt to blame the breed as a whole similar to the concept of... krispos42 Nov 2013 #94
This message was self-deleted by its author avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #3
Horrific!!!!! get the red out Nov 2013 #6
They are dependable. avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #7
Unaltered?! That is not a rescuer. roody Nov 2013 #28
Anyone give it thought that the woman may have abused the dog? Avalux Nov 2013 #8
Or her skirt was too small or something... AngryAmish Nov 2013 #10
All possibilities should be considered. Avalux Nov 2013 #12
Lots of abused dogs get adopted and then cause problems for their new owners. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2013 #15
I do remember a story about some toy breed, I believe, attacking its disabled owner while he slept. Nine Nov 2013 #22
those stories exist TorchTheWitch Nov 2013 #38
+1 nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #77
Yeah, and when you think about that.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #32
Our daughter and son-in-law had to give back a rescue just this month. phylny Nov 2013 #36
at our rescue facilities, pit bulls are by far the most common breed up for adoption Sheepshank Nov 2013 #49
In a way it is like adopting "problem" children with disabilities, behavioral issues, etc. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #78
REALLY- SHE LOST HER HANDS !! 4 t 4 Nov 2013 #60
sick- SHE LOST HER HANDS 4 t 4 Nov 2013 #63
Actually she might have been to easy with it Marrah_G Nov 2013 #29
when we first brought home my husband's guide dog, he was a year and a half old. Our son liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #70
Awesome :) Marrah_G Nov 2013 #72
I recently got a female german shepherd, two months old when we got her Packerowner740 Nov 2013 #81
The few dog training shows I have watched 4 t 4 Nov 2013 #59
This kind of moronic thinking leads to abuse & CREATES aggressive dogs. baldguy Nov 2013 #74
Ugh. I'll bet it had a charming name, though. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2013 #9
"Tuxedo" Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2013 #16
Unpredictable seveneyes Nov 2013 #11
I read threads like this and I have to wonder jazzimov Nov 2013 #13
I think it's ignoring science to insist that breeds don't have different instinctive behaviors. Nine Nov 2013 #17
Otherwise intelligent and decent people have deceived themselves into denial of this, y'know. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #23
Yes and no get the red out Nov 2013 #40
Unfortunately, it seems that pit bulls do have mass movements at the ready, including online. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #42
I agree with you get the red out Nov 2013 #43
I have to wonder what lies underneath this aberration. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #46
Science says the most reliable predictor of dog aggression is NOT the breed. baldguy Nov 2013 #41
Those are risk factors to be sure. Nine Nov 2013 #45
What's preposterous is to falsely characterize millions of gentle, loving canine campanions baldguy Nov 2013 #57
I don't think it's so much about characterizing 4 t 4 Nov 2013 #61
It is about characterizing. This is the primary goal of the disingenuous anti-Pt Bull posters. baldguy Nov 2013 #65
Larger dogs in general (50+ lbs.) make me nervous. It's not breed-specific. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #80
What's a pit bull, exactly? Orrex Nov 2013 #98
They are here to serve Humans. BlueJazz Nov 2013 #99
Sorry , I think you're wrong 4 t 4 Nov 2013 #64
Why did the cops visit in July? Why did they force the owner to get a temporary license? baldguy Nov 2013 #67
Yep. I have terriers. MADem Nov 2013 #52
Exactly! Thank YOU! LostOne4Ever Nov 2013 #37
Mass media hysteria is something that should always be questioned, at the least. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #82
I'm glad no one has used the phrase "biting the hand that feeds you" on this thread. Captain Stern Nov 2013 #14
LOL, dinner came early Left2Tackle Nov 2013 #31
omg, that is not funny for a second 4 t 4 Nov 2013 #62
It was just nannying the hand alcibiades_mystery Nov 2013 #18
"likely"? scheming daemons Nov 2013 #19
"police have not questioned Murray about what happened" "dogs head being tested for rabies" uppityperson Nov 2013 #20
Why do you hate freedom? Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #25
mainly because half the people I was with believed it until I explained the situation to them uppityperson Nov 2013 #26
Seems like to some Americans, the most important right is the right to be stupid and ignorant. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #85
the dog ate her hands Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #33
That the attack happened solely because of the dog's breed. A lot of folks seem to jump to that one. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #84
The article does not specify whether the dog was an unneutered male. KamaAina Nov 2013 #21
Now, hold on there. Let's not let facts get in the way of a good bit of sensationalized hysteria. baldguy Nov 2013 #39
Not disagreeing, but the only dog that ever seriously "menaced" me was a post-partum nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #86
holy shit! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #27
That's why I always carry a nice juicy T-Bone with me. Left2Tackle Nov 2013 #30
Those dogs cannot be domesticated" - Grieving dad ecstatic Nov 2013 #34
"Likely" + "imagination" = kneejerkery flvegan Nov 2013 #35
Murray lost all of one arm and the other up to the elbow in the attack, and suffered bite wounds all kenny blankenship Nov 2013 #50
I think by "knee-jerkery" he meant blaming the attack on the dog's breed and nothing else... nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #87
while pitbulls are prone to be aggressive towards other dogs, they are bred to be great to owners La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #44
"They're bred to be great to owners." IrishAyes Nov 2013 #47
small dogs bite more than big ones do. Big dogs just do more damage when they do bite. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #51
No amount of verbiage will dilute the fact that big dogs bred to fight are more likely to succumb to IrishAyes Nov 2013 #55
So do you think German shepherds, Dobermans, Rottweilers, should be banned as well? nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #88
True. I have owned two pit bulls and two Rottweilers RebelOne Nov 2013 #66
My Pit Bull is deathly afraid of little aggressive dogs. baldguy Nov 2013 #68
Often it isn't a single dog, alot of times its a pack Marrah_G Nov 2013 #54
something was clearly either physically or psychologically wrong with this particular dog. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #48
Rule #1 of pet ownership Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #56
i thought she was smart, getting under the car. she survived. i lived across from a man seabeyond Nov 2013 #71
Dog Bite statistics tell us pit bulls and rottweilers are dangerous. OregonBlue Nov 2013 #73
DogsBite.org is a notorious anti-Pit Bull site full of deliberate lies & misinformation. baldguy Nov 2013 #75
Are you saying that pit bulls and rottweilers don't account for the vast majority of attacks? OregonBlue Nov 2013 #92
No, they don't. baldguy Nov 2013 #95
There are dozens of sites with links Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2013 #93
And you're the worst of the anti-Pit Bull dog haters. baldguy Nov 2013 #96
You are a poor a judge of people as you are dogs. Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2013 #100
And your wish for unwarranted genocide is an indication of your character. baldguy Nov 2013 #102
so the dog was unlicensed and likely not vaccinated for rabies magical thyme Nov 2013 #69
He got probation for first-degree robbery? Sorry to go off-topic, but am I reading that right? nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #89
yup, that's how I read it. 5 year suspended sentence magical thyme Nov 2013 #91
On the one hand, I don't really blame people for responding irrationally to such a horrible, lurid nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #90
I refuse to believe that this happened until we see the dog's DNA Orrex Nov 2013 #97
unless, they rescue a family from a housefire iwillalwayswonderwhy Nov 2013 #101
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