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Tree-Hugger

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Thu Nov 14, 2013, 05:01 PM Nov 2013

You know, I'm not a cop-hater, but today.... [View all]

Last edited Thu Nov 28, 2013, 03:30 PM - Edit history (2)

....I just want to kick some law enforcement balls.

I tend to pass over some of the DU posts that seem anti-cop because a lot of the experiences are different than my own and I know good cops. I try to keep an even mind. But today I'm pissed.

I've written here about my own poverty situation (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023842668) and OneGrassRoots just set me up on the Wishadoo site so my family can receive help. Being poor sucks. It's like you're ties down and powerless while being constantly assaulted by one thing or another on a daily basis.

One of our daily woes with poverty is out car situation. We have two cars, which I think we're supposed to sell because poor people aren't supposed to have cars. I believe the RWers expect us to drag one another to work via rickshaws that we construct out of cardboard boxes and the filth of our poor poverty tears. I digress. One car failed safety inspection, but passed emissions, in July. We have not been able to afford the needed repairs (wheel cylinders and breaks). The other car is good on inspection until December, but is also due for breaks now and has just begun making a terrifying noise while being driven (I can only describe it as sounding like there is a wookie under the hood) so we have completely stopped using it. We're in a bad place with our cars. Still, my husband needs to get to his three jobs and my son needs to get to and from school, doctor's appointments, etc. And we need to drive to the grocery store (because God forbid they install sidewalks that actually lead to somewhere...) in order to spend our SNAP money and get judged in line for buying red meat or a bag of pretzels for my son's school snacks.

I was stopped by a cop today. He noticed my expired sticker as I drove by. He asked why it was expired and I explained my whole situation, saying we were struggling financially and were "food pantry type of poor." He seemed sympathetic and asked for my license and papers, which I gave him. He said he was going to send me back out in a quick minute. They run your license and registration and insurance routinely, whether or not they intend to give you a ticket so that didn't bother me. As he was doing that, another cop pulls up. That cop got out and talked to him and then came to me. He said he understands I have some money issues and asked what was wrong with my car and how much the repairs would be. He then sympathized and said it's $20.00 parts, but $300.00 for labor. He asked if I had gotten estimates anywhere else. The way he initially spoke to me sounded sympathetic and I thought for a moment he was going to tell me of some way to get help for my car (maybe there was a program that offered car repairs to the po'). But then he started going on and on about how I'm a liability on the road and can harm myself, my kids, and others. And I agreed. I said I totally understand and I have never been one to ever skimp on car repairs or routine maintenance until now, that hopefully this is a temporary bind, and that I don't know what to do because we need to drive to get to work to make money and try to save for all of our repairs. He was all, "I know, I know. I get that." He went back to the other officer and they chatted, while I sat there. He came back and said I would probably get a ticket today and it wasn't because they don't sympathize and that they don't care, but that I should, "think of it as an incentive to do the right thing and get the car repaired." What the actual fuck? It's not like I'm out here not giving a shit about my car. It's not like I'm blowing money on frivolous things and not taking car of what's needed. I'm in a bind. I need help. The other officer came back with a ticket and said to please fix my car within ten days. Otherwise, my license will be suspended.

So, I guess I'll be driving around on a suspended license.

It just pisses me off because this is the overall attitude towards the poor in society. People act like we chose this. We're being stubborn. We're lazy and just don't want to work so we can live off of handouts all day. They act like a simple solution is just a pray and wish and a day's worth of hard work away...as if we can just snap our poor little fingers and a the answer will fall from the sky. I was just looking at this offer telling me that a ticket and license suspension will essentially incentive enough to cure my poverty and fix my car like he had three heads. It must be so easy to say that when you get to work a job with okay pay and benefits, don't have to worry about car repairs, and get to go home to your own home where you have a full pantry and fridge. It's so easy to tell poor people that things will get better if you just work hard enough...if you just want it bad enough. Just stop being poor. It's as easy as that!

Sorry if this doesn't belong in GD. I was looking for a place to rant. Most people in my personal life aren't aware of how bad things are for my family because a)it's embarrassing and b)I don't want my parents to worry anymore than they already do. So, I rant online. If you are reading this and you have a quick moment to send out a prayer, or a good thought to the universe, or some positive vibes, it would be greatly appreciated.

