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DonCoquixote

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239. on the one hand

Fri Nov 15, 2013, 01:03 AM

Nov 2013

If his offense was the sock puppets, I could see a suspension, namely because sock puppets are somethign we should be flat out against.

However, the fact this happened because he ticked that magic number of negative reviews that make an audit scares me,. A few weeks ago, I posted another's warning about this, that cliques can and would get together to make sure people they did not like got enough reviews to get the Ax. I cannot help but feel this was a prime example..to quote Maddow, if I am wrong, talk me down.

Now, please do not think I do not enjoy it when someone who deserves it gets a pizza. I am still happy about DKF being gone. But then again, DKF had made tons of outright nasty, trollish posts. Simply put, what did Taverner do to tick people off?

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] pintobean Nov 2013 OP

His better posts were passionate, his worse were intemperate Warpy Nov 2013 #1

I'm sorry to hear that. :( TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #2

Me too ... sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #119

That's just crap. pintobean Nov 2013 #123

No, it's not crap. I'm just saying what a whole of other progressive dems believe some of whom sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #138

it is crap though hfojvt Nov 2013 #197

His transparency page is showing. He got flagged for review because he had multiple hides winter is coming Nov 2013 #208

4 hides in the last 90 days. bvar22 Nov 2013 #463

That is why I have stayed away from DU PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #509

You guys are better at this nomenclature than I am... MrMickeysMom Nov 2013 #309

Sock puppets are additional accounts by a single member pintobean Nov 2013 #310

Thanks, pinto bean... MrMickeysMom Nov 2013 #430

PPR=posting privileges revoked Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #386

Reminds me of EFerrari Lasher Nov 2013 #355

i liked her too. and no, she did not like me back. lol. but that was ok. seabeyond Nov 2013 #361

I can't link to it since META has vanished. Lasher Nov 2013 #396

dang, I did not know that hfojvt Nov 2013 #367

On the subject, surely you noticed the passing of DKF, not yet a month ago. Lasher Nov 2013 #399

RetroLounge is the one who started a bookstore, I think. Adsos Letter Nov 2013 #429

Case in point, I can think of one... MrMickeysMom Nov 2013 #223

I can think of dozens. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #287

many/most of my favorite people who are gone hfojvt Nov 2013 #350

Lyric and Rhythm, KitchenWitch, Midlo KamaAina Nov 2013 #380

Yes, after the mass name amnesty Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #382

I had that list bookmarked on DU2 hfojvt Nov 2013 #384

I liked OLL/Tangerine Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #394

I really liked her. Puglover Nov 2013 #395

She liked me, too. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #402

I read her book and loved it. Puglover Nov 2013 #406

I adored Annette. May she RIP PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #397

Yeah, I liked her too. I knew she was OLL after about a week of reading her posts... Ghost in the Machine Nov 2013 #424

I have to be a name nazi. Puglover Nov 2013 #414

To answer a question "how do THEY know?" PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #447

Agree. I find it hard to take DU seriously either anymore Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #243

But you have to admit... yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #393

Oh very true! Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #413

This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Nov 2013 #175

just another day on DU, lol. nt BootinUp Nov 2013 #225

Agreed. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #254

oh come on CreekDog Nov 2013 #130

Every forum needs the voice of contrarianism, don'tcha know... nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #195

Cliques and censorship... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #159

Me too, TeeYiYi. It is unsettling. Progressives appear to be unwelcome in the Dem Party. I could sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #173

Taverner's PPR... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #220

MIRT would have had no say in this one Marrah_G Nov 2013 #251

You don't believe... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #262

No Marrah_G Nov 2013 #264

We'll have to agree to disagree on that point... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #277

Anyone can send Skinner or Earl a note. Marrah_G Nov 2013 #278

You seriously need to spend time on MIRT Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #321

Agreed; mine is pure speculation... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #409

I served 2 terms on MIRT Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #440

On currently and would agree with you. Agschmid Nov 2013 #441

I am on MIRT and had no idea he was suspended. We had no recent discussions of him this term. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #281

Thanks, hrmjustin... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #289

Your welcome. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #290

Then Taverner must be psychic because that sock was created a week before he was flagged for review. winter is coming Nov 2013 #257

Perhaps he created the sock... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #273

"still believe that admin considers the opinions and conversations held within the private forums winter is coming Nov 2013 #274

There was definitely more than one sock... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #267

