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Can't get to the article Chuuku Davis Nov 2013 #1
trying to see why the link isn't working FirstLight Nov 2013 #3
Worked for me. n/t RebelOne Nov 2013 #6
Near poverty is when average cost of living expenditures are equal or close to total income. haele Nov 2013 #23
Thank you for that. Bohunk68 Nov 2013 #45
Yeah, it's more accurate to say that 80% of Americans aren't all that financially secure, at best. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #112
Poverty is everywhere now billhicks76 Nov 2013 #132
Yes, not one branch or one party. merrily Nov 2013 #2
Because we live in a plutocracy. Rex Nov 2013 #4
so we just give a simple one sentence answer and forget about it? FirstLight Nov 2013 #5
There is no critical mass, people will get used to living with far far less. Rex Nov 2013 #12
Sadly, this is the way I see it too, constant adjustment to disaster capitalism. Also, I think RKP5637 Nov 2013 #72
Unfortunately I agree Cosmocat Nov 2013 #169
Who says a one sentence post = forgetting about anything in real life? merrily Nov 2013 #21
We need that smilie here at DU. Brigid Nov 2013 #91
I hate it when I hear 'Both sides are at fault' Iwasthere Nov 2013 #7
nope FirstLight Nov 2013 #11
The record shows aggressive pursuit of a corporate agenda. woo me with science Nov 2013 #17
FUCK yeah! FirstLight Nov 2013 #20
Exactly what is happening, the surveillance noose is tighting all of the time, every minute RKP5637 Nov 2013 #80
People look at me funny Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #41
It's absurd, isn't it. woo me with science Nov 2013 #49
+++ 1,000,000,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #83
That is the essence of it, apparently, in the USA. Ghost Dog Nov 2013 #109
It's time for the rise of the socialist party passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #190
In short, R=D when it comes to $$$$$, but many live in denial of that fact. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #76
Your video link is no longer available Oilwellian Nov 2013 #116
Thank you for the heads up. I've replaced it. woo me with science Nov 2013 #117
I agree with your sentiments. merrily Nov 2013 #141
Great post and it's exactly what you say it is. truedelphi Nov 2013 #185
the corporatists, D and R, are to blame. HooptieWagon Nov 2013 #32
Maybe we are, too. merrily Nov 2013 #143
I love PBO. Still, the Presidency is a very well-paying, lifetime position. It pays much better libdem4life Nov 2013 #53
I hope that what you posted is simply your opinion. sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #133
I didn't say that. It is a job and it pays very, very well, as it should. It holds historical libdem4life Nov 2013 #137
Well, I don't disagree with most of what you said, including that he was never sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #181
Funny, I just wrote a post that helped me clear up that war vote...I strongly opposed that. But libdem4life Nov 2013 #186
Well, I live in Ny and did at that time. Most NYers did not want a war in Iraq and those who sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #195
Thank you for your reply of experience and your thoughts. I was in the Flower Power Generation on libdem4life Nov 2013 #199
+1 merrily Nov 2013 #138
It's that a second term does not turn a President back into a Populist. He has a legacy to build libdem4life Nov 2013 #187
Somewhere along the way he became a millionaire too 7962 Nov 2013 #75
I am sorry but BOTH SIDES ARE AT FAULT. truedelphi Nov 2013 #176
Because the median net worth of a US Congress person is $6.5 million. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2013 #8
true, historically and psychologically FirstLight Nov 2013 #14
We've been in a Class War with Republicans at least since Reagan, Agnosticsherbet Nov 2013 #25
Americans are held in a financially repressive society, nothing akin to jacquerie among the poor RKP5637 Nov 2013 #88
As a species, we've probably been in class warfare with the rich and/or powerful merrily Nov 2013 #140
The most recent Woody Allen movie featured a grocery store LibDemAlways Nov 2013 #54
You're absolutely right .. even these renowned film makers can't get it right .. they're too rich. YOHABLO Nov 2013 #131
$3000 a month or more. In reality she'd be commuting in from Oakland or Concord. diane in sf Nov 2013 #139
Way MORE than $1500 a month in San Francisco SoCalDem Nov 2013 #158
That's what gets me about Modern Family fasttense Nov 2013 #166
The Honeymooners. Sognefjord Nov 2013 #198
$1,500? Beacool Nov 2013 #197
As long as very rich people get richer, all is right with the world. valerief Nov 2013 #9
Reminds me of the line from Lear...Replace "gods" with "rich." Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #24
Old school. Now they do it because they think the "takers" deserve to die. merrily Nov 2013 #144
It's shocking how coldly indifferent to suffering and death so many rightwingers are. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #172
At, below, or near gollygee Nov 2013 #10
I salute your outrage, but question your stats Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #13
not my stats, but you are going to turn away just because it isn't *that* bad? FirstLight Nov 2013 #19
Nobody's turning away from anything Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #29
Errr, correction needed dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #114
