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In reply to the discussion: so what is exactly wrong with socialism? [View all]idwiyo
(5,113 posts)110. Soviet-style "communism" was not communism or socialism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
I am for combination of all of the forms of social ownership as listed above, and state ownership of
- healthcare (like NHS or Canada),
- emergency services (police, rescue, education, mail, etc),
- all main power utilities, but allow and encourage development of small scale private power installations with ability to sell to main power grid
- water utilities
- all natural resources
Excellent example of co-op ownership is described here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation
Electoral system based on Single Transferable Vote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote
Law System based on Universal Human Rights, as in - any law that contravenes Universal Human Rights will be impossible to enact.
Socialism is an economic system characterized by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy. "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.
I am for combination of all of the forms of social ownership as listed above, and state ownership of
- healthcare (like NHS or Canada),
- emergency services (police, rescue, education, mail, etc),
- all main power utilities, but allow and encourage development of small scale private power installations with ability to sell to main power grid
- water utilities
- all natural resources
Excellent example of co-op ownership is described here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation
Electoral system based on Single Transferable Vote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote
Law System based on Universal Human Rights, as in - any law that contravenes Universal Human Rights will be impossible to enact.
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Thanks PeaceNikki. Amazing the number of folks right here in Wisconsin who have no clue ...
Scuba
Nov 2013
#113
They do equate socialism with communism, but even then I believe they are making a huge error...
rwsanders
Nov 2013
#53
Well, we've already tried the lassez-faire thing for a few decades, and the result is ~20%
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#81
If by "socialism" you mean Social Democracy, or something like it, I'm inclined to agree.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#88
Why does it have to be a choice between pure socialism and pure capitalism?
MyNameGoesHere
Nov 2013
#46
Exactly. Things don't have to be the way they are now, but they don't have to be like the U.S.S.R.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#90
When I cam to this country I was shocked that republicans were actually RED!!!
Rosa Luxemburg
Nov 2013
#63
Socialism only moves slowly because it is prevented from doing so by big bad US corporations/repubs
Rosa Luxemburg
Nov 2013
#56
Our collective amygala has been trained to hate and fear it, but not define it.
arcane1
Nov 2013
#58
So what's wrong with socialism? - "Nothing" say the people of Seattle who just elected a Socialist
OutNow
Nov 2013
#59
If socialism is so great, there must be many thriving, prosperous, socialist countries,
Nye Bevan
Nov 2013
#61
True - capitalism is required to generate the wealth needed to make socialism work
hack89
Nov 2013
#129
Sweden? Denmark? May not be "pure" socialism but no one said they had to be...
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#95
It's the kind of "socialism" I would tend to favor, anyhow. Can't speak for anyone else.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#97
Workers do not control the means of production, so not entirely Socialist. [n/a]
Maedhros
Nov 2013
#158
Our water is supplied by the City and the reservoir and pipes are maintained by the city
Rosa Luxemburg
Nov 2013
#173
anything that does not directly profit the already rich is anathema to the GOP and...
yurbud
Nov 2013
#67
I bought that until the health care debate and constituents in those red states...
yurbud
Nov 2013
#163
Pure Socialism assumes a better human nature than actually exists--at least in meaningful quantities
Gore1FL
Nov 2013
#73
I didn't post on that economic system called Capitalism as it wasn't in the OP
Agnosticsherbet
Nov 2013
#167
In liberalism, economic rights are the right to work and to profit from it, whether with your hands
Agnosticsherbet
Nov 2013
#181
We need socialist policies for basic human needs and protections... inelastic demands.
HijackedLabel
Nov 2013
#107
Government is likely better able to own and operate restaurants than healthcare or banking
FarCenter
Nov 2013
#150
Name a country that has successfully implemented a socialist economic structure?
brooklynite
Nov 2013
#183