After further consideration... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #291

You are questioning motives, methods, and truthfulness of admins Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #276

What I'm questioning... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #284

I feel the same way Mojorabbit Nov 2013 #366

Sock puppets and insulting e-mails/PMs are a damn good reason to PPR intaglio Nov 2013 #335

Many are looking for higher ground. L0oniX Nov 2013 #347

Well said. And the swarming and disruption from corporate mouthpieces is not just evident at DU. woo me with science Nov 2013 #182

You are witnessing the radicalizing of America's middle. Tired of idealogues Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #286

That's a really disturbing perversion of the words "middle" and "pragmatic." woo me with science Nov 2013 #304

I agree. bvar22 Nov 2013 #461

progressives who use sockpuppets to disrupt probably aren't PROGRESSIVES. KittyWampus Nov 2013 #332

Chronic defenders of predatory corporate policy are most certainly not progressives. nt woo me with science Nov 2013 #341

Way to change the subject Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #353

Au contraire. woo me with science Nov 2013 #360

The point is really that tenure here or bona fides as Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #364

That's pretty funny considering that woo me with science Nov 2013 #370

That can't be the reason: 'to act like a 3 year old'. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #373

That's what I was going to say. n/t cui bono Nov 2013 #536

+1000. You Better Believe It! Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #381

I'm sorry to see him go... CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2013 #3

That's unfortunate. Disruptive behavior aside, he actually stood for something. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #4

+1 His posts generally were passionate and substantive. woo me with science Nov 2013 #189

drive-by nastiness warrant46 Nov 2013 #345

Whenever liberals oppose predatory corporate policies. nt woo me with science Nov 2013 #371

Seen that too warrant46 Nov 2013 #378

This is an excellent reply. defacto7 Nov 2013 #401

Exactly. cui bono Nov 2013 #535

Grief sucks proud patriot Nov 2013 #5

Ok, while we're gravedancing, so has RZM, finally Electric Monk Nov 2013 #6

Now this is something to celebrate! tenderfoot Nov 2013 #7

I knew you'd like that pintobean Nov 2013 #9

Were they the same person, I wonder? nt MADem Nov 2013 #31

Inevitable, but overdue. Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #46

White people have lost a loyal advocate CreekDog Nov 2013 #111

+1000 bullwinkle428 Nov 2013 #117

Puleeez... Not this white person. I think you meant to say: JimDandy Nov 2013 #174

He repeatedly asked to be PPR'd BainsBane Nov 2013 #156

Good riddance but I have the strange feeling that he's still around. NealK Nov 2013 #213

Based on EarlG's explanation, looks like he deserved it. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #8

I will miss him. I thought his point of view often just cut to the chase Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #10

I am sorry to see that poster go. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #11

Once you start creating sock puppets accounts and personally insulting Admin... TeamPooka Nov 2013 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #13

If this is possible, it should be corrected. Scuba Nov 2013 #15

It happened to me, too Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #20

You can always email them rather them DU PMing them so yes, you can resolve the situation. Notice uppityperson Nov 2013 #30

Not defending the nastiness Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #35

What backdoor way? Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #50

They discussed it on pintobean Nov 2013 #52

So darkangel, Pab Sungenis, and Taverner were all flagged for review. Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #54

+ uppityperson Nov 2013 #59

That sums it up. /nt pintobean Nov 2013 #65

There was another one also. William769 Nov 2013 #68

I'm sure it's annoying to be flagged for review. Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #75

I know the feeling! William769 Nov 2013 #80

you want I should kick your ass and force you to take a vacation, Gormy Cuss? Skittles Nov 2013 #214

Word! Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #221

Wasn't trumad also flagged for review recently? Kaleva Nov 2013 #93

Yep. Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #100

The sacrifices that he makes for DU pintobean Nov 2013 #102

I believe trumad was also flagged and reinstated... SidDithers Nov 2013 #103

! L0oniX Nov 2013 #352

Stealing that!! nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #368

But if I, for one, hadn't spoken up Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #105

Many of us have alert stalkers. pintobean Nov 2013 #114

A bloc of six or ten users at 3 AM Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #121

Try starting a thread about it pintobean Nov 2013 #124

Lol Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #297

ROFL. The nonsense people come up with! alcibiades_mystery Nov 2013 #458

It's a conspiracy, I tell ya jberryhill Nov 2013 #502

One can serve on a jury only once every 12 hours or more. Kaleva Nov 2013 #127

I had a poster tell me they served on three juries Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #129