Fair enough Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #123
You literally said you didn't say exactly what you said - enough said dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #125
Really? That's what you're hanging your hat on? Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #126
OK, sorry dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #128
Facts matter. I'm poor and I was questioning those stats cali Nov 2013 #30
And that was my point Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #47
The median household income in 2012 was over 50,000, pnwmom Nov 2013 #69
a $50K income anywhere in Maine is very high. In NYC, San Francisco, Honolulu... magical thyme Nov 2013 #163
And the median is much higher in those cities. It still doesn't work out pnwmom Nov 2013 #175
Agreed. And I followed the links to the source, which is a study that showed that 80% struggled... magical thyme Nov 2013 #184
Poverty line is different in each community dickthegrouch Nov 2013 #43
Agree on all points Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #50
You missed the point entirely..... llmart Nov 2013 #78
You've got a curious definition of "middle class" Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #121
oh, I think it can be a decent life hfojvt Nov 2013 #164
...actually OmahaBlueDog Nov 2013 #98
Agree, doesn't seem quite right treestar Nov 2013 #182
What is meant by "4th quintile of US household income" truedelphi Nov 2013 #188
A quintile is 20% Proud Public Servant Nov 2013 #193
Got it. truedelphi Nov 2013 #201
That 80% number simply isn't true. Captain Stern Nov 2013 #15
Uhhhhhhh....what exactly is your definition of "Near"? jeff47 Nov 2013 #16
+1 CountAllVotes Nov 2013 #40
+ a lot. I imagine almost everyone has been unemployed at some point in their lives 7962 Nov 2013 #81
Single payer zipplewrath Nov 2013 #18
Huge K&R. It should be an emergency. But what is on the horizon? woo me with science Nov 2013 #22
I am so right there with you... FirstLight Nov 2013 #31
Hey, woo me with science, here's some math. pnwmom Nov 2013 #73
Because the GOP controls Congress and want to see non-GOPers suffer and blame Obama AND kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #26
And some would rather shout "It's not Obama's fault" than to face the actual problem Doctor_J Nov 2013 #33
Owned? How can you say owned? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #93
I think the country has been mortgaged dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #115
Well stated. Ace Acme Nov 2013 #127
Food Stamps were cut recently. That's House, Senate and Oval Office. merrily Nov 2013 #145
Probably not a national emergency because your numbers are way off.... cbdo2007 Nov 2013 #27
again, not MY numbers...but hey, that's a good enough reason to NOT care, right? FirstLight Nov 2013 #34
actually it is....nobody wants to have a discussion with someone with incorrect facts. cbdo2007 Nov 2013 #38
They aren't? lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #59
...except that the OP isn't about income equality... brooklynite Nov 2013 #67
If the claim is that "80% of americans are below poverty" how could it not be about inequality? lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #94
+10000 Valid numbers that illustrate the emergency have been posted all over this thread. woo me with science Nov 2013 #108
Those numbers are HUGELY off - it's more like 15-16% Yo_Mama Nov 2013 #120
This is the callous, dismissive garbage we have come to expect from the Third Way. woo me with science Nov 2013 #39
Facts are now "callous, dismissive garbage"??? That is exactly the problem. cbdo2007 Nov 2013 #71
Facts are not dismissive, but your post was dismissive. merrily Nov 2013 #146
+1000 Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #113
It is! The PTB want to get it up to 95% or so. Doctor_J Nov 2013 #28
In a country where money is speech, the poor are voiceless. eShirl Nov 2013 #35
you win - sums it up perfectly FirstLight Nov 2013 #37
+10000 woo me with science Nov 2013 #52
Well said!!! Exactly!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #92
100% of Americans cannot walk*! alcibiades_mystery Nov 2013 #36
OK, that one almost made me spit out the drink....... 7962 Nov 2013 #89
You win the thread... SidDithers Nov 2013 #124
sorry, forget I said anything FirstLight Nov 2013 #42
Oh please. jeff47 Nov 2013 #58
... FirstLight Nov 2013 #60
Reading beyond the first sentence might be a good idea. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #61
Sure. So would some empathy for a fellow DUer on food stamps who just had them cut and merrily Nov 2013 #152
Except that's not what she was doing in this thread. jeff47 Nov 2013 #168
Yes, that is what she was doing in this thread. Just not explicitly. merrily Nov 2013 #170
don't let them get to you questionseverything Nov 2013 #173
the medium income is bs since the millionaires and billionaires are averaged into that passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #191
Wow. merrily Nov 2013 #151
Poverty sucks and our system is lacking in fairness and safety nets Matariki Nov 2013 #44
Because rich people own every media source in the country Taitertots Nov 2013 #46
not shiny and new, not newsworthy, won't sell products (what the media thinks) NRaleighLiberal Nov 2013 #48
In a historical context, this nation is ripe for signficant social unrest. 1000words Nov 2013 #51
