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71. No. Not even for him.

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Father-of-two, 25, sentenced to life for stealing a POWER TOOL - Louisiana [View all] Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 OP

That prison sentence spounds pretty "cruel and unusual" to me...nt GReedDiamond Nov 2013 #1

This is what happens in a society where many prison systems are "for profit"..... TheDebbieDee Nov 2013 #11

It is. A long enough stretch might get him off drugs, though Warpy Nov 2013 #27

Really? Up to TEN YEARS for a $750 fuckin dollar theft?... GReedDiamond Nov 2013 #28

It's a long string of petty thefts Warpy Nov 2013 #29

Over $500, theft is a Felony. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #30

hmm, yes. Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #32

yeah, that's the ticket. Life imprisonment as drug treatment. cali Nov 2013 #35

Drug policy in the US is one big circular argument Major Nikon Nov 2013 #81

I can see public service and forcing him to pay back the money over time, but bluestate10 Nov 2013 #2

I agree, nobody should ever be jailed for life for a non violent crime gopiscrap Nov 2013 #8

even for stealing and destroying Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #33

The punishment should be proportional. Putting someone in prison for life for bluestate10 Nov 2013 #52

Ridiculous... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #36

Jail time, especially in US prisons, is ineffective when it comes to... eqfan592 Nov 2013 #82

"...with liberty and justice for all." silverweb Nov 2013 #3

These 32 People Are Spending Their Lives In Prison For Nonviolent Crimes Tx4obama Nov 2013 #4

thanks for the link Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #6

And yet people are getting nothing and next to nothing for rape. PeteSelman Nov 2013 #5

Well, when your culture glorifies violence, denigrates women, and regards property as holy... Scootaloo Nov 2013 #10

Too true. PeteSelman Nov 2013 #12

yep, that's about the size of things. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #20

yet in Alabama some scum bag raped a neighbor 2x when she was a child gopiscrap Nov 2013 #7

Man mins and three strikes laws should be ended everywhere. morningfog Nov 2013 #9

These are staples for the "for profit" systems... TheDebbieDee Nov 2013 #13

I've never understood those laws at all. polly7 Nov 2013 #19

Holy shit ! He's white. And he still got life ?? russspeakeasy Nov 2013 #14

He's also poor jmowreader Nov 2013 #23

Yes it is. russspeakeasy Nov 2013 #25

Louisiana's multiple offender law Sgent Nov 2013 #55

Insane A Little Weird Nov 2013 #15

YAY for the prison for profit industry in the 'land of the free and home of the brave'. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2013 #16

Medival 90-percent Nov 2013 #17

If there's any organization in America that needs our support, it's the ACLU. mountain grammy Nov 2013 #18

I can't think of any non-violent crime that justifies a life sentence penultimate Nov 2013 #21

Bernie Madoff? i think life is appropriate for him scheming daemons Nov 2013 #37

True, he stole from the wealthy, that is unconscionable n/t Fumesucker Nov 2013 #41

No. Not even for him. morningfog Nov 2013 #71

He was a public fall guy. defacto7 Nov 2013 #79

The problem is that many non-violent crimes are felonies to help those doing them get arrested... cascadiance Nov 2013 #42

This has not been the only white man in Louisiana to 35 years for committing the same Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #22

Bad decisions, sure. Deserving of life in prison? Absolutely not. morningfog Nov 2013 #26

A thief does not get high marks in my book, especially when they steal from hard working people and Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #43

That may all be true, but life in prison for it is barbaric. morningfog Nov 2013 #56

Who decides who is hard working and who is not? defacto7 Nov 2013 #80

Would you assume the thief who took the welding machine to be hard working in stealing from others? Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #83

I agree with some of your statement... defacto7 Nov 2013 #84

Yes there are choices and some make the wrong choice. Being sentenced to prison is Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #85

A few questions.... defacto7 Nov 2013 #86

If I am not mistaken this guy was convicted under Habitual Offender, you have to be arrested Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #87

... defacto7 Nov 2013 #89

In three years in prison, he's completed his GED and a drug treatement program. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #31

Did he make the person he stole from whole and did the person he stole tools from lost wages from Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #44

Insufficient detail. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #45

Why should the general public be subject to life of having those who thinks stealing is okay, what Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #46

I'll start with the 8th amendment. Nevermind general human compassion/hope for AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #48

We should start with not stealing in the first place, he did not learn the first time so Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #49

Sympathy != Compassion. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #50

Oh, are you thinking of sympathy and compassion of the person who was robbed? If you are thinking Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #51

Quite a bit. I take a very dim view of theft. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #53

Is the sentence strong? let's see if i can answer this again. There was a charge of theft, did he Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #59

Two of the charges occurred within minutes of each other. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #70

I think your "thinkingabout" is an act. morningfog Nov 2013 #58

Are you properly named, how do you find my name is an act if you are in a fog, my goodness. Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #60

HAHAHAHA. That is hilarious. morningfog Nov 2013 #57

yada, yada, yada Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #61

The tough on crime act is right wing bullshit and counterproductive. morningfog Nov 2013 #62

Your fog is showing through again, you don't know what you are talking about, in fact you are Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #63

You support a hardline extremist position. morningfog Nov 2013 #64

I can take the ridicule, that's nothing for me, it seems you might be a bit out of step. I don't Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #66

I am shocked at your lack of understanding. morningfog Nov 2013 #67

You think I have a lack of understanding, perhaps understanding there is a three strike Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #68

I find your positions abhorrent and antithetical to liberalism and human decency. morningfog Nov 2013 #69

So you think I have never visited in a prison, wrong again. Human decency, do you find a thief with Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #72

How do you feel about an eye for an eye? morningfog Nov 2013 #74

Perhaps if this guy had been more interested in working (laboring to some) rather than collecting Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #75

I have been robbed recently but I don't think a thief should spend life in prison for theft johnlucas Nov 2013 #24

You have to remember "fit the crime", the life sentence was not for a crime, it is for the habitual Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #54

You have to remember that habitual offender laws are arcane bullshit. morningfog Nov 2013 #65

What he does not deserve is some else's possessions. Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #76

I'm done with your tripe. Adios. morningfog Nov 2013 #77

Good Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #78

He should have stolen a few billion dollars. Then he'd be paid a bonus with taxpayer dollars. Scuba Nov 2013 #34

Amen. White collar crime pays. n/t Lodestar Nov 2013 #88

Tax payers should be outraged! B Calm Nov 2013 #38

I have low tolerance for unrepentant criminals... CFLDem Nov 2013 #39

In this day and age, it makes sense that the worst of us Rex Nov 2013 #40

Sure it has nothing to do with the prison-industrial complex here n/t MountainLaurel Nov 2013 #47

Private prison industry LOVES these "Habitual offender" laws davidn3600 Nov 2013 #73