I was told this in Meta (about the 12 hour interlude) Kaleva Nov 2013 #135

No, that poster said it was the "second or third" jury "in the last day or so". winter is coming Nov 2013 #166

The 12:21 and 6:57am ones. Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #170

Call out hides are the result of malicious alerting? uppityperson Nov 2013 #201

And yet posts accusing me of hating women Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #209

How do you know who alerts on what posts? Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #216

I note that each of those are at times the board is pretty well populated. n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #324

hmmm... I served on one at 11:46 this AM and again just now... PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #179

Is that new? I have served on more than one in a single evening. nt Mojorabbit Nov 2013 #218

I doubt the online population ever drops low enough Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #323

Kind of off topic, but small correction: it's not a 90 day lockout, it's until the oldest petronius Nov 2013 #207

Oh fuck. RiffRandell Nov 2013 #81

Put some ice on it. pintobean Nov 2013 #177

Can anyone join the DU facebook? Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #336

I've never tried. pintobean Nov 2013 #340

I never alerted on you, but let's face it, you've posted sexist remarks and statements CreekDog Nov 2013 #34

Is this important? I don't now you or the person you are addressing. I thought this forum was sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #136

if you have an issue with what is being discussed, you should tell him to not start the topic CreekDog Nov 2013 #140

Was this comment meant for someone else? I am for complete and open discussion about sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #149

i was discussing the issue/post that Pab posted about CreekDog Nov 2013 #152

Then why are you posting away in this thread if yr only interested in *issues*? n/t Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #211

Well, that standard doesn't apply to DevonRex Nov 2013 #247

Ha!! Number23 Nov 2013 #293

This is an issue, did you miss it? sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #346

What is telling to me are there are really two types of posters in this thread. Puglover Nov 2013 #348

That's exactly how I'm reading it. Thank You! nt adirondacker Nov 2013 #379

+1 ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #425

I couldn't agree more. And you're not the only one wondering why some disrupters are not sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #431

+1,000,000 cui bono Nov 2013 #537

You said: ' I thought this forum was about major issues that affect millions of human beings' Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #404

I didn't know Taverner wasn't a human being. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #432

So yr giving up on the 'major issues that affect MILLIONS of human beings'' line now... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #448

Here, let me help you: sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #468

I see the double standards just fine. I just don't agree with them... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #470

I will! You can count on it. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #471

Counting on it will brighten my day! Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #472

Do you realize how much you have further enhanced my creds here on DU? sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #498

Psst. Bragging about yr perceived DU cred isn't an issue affecting millions of human beings... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #503

.... sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #505

Some folks just aren't worth replying to. zappaman Nov 2013 #519

I'm sorry, but you just gave me another good chuckle. And the outraged sanctimony of a few others Number23 Nov 2013 #433

Thanks... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #449

Thank you for pointing out the endless hypocrisy by the usual suspects zappaman Nov 2013 #478

Thanks, zappaman. That was such an obvious example... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #480

I just read your exchange upthread Number23 Nov 2013 #483

"Fuckwitter"? zappaman Nov 2013 #485

That was a typo! Number23 Nov 2013 #487

Lol! sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #506

Bizarre, no? Bobbie Jo Nov 2013 #462

In all honesty, I think the Palin comparison is unfair Number23 Nov 2013 #482

Was it you that got a bunch of crap pintobean Nov 2013 #489

Hmmmm... zappaman Nov 2013 #492

lol Bobbie Jo Nov 2013 #499

You really think that highly of Sarah Palin? sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #507

No Bobbie Jo Nov 2013 #511

+100. Skip Intro Nov 2013 #148

Hey CreekDog, not EVERYTHING is about YOU. Skip Intro Nov 2013 #145

Yes it is pintobean Nov 2013 #151

lol. n/t Skip Intro Nov 2013 #176

Aren't you busy reenacting the Battle of Fort Sumpter or something? CreekDog Nov 2013 #249

LOL! Rex Nov 2013 #255

LOL Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #268

Are you saying this isn't about me? CreekDog Nov 2013 #230

I noticed... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #87

He communicated with them through emails, like it says in the OP. And having multiple socks over the uppityperson Nov 2013 #95

I wonder if... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #131

Here is what happens BainsBane Nov 2013 #178

Thank you... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #259

If that were the case BainsBane Nov 2013 #263

I thought MIRT was just for trolling newcomers. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #181

