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truedelphi

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16. Yep, you and me and a few other crazies may be the only

Thu Nov 14, 2013, 03:41 PM

Nov 2013

Ones who want it.

I look at my fellow Americans,. who are starving for decent health care reform, and they haven't been offered a full meal, but a small sack of peanuts, yet they are ecstatic.

Difference between Single Payer Univ. HC and what we are getting is enormous.

What we are getting is the "ability" to pay a monstrous bureaucratic organization lots of money each and every month, so they can decide what treatments, procedures and meds we get. And all this keeps our "health system" thirty percent more expensive than what Europeans are paying. And we get less satisfactory health outcomes, to boot!

But after all, ain't it important to keep Mr Helmsley (and others like him) in the Big Bucks? (He has garnered over a billion dollars off his position of being a top CEO at his Big Insurance Company.)

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Am I the only one who wants Single Payer? [View all] Coolest Ranger Nov 2013 OP

I'm in. riqster Nov 2013 #1

You're far from the only single-payer advocate on DU LongTomH Nov 2013 #2

count me in putitinD Nov 2013 #3

HELL NO! KamaAina Nov 2013 #4

No, a lot of people want it. vi5 Nov 2013 #5

Obama actually made a campaign video for Blanche Lincoln Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #79

Exactly..... vi5 Nov 2013 #90

The Party backs incumbents. merrily Nov 2013 #99

Yes, the party backs incumbents Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #120

Clinton campaigned in the Massachusetts special election primary in 2009 merrily Nov 2013 #121

Does it come with a pony too? CK_John Nov 2013 #6

No, but... nikto Nov 2013 #39

What a stupidly condescending post. Matariki Nov 2013 #82

Probably hasn't been around here long enough to realize there is a :sarcasm: icon eridani Nov 2013 #88

In which case I'm sorry Matariki Nov 2013 #104

Wow. I sure hope that's sarcasm. Quantess Nov 2013 #92

It was the appropriate response to the sarcasm of portraying Single Payer as a "Pony" nikto Nov 2013 #127

I want my pony, too. Orsino Nov 2013 #95

No one will ever know. merrily Nov 2013 #123

No. HijackedLabel Nov 2013 #7

No, indeed. Laelth Nov 2013 #8

And now is the perfect time to lead us in that direction:) grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #86

I've been pushing for it and working for it for 30 years!!! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #9

Sisyphus, is that you? merrily Nov 2013 #124

Single-payer fan here. bigwillq Nov 2013 #10

If Obama had gone for it back then he wouldn't be in the pickle he is now. n/t Peregrine Took Nov 2013 #11

If the Blue Dogs Democrats in the House and Senate hadn't rejected it, we'd have it. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #59

The President ran on health care reform. Change has come Nov 2013 #84

And you know this how?? You don't! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #94

He would never have gotten it passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #73

He's not in that much of a pickle. People running in 2014, on the other hand.... merrily Nov 2013 #125

I'm for it but need some type of relief now or I'll have to drop coverage on me mmonk Nov 2013 #12

Call it Medicare-for-all. jazzimov Nov 2013 #13

Employees would just move over to Medicare subsidiaries of insurance companies. Hoyt Nov 2013 #31

I'm not sure that most of the 'Medicare for All' advocates really know the actual specifics PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #53

I thought you must be new to DU. Actually, a British-style national health service would not be bad pampango Nov 2013 #14

why don't we just call it national health care? TorchTheWitch Nov 2013 #15

Yep, you and me and a few other crazies may be the only truedelphi Nov 2013 #16

Almost all of us here want it. The majority of americans want it. Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #17

Turn on the TV, and wtch even ten hours of prime TV each week, and truedelphi Nov 2013 #23

I needed a sarcasm smilie. Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #65

Don't forget the Big Pharma people. subterranean Nov 2013 #70

Yes! Yes! Yes! truedelphi Nov 2013 #71

Yep. Just you. Lex Nov 2013 #18

see: Physicians for a National Health Program annabanana Nov 2013 #19

You're kidding...everyone wants it. Paper Roses Nov 2013 #20

Hell no. I want it too! NOW. n/t Triana Nov 2013 #21

Bet you they wouldn't..... brooklynite Nov 2013 #22

YUP ... right again. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #24

absolutely riverwalker Nov 2013 #25

Nurses Too? . busterbrown Nov 2013 #29

Sounds good, but... nikto Nov 2013 #35

Welcome to D.U. by the way.. busterbrown Nov 2013 #47

single payer I am for it tardybar Nov 2013 #26

I'm done voting for democrats who don't fight for single payer. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #27