I'm going to sheepishly post my Wishadoo link here, as suggested by OneGrassRoot. Some folks have helped out and it's making a world of difference for us.

http://www.wishadoo.org/fundraising/6/help-with-rent-bills-car/

****UPDATE November 28, 2013****

Just wanted to give an update to this situation. I was able to get my cylinders fixed. I had initially thought I may be able to do it on my own, but I ended up needing to rush the process. My grandmother was placed on Hospice and I was hoping to be able to make the trip out of state to visit her, so I decided to go with an auto repair place instead. Most places quoted me in the $250 to $350 dollar range, except one, who charged half that and got it done quickly. My car also had another inspection and passed, so I am totally legal. Unfortunately, my grandmother passed away less than 24 hours after my inspection was complete, so I was unable to visit her.

I just wanted to thank all of you who read this and gave me advice, support, and encouragement. And thank you so much to those who have contributed to my Wishadoo campaign. I am at 50% of my goal and the support has been tremendously helpful - I can't even begin to explain how grateful we are. I am in the process of sending individual emails out over the next couple of days.

Thank you EVERYONE!!!

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K&R Fumesucker Nov 2013 #1
Thank you :) nt Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #9
Prayers and good vibes going out to you. I hope it will work out for you. n/t monmouth3 Nov 2013 #2
Much appreciated :) nt Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #10
Could you trade in the two cars for one that works? MADem Nov 2013 #3
I have thought about that Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #12
I have a relative who sold his shitbox car to a junkyard for two hundred bucks. MADem Nov 2013 #25
I will look into that Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #27
I find it's best to be plain spoken; let that school know that you aren't asking just MADem Nov 2013 #40
Very true Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #54
You'll get past this. MADem Nov 2013 #61
Thank you Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #71
Hope you had a decent Thanksgiving, and that things look up for you soon. nt MADem Nov 2013 #139
Tough to do that without getting the cars fixed. bluestate10 Nov 2013 #46
I have a relative who did that--I think it depends on how much the beater you want to MADem Nov 2013 #48
True Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #55
Don't drive on a suspended license. panader0 Nov 2013 #4
I probably won't Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #13
I drove on a suspended license for three years. Sirveri Nov 2013 #98
I'm in PA Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #99
Don't drive on a suspended license. GETPLANING Nov 2013 #32
I won't Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #57
I agree. It is better to explain the situation to friends or family and get help. nt bluestate10 Nov 2013 #47
Agreed nt Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #58
When 80% of amerika lives like this warrant46 Nov 2013 #5
I always say... Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #14
When hypocrites start talking like that, call them out to their face right then & there johnlucas Nov 2013 #23
I'm a big wave maker Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #24
Good!! johnlucas Nov 2013 #53
I'm afraid you being female may have been a factor quinnox Nov 2013 #6
That's a likely scenario Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #16
Not me. I have a pair of $227 tickets to pay for brake lights & tag lights. I'm Black by the way. johnlucas Nov 2013 #26
Here, too Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #29
Here in MT markmac Nov 2013 #130
I bet you enlightened them! :) Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #131
You say it needs wheel cylinders and brake pads? Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #7
Yes Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #17
could you work out a trade with someone? TorchTheWitch Nov 2013 #124
That's what I am trying to do Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #125
that's great TorchTheWitch Nov 2013 #133
I was gonna say the same thing hfojvt Nov 2013 #56
I have heard the same about the pads Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #59
Bad cylinders can ruin rotors/drums, but it's rare, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #73
Okay...that makes me feel better Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #76
Yes, you would definitely hear grinding and feel it through your brake pedal, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #82
Uh oh... Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #84
The vibrating may be due to uneven brake pad wear due to a bad caliper, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #87
Whew Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #89
No problem, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #90
It's really simple to rebuild cylinders and calipers, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #67
I'm going to ask around Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #72
That's good that it's a 2009, Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #79
Thank you!! Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #83
my dad knew how to fix some things hfojvt Nov 2013 #88
I was raised on a ranch, hence my user name. Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #91
My dad could fix a few car things Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #102