It is. MIRT doesn't have the power to ban long-termers or to flag anyone for review. winter is coming Nov 2013 #190

I think that's a good idea. Sort of like ATA. n/t JimDandy Nov 2013 #196

Hmm, so you think we should tell all the spammers, trolls, and zombies how we recognize them? winter is coming Nov 2013 #199

Never served on MIRT. JimDandy Nov 2013 #210

MIRT has nothing to do with that, though. That's strictly an Admin call. winter is coming Nov 2013 #215

Then set it at 48 hrs, if it's actually meant to be a cool down period. JimDandy Nov 2013 #231

Admins make these decisions, not MIRT members. cyberswede Nov 2013 #227

You believe that... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #244

The only way you get into the MIRT forum is if you are on MIRT. Volunteer and see wheat uppityperson Nov 2013 #295

` warrant46 Nov 2013 #450

I beg to differ on your second and third paragraphs. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #153

How did the alert system force him to create sockpuppet accounts and attack the admins? Renew Deal Nov 2013 #258

The sockpuppet (only one) was created Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #269

That particular sockpuppet was created 8 days before he was flagged for review. n/t winter is coming Nov 2013 #272

That means you believe Taverner over admin. pintobean Nov 2013 #339

I wouldn't if Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #357

You were put in time out. pintobean Nov 2013 #415

This message was self-deleted by its author pintobean Nov 2013 #416

Dude, that facebook group is poison. pintobean Nov 2013 #419

LOL! Did the group make him write insulting emails to the Admins? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #16

I start undergoing sympathy failure when multiple sockpuppets show up. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #37

I dunno. Chan790 Nov 2013 #71

Wow. Philosophy. I'm impressed. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #265

I like your comment... n/t defacto7 Nov 2013 #407

Surely the best way to thwart these roving gangs of "alert stalkers" Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #76

Everyone on here is offended by one thing or another Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #98

We've given the word mob a bad name CreekDog Nov 2013 #298

Blame it on everyone else BainsBane Nov 2013 #160

he should have been "hard PPR'd" a while ago La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #193

from what I've heard, that word should be used under advisement CreekDog Nov 2013 #299

Not really, going off on any websites admins is a great way Rex Nov 2013 #320

Gose/gander. You're calling in the Facebook troops pintobean Nov 2013 #456

Threatening DUers from Facebook pintobean Nov 2013 #467

How do you know how long someone is in time out? This thread has been illuminating Number23 Nov 2013 #488

His profile says "flagged for review". pintobean Nov 2013 #490

Gotcha. And you said that person was gone until winter because they are flagged until Number23 Nov 2013 #491

That's depending on how long he stays flagged pintobean Nov 2013 #493

i was flagged a couple weeks ago. i got a couple hides within a couple hours. seabeyond Nov 2013 #494

I'm all broken up! Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #14

Bummer, but I think he was done here. See ya around, Tav. My friend datasuspect, too. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #17

Wow. I didn't know about datasuspect pintobean Nov 2013 #22

It was stuff in an Incognito thread and bullying and shit. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #24

I dunno. He wound up on my ignore list for being a complete asshat about something or other on kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #116

Neat! PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #118

Oh, that's one PPR I didn't see coming Electric Monk Nov 2013 #23

Skinner is wrong. He was never a troll. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #25

I agree, he was a Progressive Democrat who obviously had had enough of the infiltration of sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #155

For sure. Some of the best people I know IRL have been banned from DU. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #158

Having read what he put on the Incognito thread intaglio Nov 2013 #387

He had been banned at least one other time, maybe more. morningfog Nov 2013 #313

I was fully aware of the meaning of "troll" when I made that statement. But... thanks? PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #318

Then you obviously weren't fully aware of his posting history when you made that statement. morningfog Nov 2013 #426

oh no! Kali Nov 2013 #33

Yeah, he added 'flavor' here, that's for sure. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #36

If datasuspect wasn't a troll, then I'm the Pope. tenderfoot Nov 2013 #70

lol, whatever, n00b. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #73

Been here since 2003 - new profile - N00B tenderfoot Nov 2013 #78

lol. you still don't know him, but carry on with your bad self. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #84

I don't have to - I can simply go by what he posted here and... tenderfoot Nov 2013 #96

