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Mother Muckraker

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10. Tesla pay is ~ 1/2 of what NUMMI workers made.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 07:43 PM
Nov 2013

Tesla is already "undercutting union pay" by not having a union. It's not the location of the plant that determines pay. It's whether you have a collective bargaining agreement or not.

NUMMI UAW Local 2244 collective bargaining contract: start $20 after 3 yrs $28/hr w/ health 401k pension dental etc.
Tesla ~$20/hr top pay, starting pay is less.

Those figures with the addition of the benefits amount to Tesla paying their workers about 1/2 of what workers at NUMMI made.

This is done deliberately with the hiring of a union avoidance specialist (union buster) as head of Tesla HR. The hiring back of (exNUMMI) managers is done to keep workers from unionizing. It's a classic union busting tactic. The union busting at Tesla is simply an ongoing effort started at NUMMI. That's how companies keep wages low. When many companies do this en masse, overall middle class wages decline, while the "money saved" goes into the pockets of the rich and powerful.

The idea of electric cars replacing gas cars as the solution to climate change is a huge fallacy. This will not only NOT solve our climate crisis but in the short-term will accelerate global warming burning cheap dirty coal. The only way to stop global warming is to stop using energy. We have to take public transportation, bicycle and walk.

There's been a number of lies coming from Elon Musk. The $500 per month for a Model S, the 5.4-Star safest car ever rating, the promotion of non-GAAP figures to show "profit" when official GAAP figures show a loss, "5 times less likely to catch fire" after the 3rd fire, "we've hired 'hundreds' of exNUMMI workers" and more. These are the lies from a man who wants to make as much for himself as possible. Musk does not care about saving the earth as he has said so himself.

Tesla has produced only about 20,000 cars so far and this accident happens. This kind of thing would never happen at NUMMI even with a much higher production rate at over 400,000 cars/trucks per year. At Tesla, people are discouraged from reporting safety issues. At NUMMI, we had safety reporting forms that workers would fill out which sends out a safety rep from the company AND the union. That's why you unionize. That's why you re-hire experienced workers who know what they're doing.

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Three workers burned at Tesla plant [View all] Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 OP
That sounds pretty horrific. Oakenshield Nov 2013 #1
You really have a hard-on for Tesla. How come? Scuba Nov 2013 #2
Nice work! City Lights Nov 2013 #4
From the profile (which is kind of hard to decipher) giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #5
Definitely seems that way. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #20
What are you referring to? grantcart Nov 2013 #3
Of course not. KamaAina Nov 2013 #6
If you click on the OPs profile you will see that he was a former worker at the plant grantcart Nov 2013 #7
There is no denying that "Tesla is an important player in moving us from gas cars to electric". KamaAina Nov 2013 #8
The answer to that is obvious. Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #9
They did. grantcart Nov 2013 #12
Tesla pay is ~ 1/2 of what NUMMI workers made. Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #10
Your personal animus has left you with disconnected irrational statements. grantcart Nov 2013 #11
"The entire furniture industry moved from Chicago" KamaAina Nov 2013 #13
The American Furniture Mart in Chicago was the largest building in the world in 1923 grantcart Nov 2013 #16
Point by Point Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #26
NUMMI and Tesla... same building Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #19
Guess no one ever was injured on the job at NUMMI...oops, they had hundreds of injured Ikonoklast Nov 2013 #14
400,000 cars/year = repetitive strain injuries Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #18
I see. You have no problem with NUMMI not doing near enough to have prevented those injuries. Ikonoklast Nov 2013 #21
Repetitive strain can be minimized but not eliminated - actual stats on the production floor. Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #24
RSI injuries are no less likely at Tesla Travis_0004 Nov 2013 #28
installing ~500 seats vs ~83 seats Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #29
I doubt one person can install 500 seats a day. Travis_0004 Nov 2013 #32
I worked at NUMMI Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #33
Where the hell is Skittles? Skittles! lonestarnot Nov 2013 #15
State opens probe into Tesla plant injuries Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #17
Thank you for this. Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #22
Excuse me, do you mind a question? JackRiddler Nov 2013 #23
See sig for your answer & "full disclosure" of my "sole function" Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #25
I can agree with the union part... JackRiddler Nov 2013 #27
Are There Cockroaches Under Tesla's Hood? Mother Muckraker Nov 2013 #30
I just want to let you know I really appreciate your posts. Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #31
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