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gulliver

(13,902 posts)
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 11:28 PM Nov 2013

Single payer rises and falls with the ACA. [View all]

If the ACA succeeds, then single payer is inevitable. It positions the Democrats as successes, and their next ideas will carry more weight. People will want to take the next steps to listen.

If the ACA fails, the failure will crush single payer. Republicans certainly won't propose single payer, and the left will have lost all credibility. It will be like the Republicans on national security or on the economy after their boy George W. Bush. Disgraced and ignored.

If you are not committed to ACA success, you are not committed to single payer. This plane is going over the mountain or into it.

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the ACA is not from "the left" villager Nov 2013 #1
That dog won't hunt. gulliver Nov 2013 #3
More's the pity then, eh? Since the left kind of warned the center-right about all this villager Nov 2013 #5
Yep. n/t progressoid Nov 2013 #15
HIPPA Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #27
Bookmarked. enlightenment Nov 2013 #2
I agree with you. The ACA is a waystation on the road to single-payer. MADem Nov 2013 #4
Honest question: 1000words Nov 2013 #6
Because written into the ACA is the ability for any state to start their own Single Payer plan... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #7
Thank you, VR 1000words Nov 2013 #8
+++ Whisp Nov 2013 #9
It's superfluous Morganfleeman Nov 2013 #12
not just codified....encouraged...as an approved alternative plan.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #13
Yup. If it fails, Americans won't trust any idea of government-run healthcare... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #10
From government run health insurance Lifelong Dem Nov 2013 #11
Don't be saddling "the left" with a fresh take on the right wing think tanks plan TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #14
Are you predicting that, if ACA fails, there will be a big push to abolish Medicare? Jim Lane Nov 2013 #16
Government healthcare either succeeds for fails with Obamacare Democat Nov 2013 #17
No, because the ACA is not government healthcare... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #20
What makes single payer inevitable? Many countries use a different system Recursion Nov 2013 #18
This assumes no efforts to divorce corporatist healthcare like the ACA... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #19
To many Americans this is "public healthcare" Democat Nov 2013 #21
How is the conclusion being drawn that the ACA is govt. provided health care? area51 Nov 2013 #22
The Heritage Foundation is now "the left"? Fumesucker Nov 2013 #23
I despise the ACA. It is corporatist fascism at its worse Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #24
Should we set our hair on fire? nt bemildred Nov 2013 #25
I don't see that at all. LWolf Nov 2013 #26
if ACA succeeds, why do we need to change? alc Nov 2013 #28
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