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46. I was in the 7th grade in November 1963-here are some facts to which I haven't found answers to this

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 05:10 PM

Nov 2013

very day.
#1 Lee Harvey Oswald, a "former" US Marine, winds up in the USSR during the height of the Cold War
#2 He marries a "niece" of a USSR military intelligence officer
#3 Both of them are permitted to come to the USA
#4 They find "support" in a White Russian community filled with intelligence operatives
#5 Oswald is involved in the opposition to the extreme RW Cuban exile community
#6 Oswald, a "defector" gets employment that required some type of security clearance via the White Russian community (Jaggars, Chiles, Stovall)
Even back then kids my age questioned HOW could these things be possible. Our teachers, many of them veterans of WWII and Korea (GI Bill) had some logical ideas they shared about several "intelligence" communities operating during the Cold War. What you cite as facts are disputable.

Do you have substantive answers as to how some of what I have never been able to find out could possibly have happened, something beyond your "no conspiracies" formula of denial?

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10 Facts About Lee Oswald That 70% of Americans Must Not Understand [View all] Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 OP

Facts? What difference do facts make? longship Nov 2013 #1

What I love is that no one can even settle on what conspiracy is real... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #4

D'ya know that Ruby was a Mafia wannabe? longship Nov 2013 #5

Less !! and more facts MIGHT make a cogent post HangOnKids Nov 2013 #8

You forgot Nixon and the Illuminati Bucky Nov 2013 #13

Sort of true billhicks76 Nov 2013 #14

Very well stated. Did you ever read Stephen King's book 11/22/63? Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #2

Stephen King once wrote Berlin Expat Nov 2013 #16

That's the same reason for 9/11 conspiracies. Dash87 Nov 2013 #23

Yes, I did. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #17

Gee, you did give it a grand ole try.......not interested HangOnKids Nov 2013 #3

Thank you for your time. n/t Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #15

It's not that they can't understand... zappaman Nov 2013 #34

lol nt BootinUp Nov 2013 #91

You're wrong... SidDithers Nov 2013 #25

EVERY respect. n/t zappaman Nov 2013 #30

Too bad she won't see my reply tho... SidDithers Nov 2013 #31

!!! zappaman Nov 2013 #32

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You must be so proud. Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #52

To be ignored by MaryT / Binka / HangonKids? Abso-fucking-lutely...nt SidDithers Nov 2013 #60

Gee Sid How Is That Vendetta Working Out For You? HangOnKids Nov 2013 #83

Deny it. Go on... SidDithers Nov 2013 #84

Deny What Sid? HangOnKids Nov 2013 #85

You've given documentary evidence that you have an unhealthy stalking fetish. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #86

An Unhealthy Stalking Fetish HangOnKids Nov 2013 #87

Tell it to the twice banned zombie... SidDithers Nov 2013 #88

Maybe you could take that concern to the ATA? HangOnKids Nov 2013 #95

Sid, you have to be THE inspector gadget of all time on DU. Whisp Apr 2014 #98

Heheh... SidDithers Apr 2014 #99

LOL, make believe is fun! n-t Logical Nov 2013 #58

unbelievable putitinD Nov 2013 #6

I think, simply, the biggest issue is The Straight Story Nov 2013 #7

Government secrecy is a cancer on our society, no doubt. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #18

I guess I never knew Kennedy read that BootinUp Nov 2013 #93

I don't know that Kennedy did, but it's possible he was the first. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #94

I think you are right. Much of the conspiracy theory around the JKF assassination that comes from Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #9

Got a problem with "the left" Doug? HangOnKids Nov 2013 #10

I would suggest you take a quick look at my journal and my previous posts - over the past several Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #11

That's kind of bullying tone you're striking there. Bucky Nov 2013 #12

Bullying? McCarthy? HangOnKids Nov 2013 #21

JFK was no dove's dove, but he was no hawk's hawk either. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #19

I pretty much agree. He was pretty close to the middle of the cold war bipartisan pre-Vietnam, Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #20

Amen! Springslips Nov 2013 #22

DU rec... SidDithers Nov 2013 #24

Fact Botany Nov 2013 #26

The fragments of bullet found in Kennedy's brain Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #36

I tend to believe the late Sen. Ralph Yarborough who was a WW II combat vet. Botany Nov 2013 #37

Handwaving the physical evidence doesn't make it go away. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #43

That depends on whether you interpret Zapruder frame 313 nyquil_man Nov 2013 #42

Fact: it did Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #89

I don't remember if it was Pierre Sallnger or Arthur Schlesinger Jr. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2013 #27

That is likely true of the believers of the faith. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #77

It was William Manchester. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #92

People can't handle the truth. Herbacious Nov 2013 #28

thanks to you reddread Nov 2013 #54

Kick and Rec! zappaman Nov 2013 #29

You left out who really did it... zappaman Nov 2013 #33

You know it was really aliens. REP Nov 2013 #38

zappaman: 'I don't find JFK's assassination or anything about it a ''source of amusement''' Octafish Nov 2013 #40

Once again putting words into my mouth, Octafish? zappaman Nov 2013 #41

I've read a buncha these threads, Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #59

It seems like the BFEE is responsible for everything that goes wrong in the world. zappaman Nov 2013 #62

But, but, what does it stand for??? n/t Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #64

Bush Family Evil Empire. Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #71

Thanks!!! Whew! n/t Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #74

The BFEE are guilty of so much... HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #78

Just went through some of the old threads, Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #79

An oilman in Texas? Thats VERY suspicious. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #80

You seem to be obsessed too. notadmblnd Nov 2013 #76

Thank you for truth and common sense. duffyduff Nov 2013 #39

They're not facts..."precludes any conspiracy theories"...at best it's interpretation...nt joeybee12 Nov 2013 #44

All of the statements under those items are facts. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #45

No, it's not a fact...sorry... joeybee12 Nov 2013 #48

Feel free to substitute one of the several facts under each item to make up the count. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #67

I was in the 7th grade in November 1963-here are some facts to which I haven't found answers to this bobthedrummer Nov 2013 #46

Would you accept the answers, even if they were substantive? nyquil_man Nov 2013 #49

I have substantive answers to all of those points but grantcart Nov 2013 #51

Here's the thing, bobthedrummer: none of those change the facts about the assassination. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #55

I wonder... nyquil_man Nov 2013 #47

If only the head shot had missed... Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #65

I've always wondered, too, nyquil_man Nov 2013 #81

Very Good Observation frank1fm Jan 2014 #97

The fact remains.... Ken Burch Nov 2013 #50

... nyquil_man Nov 2013 #53

Oh I did the search, I found this: Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #61

Isn't it interesting that he never said anything like that during his lifetime? nyquil_man Nov 2013 #63

You mean the 5 years before he was assassinated by the improbable Sirhan? Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #66

But he was 'offed' anyway. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #68

They didn't kill Ted, they wrecked his career. Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #70

Who are they? nyquil_man Nov 2013 #72

You are completely wrong about the head wound. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #75

The shooters on the grassy knoll were male models. uppityperson Nov 2013 #56

Thanks for the great post!! n-t Logical Nov 2013 #57

I think just about everyone over the age of perhaps 10 in 1963 Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #69

Bugliosi's volume might be too long and too detailed for some. duffyduff Nov 2013 #73

Jim Moore's book was one of the worst pieces of disinformation I've ever spent 5 minutes over. Zen Democrat Nov 2013 #82

Nicely presented. nt BootinUp Nov 2013 #90

Warren Commission a cover up yet no one has ever read it. frank1fm Jan 2014 #96