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hlthe2b

(113,950 posts)
5. I don't know... It is really hard to assess fairly without being there.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 12:12 PM
Mar 2012

and it is hard not to empathize with parents who might seem to be doing everything they can to calm an inconsolable or angry child.

I do know that these kinds of situations have the potential to delay, inconvenience, and even cause harm* to hundreds of passengers. As my parents always emphasized, one needs to anticipate these kind of situations and begin the training early. They used to "challenge" my sister and myself with very brief visits to a number of public settings--always prepared to take us out at the first sign of misbehavior. Well behaved children don't come by accident and that should not at all be construed as my insensitivity to the challenges that flying with children present--nor the potential stressors for small children.


* as to "harm", my closest friend missed her parent's funeral mass because of a forced delay from a disruptive passenger (in this case, an adult)... Stuck on the tarmac while the situation resolved, the flight was late enough to miss her only possible connection, which in this case was to a non-hub airport with limited options. While they were able to schedule a second memorial for a few days later, it was without the priest, most of the original attendees, and she missed the graveside ceremony as well. So, yes... sometimes it is more than just a "minor" inconvenience.

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No Seatbelt No Fly - Why Is That Extreme? we can do it Mar 2012 #1
You must not have children. asjr Mar 2012 #4
I have children and I agree ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2012 #8
I've had children, flown with those children and I agree. nt tsuki Mar 2012 #21
+1 obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #41
Be grateful you get to go to Turks and Caicos at two. Darth_Kitten Mar 2012 #61
Oh Really? I Think Child Safety Trumps Allowing Bratty Behavior To Continue. we can do it Mar 2012 #47
I was on a flight where the child wasn't strapped in for takeoff, etc. Darth_Kitten Mar 2012 #63
Right, because those who are parents are so perfect and have the patience of saints. Darth_Kitten Mar 2012 #59
Agreed. That is a sensible rule and applies to EVERYONE. hifiguy Mar 2012 #7
One key element: Lizzie Poppet Mar 2012 #2
Cute little kids but no, I don't think the pilot was wrong tularetom Mar 2012 #3
Why do I think of Bill Cosby's story about Jeffrey. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #6
The worst part about the "Jeffrey" story was that he was in first class. LoZoccolo Mar 2012 #14
Absolutely sharp_stick Mar 2012 #15
If you're a man, the proper response is: sudopod Mar 2012 #30
Come play with the blue water Jeffrey! Drahthaardogs Mar 2012 #31
If there's one place at all where I think zero tolerance is justified... Initech Mar 2012 #28
I don't know... It is really hard to assess fairly without being there. hlthe2b Mar 2012 #5
"War on children" ?? BuddhaGirl Mar 2012 #9
what i find extreme is the sensationalist headline.. frylock Mar 2012 #10
The headline reads "Toddler's tantrum gets family booted from JetBlue flight" FarCenter Mar 2012 #24
The original headline rule applies only to LBN KamaAina Mar 2012 #34
If you write your own title, put the original headline in the excerpt FarCenter Mar 2012 #39
From what we know, no zipplewrath Mar 2012 #11
The child was clearly in the right and should have been allowed to fly the plane. Gold Metal Flake Mar 2012 #12
It is because she looks pretty darned cute Drahthaardogs Mar 2012 #33
You didn't read the story, did you? Gold Metal Flake Mar 2012 #35
They did not kill the cute one though did they? Drahthaardogs Mar 2012 #37
That would be a little harsh. Gold Metal Flake Mar 2012 #66
Not especially. No seatbelt, no fly. HughBeaumont Mar 2012 #13
We timed our trips with the kids to avoid the sharp_stick Mar 2012 #16
Yeah, it is a tough age. I flew with my 3 and 4 year olds once and there were no problems. Jennicut Mar 2012 #57
I was on a cross-country flight years ago that was greatly delayed in departing because of a toddler kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #17
form the thread title, seems you already made up your mind. KG Mar 2012 #18
She's TWO. The parents can PUT her in her seat and PUT the seatbelt on, tantrum or no tantrum. saras Mar 2012 #19
+1 proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #53
This! laundry_queen Mar 2012 #75
People need to learn to behave. JVS Mar 2012 #20
Having recently flown nearly cross-country with an 3 year old anti-alec Mar 2012 #22
I flew grntuscarora Mar 2012 #23
I doubt this child's eardrum ruptured before the plane took off though. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #49
"What will you give me for a basket of kisses?" Matariki Mar 2012 #25
"A basket of hugs" Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #67
Pediatrician doesn't carry sedatives? FarCenter Mar 2012 #26
I've suggested this before to a post like this, & parents were horrified. This seems the logical Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #73
I have two children, both still minors tnvoter Mar 2012 #27
At departure time, all seat belts must be buckled. MineralMan Mar 2012 #29
Why should my travel plans (& everyone else's) WolverineDG Mar 2012 #32
Well, Drahthaardogs Mar 2012 #38
Doubtful WolverineDG Mar 2012 #56
corporal punishment *is* wrong Bill McBlueState Mar 2012 #77
A terrible twos tantrum are an amazing thing to experience lunatica Mar 2012 #36
This is the age for them to learn that throwing a tantrum doesn't work FarCenter Mar 2012 #43
agreed... ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2012 #46
My brother called this "going into Exorcist mode" Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #68
Good for the pilot obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #40
According to the video, staying overnight and rebooking the next day cost them $2000 FarCenter Mar 2012 #42
A friend of mine on Facebook had a good question obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #54
"turks & caicos for kids" WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2012 #69
My point was that the trip was for mom and dad obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #70
Tantrums are expensive, I guess. Next time, maybe they'll visit the dr. first... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #74
All passengers have to have their seatbelts on tammywammy Mar 2012 #44
The people who think this is horrible MountainLaurel Mar 2012 #45
Thank You! we can do it Mar 2012 #51
In many cases, the "war" on children eventually shakes out to be a taking issue with the BEHAVIOR SoCalDem Mar 2012 #48
It seems to me little is being done to rectify problems like these.. cynatnite Mar 2012 #50
Here's what I think- children AND adults on planes need to learn to behave. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #52
They should charge for carry ons proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #55
why not just charge for either? ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2012 #58
They should charge for carry on to keep passengers from abusing proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #65
but you end up screwing people who HAVE to carry a bag on ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2012 #83
They aren't screwed. They can check bags for free. proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #84
some bags you cannot check... ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2012 #85
You could wait like my parents did and not subject a poor plane full of people to a two year old high density Mar 2012 #60
I have kids and they should have been booted. This is not a war on children. Control your kids, Pisces Mar 2012 #62
"Them"??? I thought it was just the 2 year old who was out of control WolverineDG Mar 2012 #64
Good Ohio Joe Mar 2012 #71
This is as it should be. Parents should carry light doses of drugs.... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #72
Were you being serious about "light doses of drugs" apples and oranges Mar 2012 #76
duct tape works wonders. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #78
Absolutely. Just like some of the other posters have suggested. Prescribed, of course. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #82
It's hard to tell without being there Bill McBlueState Mar 2012 #79
Good for JetBlue MNBrewer Mar 2012 #80
Good! HappyMe Mar 2012 #81
I think this should have been titled : ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2012 #86
+1 This whole story has an "entitlement" feel to it. Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #89
It's you. greytdemocrat Mar 2012 #87
About time.. HipChick Mar 2012 #88
as a teacher arely staircase Mar 2012 #90
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