mom may have been the gardener of the family hfojvt Nov 2013 #109
We're all city folk Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #110
How can I find your Wishadoo listing? CanonRay Nov 2013 #8
It's here Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #19
k and r - please post the wishadoo link! nashville_brook Nov 2013 #11
Here ya go... (Hey, Tree-Hugger...you may wan to edit your OP to include this link) OneGrassRoot Nov 2013 #15
Thank you!! Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #21
I thought about it Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #20
If you're in SE Michigan, my son is certified in brakes notadmblnd Nov 2013 #18
I am in PA Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #22
Yes, I would think so because that's where they get them. notadmblnd Nov 2013 #28
I found a bunch of sites Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #30
Yeah, the kid might be willing to do it on the side out of his garage. notadmblnd Nov 2013 #31
I believe they do. :) nt Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #60
You'll be in my prayers. 840high Nov 2013 #33
Thank you so much. :) nt Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #62
It could have been worse. Conium Nov 2013 #34
This is true Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #63
K&R Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #35
thanks!! nt Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #64
I am so sorry you're going thru this... ms liberty Nov 2013 #36
Thanks for the vibes! Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #65
Fuck that cop. nt thefool_wa Nov 2013 #37
I see it. :( nt Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #66
Been there. Was taking a load of wood to market, in Feb., like maybe 15 degrees out, toby jo Nov 2013 #38
They set up stop sign traps here, too Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #68
The more I hear about what cops are up to lately stage left Nov 2013 #39
Thank you so, so much Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #69
you're so welcome. stage left Nov 2013 #103
"Incentive." Patronizing bullshit. DirkGently Nov 2013 #41
Yes Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #75
k&R... spanone Nov 2013 #42
thanks for the kick!! nt Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #77
Wow, I'm sorry for your plight Trailrider1951 Nov 2013 #43
I'm going to check around Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #70
I know this won't come off right, but count your blessings. K.O. Stradivarius Nov 2013 #44
You're right Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #78
Can't make heads or tails of Wishadoo. Th1onein Nov 2013 #45
I think the site had some glitches Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #80
kick Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #49
It's a crime to be poor in America Cal Carpenter Nov 2013 #50
It needs to happen Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #81
Prayers for you and fuck the cops gopiscrap Nov 2013 #51
Thank you for the prayers :) nt Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #74
are you from the Northwest? gopiscrap Nov 2013 #126
Mid Atlantic. :) nt Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #128
ok, by your name, I though you might be. gopiscrap Nov 2013 #129
I'm a cop hater & proud to say it! johnlucas Nov 2013 #52
I fully agree with you!!! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #127
sorry gotta side with the cops here hfojvt Nov 2013 #85
I don't deny that Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #92
Cold condescension Lurker Deluxe Nov 2013 #107
That's my plan Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #118
Aren't you a ray of sunshine. MADem Nov 2013 #94
I said jurisdictions may vary hfojvt Nov 2013 #97
You decided you "knew" how far this DUer lived from a grocery store, and chided her about MADem Nov 2013 #100
Thank you! Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #105
actually no hfojvt Nov 2013 #111
Actually, yes. MADem Nov 2013 #134
Again, thank you Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #138
A lot of places around here Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #104
Wishing you well. roody Nov 2013 #86
Thank you!! :) eom Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #93
Are you near me? H. Cromwell Nov 2013 #95
Almost Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #96
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #101
Fix it yourself. Aelyria Nov 2013 #106
^^ Good info ^^ So many resources for DIY stuff nowadays, which is great. OneGrassRoot Nov 2013 #112
thanks! Aelyria Nov 2013 #114
YouTube has great DIY for nearly everything Packerowner740 Nov 2013 #123
$80 would be nice! Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #119
A friend of mine was pulled over here in San Diego rudolph the red Nov 2013 #108
Definitely lucky that didn't happen to me. nt Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #120
Traffic Criminals libodem Nov 2013 #113
Economic status doesn't excuse you from the requirement to drive a legal and safe vehicle... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #115
Irrelevant and gratuitous post AceWheeler Nov 2013 #116
Exactly. :) nt Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #121
here but for the grace of God go I questionseverything Nov 2013 #117
These are all excellent suggestions Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #122
what you describe isn't anti-cop TorchTheWitch Nov 2013 #132
Excellent insight Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #136
kick Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #135
Update included in the OP Tree-Hugger Nov 2013 #137
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