Then Bring the Tea Baggers on? n/t.. busterbrown Nov 2013 #30

Gotta love cowardly scare tactics Bradical79 Nov 2013 #91

Yea, reality is a bitch... busterbrown Nov 2013 #96

So its up to Democrats to effectively differentiate themselves. Bradical79 Nov 2013 #117

I’m glad you believe in your insanity. busterbrown Nov 2013 #119

So the "choice" you're giving... DissidentVoice Nov 2013 #106

That cuts down your choices a lot. merrily Nov 2013 #122

What would give you that idea tavalon Nov 2013 #28

Single-Payer is the only thing that makes sense nikto Nov 2013 #32

No /nt Armstead Nov 2013 #33

no, you're not.... mike_c Nov 2013 #34

I AM. We have to get the Nordquist/Koch types out of Congress. freshwest Nov 2013 #36

Of course not. Brigid Nov 2013 #37

No. ananda Nov 2013 #38

Nope! ReRe Nov 2013 #40

Accept no fraudulent, corporate fascist substitutes. kenny blankenship Nov 2013 #41

Single payer is the only way to go. RC Nov 2013 #42

WHAT IF?? COULD THIS WORK? nikto Nov 2013 #43

What if we put it on the ballot? Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #46

The US doesn't have national referendums. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #55

This policy should be voted on Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #57

Well the US kinda did vote against the individual mandate and for 'must have a public option' PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #62

To our shame n/t DissidentVoice Nov 2013 #105

Basically, that is a public option! So yes, it would work:) grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #87

No, you're not. Why do you ask? Jack Rabbit Nov 2013 #44

I'm old enough to remember house calls. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #45

wow you are old! madrchsod Nov 2013 #56

No sarge43 Nov 2013 #48

No. nt silvershadow Nov 2013 #49

I want single payer , too. I, also, want a new house. demosincebirth Nov 2013 #50

The thing is that single payer for everyone is a perfectly reasonable, tested, Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #68

I didn't think that my demosincebirth Nov 2013 #74

We'll get there. And the ACA gives us a fantastic path to do so. jeff47 Nov 2013 #51

I could see it working at the state level, starting with the ACA and moving in that direction. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #60

Greatly disappointed when it didn't work out that way.. fadedrose Nov 2013 #52

i`m on single payer...medicare madrchsod Nov 2013 #54

No. I want it, too, as do many other people. However, I understand what the reality is. Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #58

If you can find them DissidentVoice Nov 2013 #107

More like one of many. Solly Mack Nov 2013 #61

Nope! calimary Nov 2013 #63

We should have been the first country with single payer. We deserve it. But until our law makers diabeticman Nov 2013 #64

Not by a long shot. nt valerief Nov 2013 #66

I'm the only one that wants whirled peas. panader0 Nov 2013 #67

We know it would be better but you have a campaign financing problem to fix before harun Nov 2013 #69

Of course not. I think most DUers would prefer Single Payer. We aren't stupid. kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #72

I want it and so do most folks - TBF Nov 2013 #75

no. nt Deep13 Nov 2013 #76

We would be dollars ahead with a single payer national health insurance. My friend Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #77

Some people thing the French system is the best in the world, it isn't completely 'single payer' PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #85

Compared to the treatment or the length of time to receive care she received in France to what she Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #115

It still remains... JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #78

nope unapatriciated Nov 2013 #80

No, you definitely aren't Matariki Nov 2013 #81

I am totally on-board for single payer. avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #83

I've been a member for 10 years and still have yet to see anyone against it IronLionZion Nov 2013 #89

Of course not. LWolf Nov 2013 #93

Reporting as ordered! Demeter Nov 2013 #97

Hell no. merrily Nov 2013 #98

Yes. Single payer, and abolish those insurance industry parasites. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #100

No but it can't be done, the insurance industry doc03 Nov 2013 #101

I do too! nt LiberalEsto Nov 2013 #102

I firmly, firmly support it...but too many Democrats don't. DissidentVoice Nov 2013 #103

Absolutely the best solution warrenswil Nov 2013 #108

Single payer is the best way to go. JEB Nov 2013 #109

The problems with the Obamacare rollout BainsBane Nov 2013 #110

It's a good system, though I don't have the death pact with is a lot of the board does Recursion Nov 2013 #111

+1 lark Nov 2013 #112

you are not the only one. Sheri Nov 2013 #113

Medical For All would be Single Payer - The Infrasture is already in Place 2banon Nov 2013 #114

Yep.. you are the only one. Nobody on DU ever advocated for it before this OP. scheming daemons Nov 2013 #116

Nope. Iggo Nov 2013 #118

I have always advocated for single payer riversedge Nov 2013 #126

No, there's lots of advocates here and elsewhere. nt ladyVet Nov 2013 #128

After a decade of experiencing single payer OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #129