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In reply to the discussion: Why did so many #GunBullies need assault weapons to protest a lunch mtg of 4 @MomsDemand members in [View all]calimary
(91,196 posts)Good that you're here. You talk about throwing around numbers. "However, most of the pro-gun groups are using the real numbers, and the main reason there is so much feuding is that the numbers confirm their standpoint." That would be a reasonable argument provided there were studies that were allowed to be funded and conducted, hell, even allowed to be SPOKEN ABOUT or brought up in conversation at the statehouse, or in the nation's capitol. The NRA and other gun supporters and supporting groups have - pardon the pun - shot down EVERY attempt to study gun violence fully and comprehensively. We're not even allowed to bring it up. So whatever numbers the gun-lovers' side claims to have then must be taken with a grain of salt the size of the Rock of Gibraltar.
We don't HAVE all the numbers. Because we're not allowed to mount studies and well-funded investigations. Every time something's proposed, gun advocates start screaming about the Second Amendment - and how it always somehow seems to trump the First Amendment at the end. But we do have enough crime statistics that plainly show how large the murder rate by gunfire is in this country, compared to other countries where gun ownership is nowhere near so free and unrestricted.