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TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
14. Don't be saddling "the left" with a fresh take on the right wing think tanks plan
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 01:11 AM
Nov 2013

Leaving that to the side, what the hell do you think we can do about making a fundamentally flawed and fairly wrongheaded that hasn't even had structural flaws exposed yet work now?

The thinking is all out of order, spin all day salesmanship only mean so much, if the law has problems we can't wish them away and you can't just shout them down. That isn't "fixing it later", that is piling on the shit in a bout of faith based politics and insistence on failure because of the kneejerk and largely condescending and accusatory reactionary response to issues and concerns whether real or imagined.

The same people being told to shut the fuck up and suck it are the very folks you are trying to sell and are supposed to be helping.

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the ACA is not from "the left" villager Nov 2013 #1
That dog won't hunt. gulliver Nov 2013 #3
More's the pity then, eh? Since the left kind of warned the center-right about all this villager Nov 2013 #5
Yep. n/t progressoid Nov 2013 #15
HIPPA Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #27
Bookmarked. enlightenment Nov 2013 #2
I agree with you. The ACA is a waystation on the road to single-payer. MADem Nov 2013 #4
Honest question: 1000words Nov 2013 #6
Because written into the ACA is the ability for any state to start their own Single Payer plan... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #7
Thank you, VR 1000words Nov 2013 #8
+++ Whisp Nov 2013 #9
It's superfluous Morganfleeman Nov 2013 #12
not just codified....encouraged...as an approved alternative plan.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #13
Yup. If it fails, Americans won't trust any idea of government-run healthcare... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #10
From government run health insurance Lifelong Dem Nov 2013 #11
Don't be saddling "the left" with a fresh take on the right wing think tanks plan TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #14
Are you predicting that, if ACA fails, there will be a big push to abolish Medicare? Jim Lane Nov 2013 #16
Government healthcare either succeeds for fails with Obamacare Democat Nov 2013 #17
No, because the ACA is not government healthcare... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #20
What makes single payer inevitable? Many countries use a different system Recursion Nov 2013 #18
This assumes no efforts to divorce corporatist healthcare like the ACA... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #19
To many Americans this is "public healthcare" Democat Nov 2013 #21
How is the conclusion being drawn that the ACA is govt. provided health care? area51 Nov 2013 #22
The Heritage Foundation is now "the left"? Fumesucker Nov 2013 #23
I despise the ACA. It is corporatist fascism at its worse Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #24
Should we set our hair on fire? nt bemildred Nov 2013 #25
I don't see that at all. LWolf Nov 2013 #26
if ACA succeeds, why do we need to change? alc Nov 2013 #28
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