OH MY GOD NOT TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE!!!!11 PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #104

Glad you came to the defense of your trolly misogynisty caddishy mate. tenderfoot Nov 2013 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #112

You should probably edit some of your posts snooper2 Nov 2013 #183

Tenderfoot did do a name change. MADem Nov 2013 #169

Whatever. I replied rudely to a rude response. Especially after I'd qualified he's a friend. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #172

Your friend creeped out a friend... tenderfoot Nov 2013 #180

now who's being caddish? PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #185

Classy Nikki... Agschmid Nov 2013 #139

thanks for your valuable input! PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #143

Just call it when I see it. Agschmid Nov 2013 #147

then you should get your eyes checked. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #150

Just for transparency for all... Agschmid Nov 2013 #186

And read the explanation. G'head. lol PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #188

I called it a few months ago LittleBlue Nov 2013 #18

That's too bad, but why does this ever merit grave-dancing? MrMickeysMom Nov 2013 #19

I didn't post it for grave dancing pintobean Nov 2013 #28

Thank you for posting. I knew you weren't grave dancing... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #40

I don't believe that for one second. Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #107

I don't care. pintobean Nov 2013 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #126

I am actually going to miss that annoying little twerp. Throd Nov 2013 #21

Damn... Probably Could Have Used A Break From DU... WillyT Nov 2013 #26

Nothing goes on here that warrants insulting Admin and creating sockpuppet accounts Kaleva Nov 2013 #27

Made him for a troll years ago n/t Strelnikov_ Nov 2013 #29

You "made" wrong. WilliamPitt Nov 2013 #43

You're still here? Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #270

Not true. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #55

not a troll, but he should have taken a break from DU JI7 Nov 2013 #58

NOT n/t malaise Nov 2013 #63

No, he was not... Intemperate, sometimes yes. Very impassioned, yes. hlthe2b Nov 2013 #79

Well, you were wrong. He wasn't banned for being a troll. uppityperson Nov 2013 #99

No, you didn't. Iggo Nov 2013 #122

He wasn't a troll Renew Deal Nov 2013 #260

He was never a troll Marrah_G Nov 2013 #282

He was not a troll. nt woo me with science Nov 2013 #305

-1 L0oniX Nov 2013 #359

Same LittleBlue Nov 2013 #398

I did not know Taverner, and I do think he was not tblue37 Nov 2013 #469

What? ellie Nov 2013 #32

Guh, I didn't see that coming. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #38

I'm sorry to hear that Xipe Totec Nov 2013 #39

Did they get all the socks...or are there a few more bouncing around in the dryer? MADem Nov 2013 #41

i think he told who he was when he used his sockpuppets JI7 Nov 2013 #67

He was here since 2001. WilliamPitt Nov 2013 #42

His profile says 2004 pintobean Nov 2013 #44

maybe changed his name ? JI7 Nov 2013 #64

I don't think that reset the date on DU2. pintobean Nov 2013 #66

Well, not to "Godwin" but when Germany lost Hitler it was an improvement. MADem Nov 2013 #83

"...but when Germany lost Hitler it was an improvement." WilliamPitt Nov 2013 #89

Why don't you wander over to facebook and have a look at what that guy MADem Nov 2013 #106

He's angry, and he's been under a lot of stress with the illness of his father. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #109

+1 tenderfoot Nov 2013 #120

In the last month, I have had two relatives MURDERED by drunkards behind the wheel. MADem Nov 2013 #128

i remember he wanted to start the Pacifism Group JI7 Nov 2013 #133

Ouch! nt MADem Nov 2013 #165

I'm sorry. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #134

Thank you for that, and I know you "get" how I feel,though I don't come here for that kind of thing. MADem Nov 2013 #162

I think we both agree Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #171

Which leads to a very important pipi_k Nov 2013 #333

+1 MADem Nov 2013 #446

+A BRAZILLION! Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #418

That's not an excuse to wish death on others. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #146

I'm wondering... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #144

Never mind pintobean Nov 2013 #154

Thanks for trying. ..nt TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #163

It's in the DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND group zappaman Nov 2013 #279

That sounds EXACTLY like the ravings found on Old Elm Tree Number23 Nov 2013 #296

!!! bunnies Nov 2013 #351

I missed this last night... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #375

Everyone defending him here needs to read this garage. joshcryer Nov 2013 #427

When someone gets that worked up about an internet discussion forum rudolph the red Nov 2013 #328

