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LooseWilly

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19. I suspect that optimistic projections were only a part of the problem- can you say RDA?
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 08:10 PM
Nov 2013

Not surprisingly, a quick search on the city of Desert Hot Springs reveals that they had a ReDevelopment Agency in place.

http://www.cityofdhs.org/RDA_Documents

And, what does an RDA do? It combats "urban blight" (and a city named Desert Hot Springs probably faced a "whole lot of" urban blight... but that's another issue entirely)... by designating zones of the city for redevelopment and then diverting the property tax dollars to build shopping mall infrastructures to draw retail business to town (bribe corporate entities to come and provide mostly minimum wage jobs and provide a boost on sales tax revenue... which is ostensibly "supposed to" offset all the property tax dollars that would otherwise go to the state in order to be pooled and then re-distributed back to local counties and municipalities)... and the RDAs then negotiate with these corporate entities to come up with terms to convince them to set up shop in these shopping centers, built to their specs in some cases.

It is unclear what sorts of tax breaks are further offered to the businesses in an effort to fill the malls.

What do you want to bet that the city needed to provide all those "expensive" city services (workers) largely in order to provide infrastructure and support for these corporate negotiation teams... all in pursuit of some sales tax dollars, while "investing" (squandering?) all those diverted tax dollars into what amounts to corporate subsidies... dollars which otherwise could've been distributed throughout the state?

And, as a corollary, how willing do you suppose a municipality would be to levy a tax rate that would actually support the services expected by these corporate tenants, in the face of the threat of them walking and leaving the RDA holding the bag for all the construction costs of all those shiny shopping mall would-be-corporate-bribes?

As an added bonus, in every case I've seen the RDA board has consisted exactly of the city council... who usually pay themselves a bonus rate for all the RDA meetings... though I haven't bothered with the 5 minutes of effort to confirm that in this particular case.

No, I don't think the public employees who negotiated a contract for their work, and now expect to have the city management & council pay the terms of those contracts... I don't think it is the employees that should be seen as the ones responsible for Desert Hot Springs' ... hot water.

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"burdensome salary and pension costs" KatyMan Nov 2013 #1
If cities mismanage their finances they will go bankrupt hack89 Nov 2013 #2
I suspect that optimistic projections were only a part of the problem- can you say RDA? LooseWilly Nov 2013 #19
The employees are not to blame hack89 Nov 2013 #20
Tax those corporate tenants... there's plenty of money there LooseWilly Nov 2013 #23
I doubt a small resort town has a lot of corporate tenants hack89 Nov 2013 #25
Walmart, McDonald's, TacoTown, etc... all probably live there somewhere LooseWilly Nov 2013 #27
So what percentage will you tax them at hack89 Nov 2013 #28
Exactly! It's the city's failure to set aside moneys for their contracted obligations SharonAnn Nov 2013 #29
budget messes are every where in the public sector beachbum bob Nov 2013 #3
The reason pension cost rose is because they upaloopa Nov 2013 #9
Well, technically... a defined benefit plan's cost can't "rise"... LooseWilly Nov 2013 #24
I work for a county government and am a SEIU upaloopa Nov 2013 #30
In some years past, maybe as far as decades Trillo Nov 2013 #4
Why don't you do some research on the subject upaloopa Nov 2013 #10
One of my landlords was a retired cop (probation officer), he also told the same story, Trillo Nov 2013 #13
That has nothing to do with pensions upaloopa Nov 2013 #15
That's not what I read, or was told, Trillo Nov 2013 #16
I am a government worker what I said is true upaloopa Nov 2013 #17
"Six figure pensions" Trillo Nov 2013 #18
Not under a typical pension system. haele Nov 2013 #12
Legalize and tax the herb! zappaman Nov 2013 #5
"burdensome salary and pension costs" usually means Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #6
All of these pensions were doable... ReverendDeuce Nov 2013 #7
+1 Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #21
Pensions are dangerous for a long term company. A lot of risk. nt Logical Nov 2013 #8
You know in 50's and 60's just about every worker had upaloopa Nov 2013 #11
Nope, a CFO plans for pensions, just as they plan for facilities and depreciation. haele Nov 2013 #14
when a company goes bellyup onethatcares Nov 2013 #22
How about fucking raising taxes gopiscrap Nov 2013 #26
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