Wish I did and you'd never know it from this thread. merrily Nov 2013 #147
that's it right there FirstLight Nov 2013 #179
A real national emergency is when some pop star shakes her butt on TeeVee. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #55
Yeah. And our pop stars can't even do that right agent46 Nov 2013 #68
Since when is 50 million people 80% of the population of over doc03 Nov 2013 #56
"At or near." The near part must suck up a lot of people. pnwmom Nov 2013 #63
I am a retired person and own my home. It's a mobile home, RebelOne Nov 2013 #79
The other thing I realized is that the national median household income pnwmom Nov 2013 #86
Median on wage income is a different statistic than median on population. haele Nov 2013 #105
The groups you listed are included in median household income figures. pnwmom Nov 2013 #107
The stat in the actual article is 80% are at or near poverty at some point in their lives jeff47 Nov 2013 #90
Well, that explains it. Probably 80% depends on a regular job to get by. pnwmom Nov 2013 #96
Exactly. Doesn't mean it isn't a problem, but it does require a different fix. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #97
Because another 10 percent TBF Nov 2013 #57
It's not a national emergency agent46 Nov 2013 #62
This is what FREEDOM feels like..... DeSwiss Nov 2013 #64
+100000 woo me with science Nov 2013 #84
Just checked census site jehop61 Nov 2013 #65
The US public has been dumbed down so much that . . . aggiesal Nov 2013 #66
It would be an emergency if it were TRUE, but it isn't. pnwmom Nov 2013 #70
Then lower the line for Gods sake. Bonhomme Richard Nov 2013 #74
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50 million is 16% of the population Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #82
Really? ananda Nov 2013 #85
It is a simple answer, too many of those in poverty votes for candidates who take good care of the Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #87
It starts with deciding who are the candidates, though. merrily Nov 2013 #148
I don't have time to read the whole thread now...but passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #95
I hope that when you do read the whole thread, you will cut the OP some slack. merrily Nov 2013 #149
You are correct Merrily passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #192
I didn't think is was that bad Jack Rabbit Nov 2013 #99
"What will it take?".... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #100
Because the rich rule the world liberal N proud Nov 2013 #101
That...just...isn't...true. Throd Nov 2013 #102
Why? ReRe Nov 2013 #103
I agree it's higher than it should be in this great country.. Chakaconcarne Nov 2013 #104
It's pretty simple why LittleBlue Nov 2013 #106
Shocking Study: 4 out of 5 in USA Face Near-Poverty and Unemployment < Is the headline jtuck004 Nov 2013 #110
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I don't think your statistics are correct. BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #118
Because it isn't true!!! Try 15 - 16% Yo_Mama Nov 2013 #119
Its not a national emergency because the information is bogus bhikkhu Nov 2013 #122
But I love how certain posters are determined to K&R even though these numbers are way off Number23 Nov 2013 #129
115 recs for this turd... SidDithers Nov 2013 #156
Stupidity knows no political boundary Android3.14 Nov 2013 #162
Neither does insenstivity. merrily Nov 2013 #171
Your right, of course Android3.14 Nov 2013 #180
Legal double standards are a fact of American life now, too. Until Wall St. cons go to jail, that's ancianita Nov 2013 #130
The Oligarchs And Corporations Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us cantbeserious Nov 2013 #134
The title is misleading BainsBane Nov 2013 #135
It is where our political/corporate leaders want us. ronnie624 Nov 2013 #136
Because the 1% owns everything, including DC and the Media. blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #142
First Light, I am sorry that you are in this situation and also sorry merrily Nov 2013 #150
thanks FirstLight Nov 2013 #183
The real numbers are bad enough scheming daemons Nov 2013 #153
Exactly DFW Nov 2013 #155
Nailed it...nt SidDithers Nov 2013 #157
When we dig down into the report, we learn the magic phrase "for at least parts of their lives..." MADem Nov 2013 #177
Reminds me of The Hunger Games Clear Blue Sky Nov 2013 #154
This message was self-deleted by its author Android3.14 Nov 2013 #159
The 80th percentile has an income Progressive dog Nov 2013 #160
Uh...no. Android3.14 Nov 2013 #161
Will we have to reach critical mass and be on the brink of starvation before we 'storm the bastille' CrispyQ Nov 2013 #165
It is always so amazing to come in contact with people in their early twenties. truedelphi Nov 2013 #189
Trickle Down is Buy-Partisan. Octafish Nov 2013 #167
The headline is so false that this OP is highly counter-productive cthulu2016 Nov 2013 #174
It is a cherry pick of this story from back in July... MADem Nov 2013 #178
"reliance on government assistance" = S.S. and Medicare, for example. Govt pensions, maybe. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #194
There's something wrong with that figure, 80% of Americans are not at or below the poverty level. Beacool Nov 2013 #196
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What? hrmjustin Nov 2013 #202
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