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Taitertots

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36. Just for the record, you are the one defending....

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 11:05 AM

Nov 2013

Getting in a high speed chase with children in the car
And fighting with police

While I've stated that shooting at a van full of children is wrong.
Running from the police is wrong
Fighting with the police (for no good reason) is wrong

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State Cop Shoots at Minivan Full of Kids [View all] LAGC Nov 2013 OP

Equal share of dumbassery Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #1

No, not equal. Trained police unload their gun at a car full of people, some who did nothing wrong.. Logical Nov 2013 #3

Wrong - lethal force in LEO hands vs. civilian with a van full of kids hatrack Nov 2013 #15

good god man. Ed Suspicious Nov 2013 #40

Have you ever sped off from a traffic stop. Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #123

I have not. I said nothing about race. Ed Suspicious Nov 2013 #132

It was a little more than an uncooperative citizen Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #133

Um...no. n/t FourScore Nov 2013 #80

Um...try it yourself Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #124

I agree. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #104

Of course it isn't, how ridiculous. Why on Earth did you bother POSTING that indefensible drivel? sibelian Nov 2013 #113

I think we can all agree on a few ideas Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #120

So, you've kind of missed out the shooting bit. sibelian Nov 2013 #121

What part of equal share does not over cover the police action? Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #122

Hardly equal... Plenty of dumbassery, but most of it lands on the police side after penultimate Nov 2013 #126

I won't argue with that Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #128

Here is my prediction. No punishment for the idiot cop who shot at the car for NO REASON! n-t Logical Nov 2013 #2

Felony eluding RosettaStoned77 Nov 2013 #22

Sadly, I suspect you are on the right tack. HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #32

Yep! n-t Logical Nov 2013 #39

Cops shooting at children. 99Forever Nov 2013 #4

+1, There should be a minimum of power that is checked, there's none on cops now uponit7771 Nov 2013 #6

There is no downside to any police behavior. Only fully documented videos of bad police..... Logical Nov 2013 #7

When law-abiding citizens start ... 99Forever Nov 2013 #13

This is attempted murder, the cop shot at the van vindictively uponit7771 Nov 2013 #5

My prediction? DiverDave Nov 2013 #8

I can't get the audio here at work, so a few questions Orrex Nov 2013 #9

The cop was accosting the mother, trying to pull her out of the vehicle. LAGC Nov 2013 #10

But he tried to pull her from the vehicle after she'd driven off, right? Orrex Nov 2013 #21

I don't know, I think the fact that she pulled right back over... LAGC Nov 2013 #27

I agree with your assessment, but I doubt that the law will be as understanding Orrex Nov 2013 #31

Well, THIS certainly was an educational trip, now WASN'T it? MrMickeysMom Nov 2013 #108

We don't know how far she drove before pulling over, due to editing jmowreader Nov 2013 #75

Got back in his car and followed her until she stopped. LiberalArkie Nov 2013 #38

That's what he did the first time Orrex Nov 2013 #42

How many chances before they can kill them? Is that what you are trying to justify? rhett o rick Nov 2013 #44

Is that what I wrote? Of course not. Orrex Nov 2013 #47

Ok I will. You said, "How many chances should they get?" Without an explanation, one might rhett o rick Nov 2013 #73

Fair enough. I will clarify. Orrex Nov 2013 #76

As many as she wants as long as she is not harming others FreakinDJ Nov 2013 #81

She was already given that chance. Twice. Orrex Nov 2013 #92

Her offense initially was speeding. If she got away, it's no big deal to society. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #91

She was caught after her initial offense. Orrex Nov 2013 #93

It isn't accosting someone to pull someone... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #115

VIDEO WITH SOUND. Mother is screaming is why son exited van: freshwest Nov 2013 #103

The kid assaulted a cop Orrex Nov 2013 #105

You said you couldn't hear sound. I provided sound and an opinion. I am not into cop bashing threads freshwest Nov 2013 #107

DWB lpbk2713 Nov 2013 #11

That's what I'm thinking, too. LAGC Nov 2013 #14

It would have had a totally different outcome .... lpbk2713 Nov 2013 #18

You know it. (n/t) LAGC Nov 2013 #20

With the advent of traffic fines as tax replacements? You're kidding, right? jmowreader Nov 2013 #74

HA! 2naSalit Nov 2013 #79

Not if he drove away like that. treestar Nov 2013 #85

Can't rule it out. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #106

Driving while speeding... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #116

Damn, just about everyone involved acted like complete assholes Taitertots Nov 2013 #12

Imprison the cop who shot! Do not imprison the woman. Give her a fine. valerief Nov 2013 #17

Why are you ignoring the high speed chase with children in the car? Taitertots Nov 2013 #23

She feared for their lives from the police. What would you do? Why are you ignoring that? valerief Nov 2013 #29

What would I do? Duh, paid the ticket and left without incident Taitertots Nov 2013 #33

That's what I'm thinking about YOUR moral compass. Broken. nt valerief Nov 2013 #34

Just for the record, you are the one defending.... Taitertots Nov 2013 #36

No, YOU are defending the police CAUSING a high speed chase. valerief Nov 2013 #96

You keep saying it, but that doesn't make it any less foolish Taitertots Nov 2013 #100

What if she didn't have the money to pay the ticket at that time? Autumn Nov 2013 #43

Say, "I don't have the money"... Don't fight with police and start a high speed chase. Taitertots Nov 2013 #46

I couldn't get the volume on the clip. I got a ticket in New Mexico about 10 Autumn Nov 2013 #52

Tickets have the address of the county clerk on them. You mail your payment in. jmowreader Nov 2013 #77

You forfeit your driver license and you get them back B Calm Nov 2013 #112

Don't speed... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #117

Is that realistic? treestar Nov 2013 #83

Cop are people, not robots. They should not CREATE DANGEROUS SITUATIONS. These cops did valerief Nov 2013 #97

I don't agree with that treestar Nov 2013 #98

The COPS STARTED THE HIGH SPEED CHASE THUS ENDANGERING EVERYONE. nt valerief Nov 2013 #99

no, the lady did. Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #101

WTF is wrong with those moronic cops? Couldn't they SEE her plates? valerief Nov 2013 #16

"plates" ...exactly. They could have looked it up and gone to the drivers address. L0oniX Nov 2013 #26

Few things... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #119

One thing--THEY HAD HER DAMN PLATES. nt valerief Nov 2013 #131

Protect & Serve, MY ASS! RoccoR5955 Nov 2013 #19

Notice how the TV station didn't blur out the van's tag. lpbk2713 Nov 2013 #24

Upon their arrests, the suspects' names became a matter of public record Orrex Nov 2013 #60

Given the races involved heaven05 Nov 2013 #25

This is your hammer Turbineguy Nov 2013 #28

Where was the deadly threat to the cops? L0oniX Nov 2013 #30

Excellent question. kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #50

Is anyone defending the cop who opened fire? Orrex Nov 2013 #53

exactly, but fucking cops live for that shit gopiscrap Nov 2013 #35

With the exception of the cop firing the gun (stupid fuck), all fault lies with the driver demwing Nov 2013 #37

The mother caused the problem. rrneck Nov 2013 #41

You are guessing. She most likely drove away because she was scared. Not a reason to kill her. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #45

Of course I'm guessing. rrneck Nov 2013 #55

No excuse to shoot to kill. None. He should be prosecuted. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #61

Okay, I looked at the video again. rrneck Nov 2013 #71

If he was trying to shoot out the tire it will be the first time I ever heard of that. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #72

Yes, I agree. rrneck Nov 2013 #78

I agree; she should not have just driven away treestar Nov 2013 #82

Violence is always ugly and scary. rrneck Nov 2013 #87

My non-cop/non-lawyer opinion is that the officer who smashed the window petronius Nov 2013 #48

The police officer who fired the three shots should fired and charged Lurks Often Nov 2013 #49

^^^This nt gulliver Nov 2013 #67

That cop was one lousy shot. All the kids seem to have gotten away. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #51

One Would Guess That The Police Officer's Mouth DallasNE Nov 2013 #54

The cops over reacted for sure Duckhunter935 Nov 2013 #58

$126 DallasNE Nov 2013 #62

Maybe I'm watching the clip in the wrong order Orrex Nov 2013 #59

At The 1st Stop The 2nd Cop Was Hassling The Son DallasNE Nov 2013 #63

You are wrong, the cop at the side of the car did NOT point a gun Lurks Often Nov 2013 #65

Your Right On The Taser DallasNE Nov 2013 #68

Standard procedure in New Mexico, here is NM Motor Vehicle law Lurks Often Nov 2013 #84

What Is Wrong With New Mexico? DallasNE Nov 2013 #88

Don't know, but it means the state trooper was following procedure Lurks Often Nov 2013 #94

I suspect that most of the editing was done by the network Orrex Nov 2013 #66

That Is How It Should Have Gone Down DallasNE Nov 2013 #70

She wouldn't have if she'd just waited for him to complete the process. treestar Nov 2013 #86

What is your motive for misstating the the facts repeatedly via, "the passengers assaulted him"? Dragonfli Nov 2013 #110

Well, what's your motive for misstating the facts? Orrex Nov 2013 #118

Police need to start arresting each other. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #56

police are terrorists!! that poor family! now 2 people are in jail and what about other kids? Sunlei Nov 2013 #57

Yay, Cops! Iggo Nov 2013 #64

the cops were in the right Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #69

BOTTOM LINE: You do NOT shoot at a car full of kids. Th1onein Nov 2013 #89

He shot WHILE SHE DROVE AWAY?!?! NickB79 Nov 2013 #90

I don't see any justification for shooting, but that mother is crazy aikoaiko Nov 2013 #95

She's pretty stupid and brought it all on by her actions. B Calm Nov 2013 #111

"Measured Response" Is Also The Law DallasNE Nov 2013 #102

New Mexico.... ReRe Nov 2013 #109

Everything was fine... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #114

There is plenty of blame to go around here. Inkfreak Nov 2013 #125

Hard to defend the woman for acting the way she did penultimate Nov 2013 #127

Agreed. I dunno what he was thinking (nt) Inkfreak Nov 2013 #129

He probably wasn't thinking... penultimate Nov 2013 #130