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In reply to the discussion: so what is exactly wrong with socialism? [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)Ownership, efficiency, choices, accountability, low cost for consumers, less tax dollars, reliability and independence from government.
I live in an area where the electric company is owned by the city. It owns the area where the power is being generated and all of the equipment to make it. It is the purely socialist model of a necessary resource.
Regarding each of their buzzwords:
Ownership, capitalism, profit, shareholders:
When asked by people living in red states who complain about their power bills by private companies, and try to mealy mouth about how the power companies need to make a profit, I explain there is no profit needed.
WE, THE PUBLIC, ARE THE OWNERS, WE ARE THE SHAREHOLDERS WHEN WE PAY OUR BILLS. WE PROFIT FROM HAVING A SYSTEM THAT WORKS FOR US.
That absolutely stuns them as they never thought of socialism that way.
Regarding, efficiency, choices, accountability:
We the rate payers and citizens, are involved in the process. We determine if we want power from water, gas, coal, wind or solar. We invest to keep the cost down for all of us. The system is efficient because we demand that the rates be kept low, and ours are among the lowest in the USA. They are accountable to us at the ballot box.
Regarding the complaint of low cost for consumers, less tax dollars, reliability and independence from government:
All the same thing. We do things that red areas see as frivolous, encouraging conservation by working together. We don't need subsidies or taking tax dollars to make it work. People who have solar reverse the reading on their meter, making them more independent from the grid. And all at union wages, with safety measures for the workers and public.
Anyway, that is just one example of education.