Are you equating Taverner to indigenous people? Bahahahaha Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #292

Will is correct jpak Nov 2013 #410

Off the deep end...quelle dommage alcibiades_mystery Nov 2013 #45

Oh, that's too bad. I worried about him a little. nolabear Nov 2013 #47

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #48

Bwa-ha-ha. You know this after FIVE Posts? Do tell us who you used to be here? Hekate Nov 2013 #74

Hmm. Looking at his profile, it appears that the problem wasn't "independent thinking" winter is coming Nov 2013 #88

You know what though, at least it's not fucking YouTube and Google + snooper2 Nov 2013 #141

Holyshit that had me rolling! Rex Nov 2013 #261

OMG Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2013 #327

Tanks for a Great Laugh 4Q2u2 Nov 2013 #369

Omg...thank you for posting that! I can't stop laughing. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #377

this guy tries to be comical. but turns out he is unintentionally comical Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #417

"Francis" is his YT character, he's actually a nice guy. joshcryer Nov 2013 #428

you let the secret out! snooper2 Nov 2013 #442

Good. Although we need interactive discussion here jazzimov Nov 2013 #49

If he was a troll he kept it up for many years. xmas74 Nov 2013 #51

Taverner was not a troll. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #56

+1 leftstreet Nov 2013 #94

Exactly. xmas74 Nov 2013 #308

Perhaps not a troll but definitely stupid intaglio Nov 2013 #388

Man I'm good sharp_stick Nov 2013 #53

I don't think it was a matter of getting caught. pintobean Nov 2013 #62

I think you're right sharp_stick Nov 2013 #85

I hate this thread TomClash Nov 2013 #57

The jury system is a joke and then this. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #60

The jury system is a mistake or designed to censure and enforce lock step. L0oniX Nov 2013 #363

Agreed. The community is diminished by Taverner's absence 1000words Nov 2013 #77

+1 Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #86

THIS WilliamPitt Nov 2013 #91

He also was very polarizing. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #97

and you aren't polarizing? CreekDog Nov 2013 #132

I'm not the one trashing DU on Facebook. nt Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #164

you do it here CreekDog Nov 2013 #191

Aww, poor baby. Let me submit my posts to you first Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #192

Case in point. woo me with science Nov 2013 #306

Oh, it's you. Now I get it. nt Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #280

+1 L0oniX Nov 2013 #358

That is really too bad. I wish him and his father well, or peace at least. uppityperson Nov 2013 #61

I'll miss the guy....faults aside, he seemed to be a pretty decent & principled fellow. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #69

He was a member of Socialist Progressives, a group I help host. Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #72

Yes, I considered Tavener a valued member of our group as well - TBF Nov 2013 #92

He once claimed to have gotten shot in the leg on his way home that day. Schema Thing Nov 2013 #82

Wow Cal Carpenter Nov 2013 #90

'bout time demosincebirth Nov 2013 #101

for you, Taverner - where ever you are: Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2013 #108

I liked that..Concrete Blond! rdharma Nov 2013 #137

I am sorrry to hear this, though I understand he virtually "asked for it" at the end. nt tblue37 Nov 2013 #113

Aw, sad! Iggo Nov 2013 #125

Oh man, that is sad. Skip Intro Nov 2013 #142

Watch this space for a rare thing CreekDog Nov 2013 #248

Well shit. Dr. Strange Nov 2013 #439

I used to wonder whether his persona was an intentional parody of a crazed far-leftist, Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #157

There's a very wide range on this site - TBF Nov 2013 #312

A storyteller. A fiction writer lost in their own fiction. Schema Thing Nov 2013 #319

I can see why he was so frustrated, however. HuckleB Nov 2013 #161

+1 1000words Nov 2013 #184

Alas, you are right. -eom- HuckleB Nov 2013 #187

Totally agree. go west young man Nov 2013 #228

+1000 HuckleB Nov 2013 #242

+1 nt PassingFair Nov 2013 #349

And yet posters who claim all Arabs are child-murdering death cultists get to stick around Scootaloo Nov 2013 #167

If you can provide a link even to one post that claims that all Arabs are murderers, Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #205

Close enough. Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #212

Exactly the poster I was referring to Scootaloo Nov 2013 #222

What a coincedence! That's the one I thought of too... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #233

