80% of the US Population is at or below the POVERTY line - WHY is this NOT a National Emergency???

[sabrina 1]

195. Well, I live in Ny and did at that time. Most NYers did not want a war in Iraq and those who

elected Hillary to the Senate were almost 100% against that war, including many outspoken victims of 9/11. Why would she need to try to please the right wingers who did not and never would have voted for her?

I'm sorry, but even if all of the above was not accurate, it was WORTH LOSING a election to SAVE THE LIVES of not just thousands of our own troops, but of the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, men, women and children whose lives are no less precious than American lives.

It was a horrifically immoral vote and, as we now know, a thoroughly irresponsible vote and since most of US knew Bush was lying, someone as intelligent as Hillary certainly knew there were no WMDs in Iraq.

That leaves YOUR theory, that she risked all those lives .... for her own political career.

I would prefer it if she actually believed Bush. But was there anyone in their right mind back then who did NOT know he was lying?

I could forgive someone for doing what she did IF they actually believed the fairy tales Bush was telling. But I could not vote for them either because anyone who was that incompetent, who made such a deadly mistake, is surely not fit to be given that much power.

And I certainly could never support anyone who made that tragic decision, knowing how many lives would be lost, for their own political career. I cannot think of a more immoral act.

We need people who get these decisions right! The first time. It is that important a job.

Had she voted against it, ironically, she would have been proven right, as we know now, and probably would have won the 2008 election.

I try to put myself in the place of the victims of these decisions made by strangers they do not know, have never done anything to and shudder to think what it must be like when your child is blown to bits because someone far away was worried about their career. Or was too unintelligent to fall for a lie that decided the fate of my child. I'm not sure it would matter.

We have to STOP making excuses for our elected officials. If they make immoral decisions for power and money OR because they are foolish and irresponsible enough to make such a decision, the only way we can save this country from becoming something we are ashamed of is to hold them accountable and remove them office.

And right now, thinking of all the people who died so that politicians don't lose a career that really is not such a big deal in the scheme of things, or because we are electing people who can't see when someone is telling glaring lies, all I can conjure up is anger and sadness that those of us who tried so desperately to stop that horrible war, failed. And we failed because of people of like Hillary. She betrayed us.

You may want to live in an Empire that goes around the world killing people but remember, Empires never last very long. This one is crumbling so all the 'clever' politics we think we are so great at, has done nothing but diminish this country in almost every possible way.

I want our elected leaders to have integrity, morality, intelligence and compassion. Those are STRENGTHS. What we have now is a broken system where our leaders excuse the mass killings of people in other countries and approve either openly or silently, TORTURE.

That was another reason I lost total respect for Hillary, when she prevaricated on the question of whether or not she would approve of torture.

I can't think of anyone over the past decade in whom I was more totally disappointed.

So as someone who, until her Iraq vote, had met her and respected her, I could never support her for President.

As for Obama, yes, he was not in the Senate at the time and I am aware that if he had been, from what I have observed over the past few years, would have voted for that horrific war.

We need to move forward from these center right/left candidates, there is no center left in a system that is so far right that the only 'left' in politics is actually moderate Republican, and go all out to get some candidates who care more about their duty to the people who elect them, than to their own personal needs and careers and/or to Corporations.