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jeff47

(26,549 posts)
30. Verb
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 07:37 PM
Nov 2013
Unlike other MMOs there is only ONE instance, rather than numerous copies and more created as needed. If you and I both go to Jita, we will both ALWAYS be in the same location.

And if you and I both walk into Orgrimar, we'll both be in the same location. Does that mean WoW doesn't have instances?

Separating the systems accomplishes the same underlying effect as instancing - it puts the users into separate environments which can be put onto separate physical hardware.

Which does nothing to address my point. In an MMO the clients and servers are essentially continuously streaming information to each other

Actually, it does address your point. EvE is not constantly sending information between the servers and the clients. If you click "stop", the game client does not instantly transmit "stop" to the server. It queues up the "stop". Periodically, the client and server exchange information, and the command is sent to the server at that time.

In a normal situation, that happens frequently enough that it appears the communications are instantaneous. In a large war, the server bogs down so much that you can tell when that communications happens.

Not anymore. The new code handles this stuff very well. Pretty ingenious solution actually.

Yes, it's called "lower numbers of simultaneous players".

They have made improvements. But the wars also shrunk.

More, unlike this website debacle, they didn't have five years and a hundred million to write the code.

Yes, they had much longer, and had a much, much smaller problem to solve. For example, they didn't have to integrate with anyone. Healthcare.gov integrates with pretty much damn near everyone.

Of course. Below is an article about their server setup in 2010.

Which is why you spent your previous post harping over and over again on "ONE SERVER!!!!!".

I don't think so at all. Obviously there is no need for the Healthcare.gov setup to run on a single server. The point I was making is that private companies, including comparatively small ones, are already handling loads that dwarf anything the government website would ever be tasked with.

And the problem is you don't actually understand the size of the task. EvE and WoW are easy. Sure, they're big. Now. They were train wrecks when they launched. They've had 9 and 10 years to work out their problems, but you're pretending that they just released. But more importantly, they're just talking to themselves.

Now Healthcare.gov? They're communicating with dozens of external parties, which do not want the law to succeed. They have an "install base" that is several times larger than WoW's.

You are comparing making an omelette in your own kitchen to making 1000 omelettes in someone else's kitchen, while people keep moving the eggs and pans, and while your detractors turn up or down the gas randomly.

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According the the HHS Sec, they can process 17K aps a DAY Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #1
No... she said 17000 aps per HOUR.... you are willfully lying scheming daemons Nov 2013 #6
You are correct, I confused her statement with her tech expert... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #13
This is ENROLLMENTS, not transactions BlueStreak Nov 2013 #15
I don't know about Hertz, but I do know about... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #17
That is not the same as orders per second BlueStreak Nov 2013 #21
So much wrong in one post. jeff47 Nov 2013 #24
Response... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #25
Verb jeff47 Nov 2013 #30
I think we have gotten sidetracked a bit. Good post... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #32
Nonsense. Yout watch can barely manage displaying one time BlueStreak Nov 2013 #7
Hey, we wasted almost 2 hours the other day on the UPS website frazzled Nov 2013 #2
I just did a Google search that I had to retry 3 times. Woe is me. BlueStreak Nov 2013 #8
And at pretty much every page there is the option to use the telephone and talk to a person Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #12
Let them all exercise their popping blood vessels Whisp Nov 2013 #3
I suggest they enroll BEFORE they have their aneurysm BlueStreak Nov 2013 #9
Healthcare.gov is working matt819 Nov 2013 #4
I'm still having problems with registering Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #5
Sorry to hear that. Some people found it necessary to clear cache and cookies BlueStreak Nov 2013 #10
no, but I probably need to do that. I've been lazy Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #11
I am not sure what is going on with NM BlueStreak Nov 2013 #14
Here's the message on healthcare.gov once you specify New Mexico: Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #16
Yes, that is really peciluar BlueStreak Nov 2013 #23
My guess is that it's a cooperative effort, that during the open enrollment year Voice for Peace Nov 2013 #31
kick napkinz Nov 2013 #18
ahh that explain RW and ACA haters focus shifting to"dump ACA because # xxxxx" n/t Sheepshank Nov 2013 #19
My experience hasn't been so good Maeve Nov 2013 #20
Have you cleared your cache and cookies? BlueStreak Nov 2013 #22
This fix worked for me pandora nm Nov 2013 #29
Appreciate the advice, but didn't work Maeve Nov 2013 #34
Well it has become "gospel" Peacetrain Nov 2013 #26
I just tried to go on just to see how fast it would be. This is a "peak time," right around 6:00 Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2013 #27
Have signed up and received my intial packet from the insurance company aptal Nov 2013 #28
CA's website appeared to work for me -- but I didn't get the promised invoice Dems to Win Nov 2013 #33
kick napkinz Nov 2013 #35
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