Oh! I wish I had known, I would have baked a cake! Scootaloo Nov 2013 #235

That's really an ugly post. NealK Nov 2013 #238

The upside is that lately Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #256

not even close. try again. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #420

Have there been recent posts of that nature? I'm not doubting you, I'm asking honestly nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #217

Pabs already posted one...and that's one of many... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #246

but a fan of "scholarship" azurnoir Nov 2013 #301

That's just the tip of the iceberg that's tolerated here NuclearDem Nov 2013 #224

Oh, I know Scootaloo Nov 2013 #229

+1 idwiyo Nov 2013 #302

+10000 And constant trashing of liberals and liberal economic policies. nt woo me with science Nov 2013 #307

Lots of old timers have gotten the axe. PeteSelman Nov 2013 #168

Every DUer is a Troll to at LEAST one other DUer. It's the nature of the Democratic Party. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #194

The key is to not take the place so seriously. 1000words Nov 2013 #198

^^^^Good Advice^^^^^ FSogol Nov 2013 #314

fresh air does wonders. Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #342

Taverner, datasuspect, RZM - Very surprised by all these quinnox Nov 2013 #200

oh? CreekDog Nov 2013 #294

LOL. Soon we will only be left with milquetoast trolls, right? FSogol Nov 2013 #315

Sorry to hear that. I liked him. He had fire. BlueJazz Nov 2013 #202

I liked Taverner Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #203

He should be reinstated. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #219

His account was on review so long because he kept emailing bad stuff to the admin uppityperson Nov 2013 #300

If that's what he did, then good riddance. n/t flvegan Nov 2013 #204

I've been here since 2001 and having read through this thread, so glad I am out of the SammyWinstonJack Nov 2013 #206

Hah! pipi_k Nov 2013 #362

I also... sibelian Nov 2013 #412

Raise the hue & cry!1! JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #226

To me, what stands out in this thread ... 1000words Nov 2013 #240

He made death threats to the admins and intentionally broke their rules. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #271

maybe he was upset he didn't get his Pacifist group JI7 Nov 2013 #283

Hahaha. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #285

I agree! JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #372

Seriously. He wasn't banned for his ideas/convictions, he was banned for being OTT nasty to everyone FSogol Nov 2013 #311

He was our Bobby Kennedy Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #385

lolz Good one! JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #436

Sucks. A DUer in a bad place. hunter Nov 2013 #232

i'm pretty sure the admin will let him back on if he apologizes JI7 Nov 2013 #234

I'm going to miss him, I always enjoyed his posts and comments. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #236

I didn't know him that well davidpdx Nov 2013 #237

on the one hand DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #239

Fug with the bull, expect the horn lpbk2713 Nov 2013 #241

No one can do it - but you... OmahaBlueDog Nov 2013 #245

Thank you. antiquie Nov 2013 #376

Wow Marrah_G Nov 2013 #250

Wow! His recent ones were a bit over the top Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #252

Wow Renew Deal Nov 2013 #253

Fucking hell. Jamastiene Nov 2013 #266

He'll be back. nt BootinUp Nov 2013 #275

I was on earlier today and saw this come through MIRT and I was sorry to see it. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #288

I am sorry to hear this I thought he posted some interesting stuff nt littlewolf Nov 2013 #303

that's a shame G_j Nov 2013 #316

he posted an epic rant on facebook about his tombstoning... madrchsod Nov 2013 #317

Wow, that Facebook group is a study in bitterness, self-aggrandizement, and mental illness alcibiades_mystery Nov 2013 #325

The person over there calling me a troll pintobean Nov 2013 #329

I've read as much as I need to (about two minutes of their insane ranting) alcibiades_mystery Nov 2013 #331

You noticed that too? zappaman Nov 2013 #354

That's when I started cackling. Brickbat Nov 2013 #391

Wow, DU for me stays on DU. Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #344

Wow, that sounds somewhat interesting. Hayabusa Nov 2013 #356

That toxic Facebook page is home to lots of folks MineralMan Nov 2013 #365

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Nov 2013 #374

Unpleasant people alcibiades_mystery Nov 2013 #403

There are certainly some of those there. MineralMan Nov 2013 #405

Yup. Agschmid Nov 2013 #443

For some people it is like Rex Nov 2013 #322

He knew exactly what he was doing. pintobean Nov 2013 #326

That's too bad - it's always a shame when someone gets PPRed. nt el_bryanto Nov 2013 #330

