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Romulox

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40. One of the major implications of gay marriage is, in fact, benefits bestowed by the Federal Gov't,

Thu Nov 14, 2013, 12:10 PM

Nov 2013

in the tax code and elsewhere. The "social" issue naturally flows right into the "fiscal" issue, such that the idea of Federally recognized gay marriage that does not include the same tax benefits as other marriages is a non-starter.

There's no distinction. Another example: a choice not to tax the rich is a choice to affirm the inequality and poverty that is endemic in our society. The choice not to tax is "fiscal", but the resulting suffering is "social". There is no real distinction.

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Elizabeth Warren is out of touch with the Democratic Party. [View all] kentuck Nov 2013 OP

Yep. That's why people like her NoOneMan Nov 2013 #1

Precisely. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #13

Yep. GreenPartyVoter Nov 2013 #26

Saw this on FB a couple of days ago HarveyDarkey Nov 2013 #2

She's not running Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #6

Would she run for VP? panader0 Nov 2013 #21

Neither was Obama in 2006. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #27

OK that is just creepy Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #10

I'll support the person who best represents my views Marrah_G Nov 2013 #3

Zing! Scuba Nov 2013 #4

I'm pretty sure if you polled Democrats they would agree with her on all those subjects but ok Ash_F Nov 2013 #5

Thanks for pointing that out Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #9

That is precisely the OP's point LondonReign2 Nov 2013 #42

at this time, I agree with you.... mike_c Nov 2013 #7

The Democratic Party represents my interests on social issues. Scuba Nov 2013 #16

you mean like the war on drugs...? mike_c Nov 2013 #20

While some of the issues you cite are clearly fiscal, you're correct that the Party .... Scuba Nov 2013 #22

There's no difference between "social" and "fiscal" issues. They're one in the same. nt Romulox Nov 2013 #35

I see a distinction, such as that between gay marriage and tax policy. Scuba Nov 2013 #37

One of the major implications of gay marriage is, in fact, benefits bestowed by the Federal Gov't, Romulox Nov 2013 #40

I don't disagree that so called "social" issues have fiscal components. Scuba Nov 2013 #45

No, I don't see it. Inequality is a "social" issue with a "fiscal" root. Romulox Nov 2013 #46

Hair splitting. Scuba Nov 2013 #47

I'm the one who said that they are one in the same. That's the opposite of "hair splitting". nt Romulox Nov 2013 #49

And yet, she's Democrat brooklynite Nov 2013 #8

Will you SHUSSSH ... you're ruining EVERYTHING!!!! JoePhilly Nov 2013 #52

Noam Scheiber, the Senior Editor of The New Republic, says this: Laelth Nov 2013 #11

"One of these days OnyxCollie Nov 2013 #12

Yes, a lot of dead wood needs to be pruned out of the leadership Warpy Nov 2013 #14

Well it's been said before and I'll say it again: truedelphi Nov 2013 #15

So . . . Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #17

Not all, but a great many. And sadly, those people are the very people with the p[ower and money truedelphi Nov 2013 #23

This schism has been a long time in the making. Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #18

The Koch Brothers PAID the DLC in early days to make sure this happened! cascadiance Nov 2013 #25

Sad but true except the current (D)s have made criminal banks even bigger Corruption Inc Nov 2013 #19

I like your sig. line. Laelth Nov 2013 #24

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Whoops. Not quite. Laelth Nov 2013 #30

Re-test W/O space. nt bluedeathray Nov 2013 #32

I can still see the space in the ht tp in your sig. line. Laelth Nov 2013 #33

Reeeediculous... bluedeathray Nov 2013 #36

No really... bluedeathray Nov 2013 #34

Last Shot bluedeathray Nov 2013 #38

You got it! Nicely done. Laelth Nov 2013 #43

No really. I'm blaming the NSA! nt bluedeathray Nov 2013 #44

There are two ht tp(s), with spaces, in the link code. Laelth Nov 2013 #39

I think you have that backwards BlueStreak Nov 2013 #28

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I wish the party weremore in touch with her! ananda Nov 2013 #41

Noam Scheiber says it is. Laelth Nov 2013 #48

She's in touch with Dem voters... polichick Nov 2013 #50

Then why is she part of the party? JoePhilly Nov 2013 #51

Many of us who have more TRADITIONAL Democratic Party views feel the corporatist DLCers should leave cascadiance Nov 2013 #55

That's not what the OP suggests. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #57

K&R /nt think Nov 2013 #53

Maybe the Democratic Party is out of touch with Elizabeth Warren. nt rrneck Nov 2013 #54

Good. I was starting to feel alone. mmonk Nov 2013 #56

You say that like it's a bad thing..... Wounded Bear Nov 2013 #58

The "not as bad" wing of the Democratic Party is out of touch with Elizabeth Warren. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #59

She has the support... adavid Nov 2013 #60

You bet she is, and so am I. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #61