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SoCalDem

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Thu Nov 14, 2013, 07:17 AM Nov 2013

The saddest thing, is that none of the trauma of ACA had to occur [View all]

If ONLY our leaders had truly been interested in US, instead of making sure that the insurance companies had "new" customers to replace all of us Boomers who are FINALLY graduating into health CARE, instead of health INSURANCE.

Medicare is up and operating.. and knows who we all are, and how much money we make (see the FICA-box on your checks). They KNOW who is eligible for subsidies.

EVERYONE should have had the opportunity to enroll in Medicare, and pay proportionally by age/income.. and we would be DONE with the nonsense.

The insurance companies could still sell "add-on" policies, if they choose to....or they could sell their magnificent buildings, racing yachts ..and just be thankful for their 30 year pillage..

and their fat-cat CEO's could find a new way to make $100+ million a year salaries..

Gradually, the VA could be just for the specialized treatments so necessary, and vets could go to anyplace near them...and not have to drive such long distances for treatment.

Employers would no longer control employees through extortion -by-healthcare..

people could start businesses because their healthcare is not tied to their particular job..

companies might actually benefit too because they would not be wasting time & money haggling over care for their employees.. They could go back to hiring people to do a task, paying THEM the extra money they had been wasting .

The insurers have very dirty hands in the ACA.. They actively sabotaged the origins of the law, and then "magnanimously" agreed to participate only because they are the winners... and even then, they could not resist the temptation to meddle and undermine.

There are millions of 30-65 yr olds who would LOVE to be embraced by Medicare..and who would gladly pay premiums to the USA, instead of Aetna..(and all the others)_

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Medicare is still the payment system, not the care provider system IronLionZion Nov 2013 #1
Too many vets use the VA system because it;s all they can afford SoCalDem Nov 2013 #2
I blame congressional republicans! B Calm Nov 2013 #3
They are the culprits NOW, but when it was passed, we had house and senate SoCalDem Nov 2013 #4
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #6
Ask the citizens & you'll find otherwise. SoCalDem Nov 2013 #7
"Ask the citizens" ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #9
We do have term limits, it's called elections. B Calm Nov 2013 #10
not true rtracey Nov 2013 #14
I don't agree! B Calm Nov 2013 #17
Citizens are interested in good policy, republicans aren't uponit7771 Nov 2013 #21
Max Baucus is not a Republican SHRED Nov 2013 #13
The ACA was suppose to be simular to what you've INdemo Nov 2013 #5
It's not sad that a rollout isn't perfectly smooth. It could have been better, but the ancianita Nov 2013 #8
Thank You Senator Lieberman....NOT Billsmile Nov 2013 #11
Agreed. Kick. Rec. (nt) IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #12
Uh oh. I have Aetna Medicare Advantage now. ananda Nov 2013 #15
Advantage/supplementals are not a problem.. Medicare is your safety net SoCalDem Nov 2013 #22
No need to be sad. gulliver Nov 2013 #16
SCOTUS wrecked the Affordable Care Act. Conium Nov 2013 #18
How did SCOTUS hurt the MediCaid expansion? truedelphi Nov 2013 #30
They ruled that individual states could opt-out of the medicaid expansion SoCalDem Nov 2013 #33
Thanks for this important info. n/t truedelphi Nov 2013 #34
There are a lot of middle class people that work for health insurance companies. Dawgs Nov 2013 #19
Hwever if that is the function of the government - to throw subsidies into a program so truedelphi Nov 2013 #31
And that is what pisses me off about all of this. zeemike Nov 2013 #20
So there was some kind of magic wand that would have republicans voting for Single Payer> KittyWampus Nov 2013 #23
Not one Republican voted for the ACA as it is. So what do Republicans have to do with it? Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #25
Yeah. The power of public pressure leftstreet Nov 2013 #26
Medicare is not free, personally I'm better off on the Silver flamingdem Nov 2013 #24
I never said it was free.. But the inner-workings of the program are in place SoCalDem Nov 2013 #27
I've met a great deal of people who are on Medicare wanting to join the Marketplace... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #28
There are some sweet spots in ACA flamingdem Nov 2013 #29
Everything happens for a reason. I am willing to wait and see. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #32
Blame Baucus, Liandreau, Nelson, Lieberman and Repukes functioning_cog Nov 2013 #35
Ive totally missed the generation shift you describe in your first sentence. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #36
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