Gravedancing threads are unbecoming, and I hate them. Orsino Nov 2013 #334

I'm sure the OP did not mean for this to turn into a gravedancing thread Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #337

How sweet of you pintobean Nov 2013 #343

Death in his family Ichingcarpenter Nov 2013 #338

That explains a Lot. The emotional roller coaster of losing someone close can be brutal. adirondacker Nov 2013 #383

Especially if one posts a legitimate OP... bvar22 Nov 2013 #465

I almost always liked what Taverner had to say... even when I disagreed JCMach1 Nov 2013 #389

When did we all go back to middle school? FedUpWithIt All Nov 2013 #390

This thread tho. Brickbat Nov 2013 #392

I have taken a break from DU for a few weeks and I cannot remember if I liked Taverner or not. Vinnie From Indy Nov 2013 #400

That's a shame. I always looked forward to reading his posts. Owl Nov 2013 #408

I understand the intention of the post... defacto7 Nov 2013 #411

That's too bad. LWolf Nov 2013 #421

+1 n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Nov 2013 #422

Taverner was the only DUer I ever put on only PM ignore. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #423

Who? Orrex Nov 2013 #434

Walt Starr has still set the standard to which all DU self-destructs Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #435

Indeed. Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #445

Damn! This certainly generated discussion. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #437

Gone. Let it fucking sink already. Wanna pay MORE for your Star next year? (bandwidth) cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #438

Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #444

Skinner Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #451

Link here pintobean Nov 2013 #453

" . . . to catch and remove malicious intruders . . ." Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #454

"likely to happen if a member gets too many posts hidden in a relatively brief length of time" pintobean Nov 2013 #455

Taverner was not a malicious intruder. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #457

Admin did not make a mistake. pintobean Nov 2013 #464

Yes, he did. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #466

No, while under flagged for review BainsBane Nov 2013 #473

After being ignored for a few hours? For a few days? For a week? Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #474

Flagged for review happens automatically BainsBane Nov 2013 #475

Skinner can reinstate Taverner. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #476

Not since DU3 pintobean Nov 2013 #484

Taverner was NOT a malicious intruder. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #495

I don't care what you do pintobean Nov 2013 #496

Groovy. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #497

You're wrong. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #512

I guess it's not really groovy, huh? pintobean Nov 2013 #514

I'm just making comments in this thread. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #530

Really? Do you expect anyone to believe pintobean Nov 2013 #531

The first post I made in this section of the thread was directed to Skinner. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #532

And I directed you to his announcement thread pintobean Nov 2013 #533

My first post in this section of the thread was directed to Skinner. Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #534

He has 7 days to appeal. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #501

But Tavener sent Skinner some really nasty emails before he was nuked... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #504

I'm pretty sure the review policy went into effect immediately. MineralMan Nov 2013 #460

about damn time WolverineDG Nov 2013 #452

I'm inclined to agree. sibelian Nov 2013 #459

477 ileus Nov 2013 #477

Taverner and datasuspect were two of my absolute favorite DU-ers Tom Ripley Nov 2013 #479

'bout fuckin' time. n/t tabasco Nov 2013 #481

I think I even miss that goddam Maurice. A-Schwarzenegger Nov 2013 #486

DU rec...nt SidDithers Nov 2013 #500

I read this whole thread, and I think this auto flagged for review thing is a mistake quinnox Nov 2013 #508

It's meant as a time out BainsBane Nov 2013 #510

+1... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #513

Admin is harassing their members? pintobean Nov 2013 #515

Do you know... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #516

Two within about an hour. pintobean Nov 2013 #517

Two... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #518

Alert stalkers can't get posts hidden pintobean Nov 2013 #520

i was very civil. the height of civility. i was blunt, seabeyond Nov 2013 #521

Long time DUers... TeeYiYi Nov 2013 #522

I agree here. PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #523

It was his follow up actions that got him banned. tammywammy Nov 2013 #524

I do not know specifics, so can not comment on them. n/t PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #526

It's in the PPR message. tammywammy Nov 2013 #527

How on earth does flagged for review represent a move to the right? BainsBane Nov 2013 #525

We are all guests here pintobean Nov 2013 #528

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Nov 2013 #529

Kick pintobean Nov 2013 #538

Dude, my thread was winning taterguy Nov 2013 #539

I realized pintobean Nov 2013 #540