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21. Howard Fast mentioned this in his autobiography

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:47 PM

Nov 2013

He relates the story of how he was having dinner with this rich guy who was their socialist (or communist) candidate for some office (mayor or governor) and they were discussing things after dinner and there was this big dish of ice cream that was their dessert sitting on the table, melting. And Howard asks the guy "shouldn't you put that away before it melts?" and the guy waves his hand "oh, somebody will clean that up, don't worry about it."

To Fast, this was ice cream, a rare and precious treat that you don't just nonchalantly let goto waste.

He concluded by saying this made him realize that no matter how sympathetic some richer people were to the cause of working people (which this guy certainly was, in Fast's eyes) they don't see things the way we do. The don't really understand our point of view.

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Do you hate all rich people? [View all] Nye Bevan Nov 2013 OP

SMH/nt DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2013 #1

Only the douchebags. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #2

+1 flamingdem Nov 2013 #90

I don't mind someone getting rich, I just don't want them louis-t Nov 2013 #3

No. cali Nov 2013 #4

Howard Fast mentioned this in his autobiography hfojvt Nov 2013 #21

that's a great story. cali Nov 2013 #23

No, and I don't hate sharks or rattlesnakes either kenny blankenship Nov 2013 #5

I try to judge everyone individually no matter LittleBlue Nov 2013 #6

So, I thought about this and... pipi_k Nov 2013 #7

I'll pass on the loaded question flamebait. 99Forever Nov 2013 #8

me too. This thread is getting trashed. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #22

.. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2013 #35

+1 nt NoGOPZone Nov 2013 #39

Yep, yet so unsurprising nt laundry_queen Nov 2013 #66

No, as long as they contribute their fair share to society. Mass Nov 2013 #9

I hate the system that generates tremendous inequality. BainsBane Nov 2013 #10

ah looks like you beat me by three minutes arely staircase Nov 2013 #13

Aw. That's nice of you to say. BainsBane Nov 2013 #17

+1 Agschmid Nov 2013 #18

Yep. To paraphrase...... socialist_n_TN Nov 2013 #46

I said no arely staircase Nov 2013 #11

one does not have to hate them personally to want a better redistribution treestar Nov 2013 #12

Fully agree. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #16

People that paint with a broad brush always get some DiverDave Nov 2013 #14

Nope. But I do think class analysis can provide very useful practical insights struggle4progress Nov 2013 #15

No, but I hate the capitalist system OutNow Nov 2013 #19

Certainly not hate Beringia Nov 2013 #20

Of course not. LeftishBrit Nov 2013 #24

You know, if I were extremely wealthy, I would "Get Off" on making the world a better place.. BlueJazz Nov 2013 #25

I used to like them fileted and broiled, but I'm vegan now. Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #26

Can we have more meaningful questions than this?!?!? regards uponit7771 Nov 2013 #27

Sure can. You are a donor too, so you can post polls just as easily as I can (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #76

It's easy to despise new money like the Walton heirs and hedge fund parasites Warpy Nov 2013 #28

i know many in the middle class who bash poor people far more than the wealthy JI7 Nov 2013 #29

I've found this to be the case as well. PragmaticLiberal Nov 2013 #30

Do you know more middle class people Incitatus Nov 2013 #40

of course, you may have read what i said wrong, i wasn't saying middle class attacks poor people JI7 Nov 2013 #41

Yes, I read that wrong. Incitatus Nov 2013 #42

No (nt) bigwillq Nov 2013 #31

Nope, I hate capitalism - TBF Nov 2013 #32

+1 i hate the fuck out of capitalism. ~nt~ b.durruti Nov 2013 #55

Good signature line -- TBF Nov 2013 #81

Bo... Just The Selfish Pricks Among Them... WillyT Nov 2013 #33

No. And anyone who does and is proud of it revolts me n/t Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #34

No. rrneck Nov 2013 #36

The yes voters are no better than the GOP supporters Logical Nov 2013 #37

I would like to see some of them explain their reasoning. nt Incitatus Nov 2013 #43

Because they are stupid like GOP supporters. HATING Alan Grayson because he has money? Really? n-t Logical Nov 2013 #50

My reasoning is that it's a stupid question. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #52

Yes. Incitatus Nov 2013 #91

That's kind of a doofus question. I DO abominate excessive wealth, the kind that buys governments. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #38

Of course not. People are basically good, bhikkhu Nov 2013 #44

I don't know about that. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #53

Wealth naturally decreases interdependence bhikkhu Nov 2013 #64

I don't hate anyone pintobean Nov 2013 #45

^^^THIS^^^ Ranchemp. Nov 2013 #67

I have to know someone before I can hate them el_bryanto Nov 2013 #47

That's a very good policy bhikkhu Nov 2013 #63

Not at all HarveyDarkey Nov 2013 #48

I don't hate them, but I am mindful of their personal motivations - haele Nov 2013 #49

Absolutely not. 840high Nov 2013 #51

No not personally, but I do think that the ultra rich (think billionaries) need to be separated from b.durruti Nov 2013 #54

So what should be done about Sara Blakely (the inventor of Spanx)? Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #56

She has too much money. b.durruti Nov 2013 #57

But practically speaking, what should be done about her? (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #61

. dionysus Nov 2013 #62

who actually makes them? KentuckyWoman Nov 2013 #58

Yep. laundry_queen Nov 2013 #69

No Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2013 #59

Just the ones who take advantage of the poor and the weak. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #60

I swear, it's like your polls are written by Fix the Debt. /nt Marr Nov 2013 #65

I actually found it to be a worthwhile exercise. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #75

This is clearly the corporate talking point of the week. woo me with science Nov 2013 #68

OMG YES. Everything you just said. Ditto, ditto and your last line especially - DITTO. nt laundry_queen Nov 2013 #72

+100000000000000000000 Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #77

"So many threads about hate"? I see only one other thread about hate on the front page of GD: Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #78

Got any response to the rest of Woo's post? 99Forever Nov 2013 #87

When a poster comprehensively beclowns himself in the first sentence of a post, Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #89

This poll is evidence of shallow reasoning on your part. Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #70

Those poor rich people... YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #71

It was actually inspired by a recent post where the OP admitted to being bigoted against the rich. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #73

As I said. Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #74

And it turned out to be 4% (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #79

What's your answer to your question? XRubicon Nov 2013 #93

It's up to 5% now (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #95

What's the lowest wealth level that triggers your hate? XRubicon Nov 2013 #96

Most of the people I hate are in the top 1% of the world (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #97

I've actually been attacked on DU before for suggesting we shouldn't automatically hate all rich stevenleser Nov 2013 #86

Yes. JackRiddler Nov 2013 #100

Bill Maher is rich Joel thakkar Nov 2013 #80

Define "rich" n/t Fumesucker Nov 2013 #82

Can't say that I hate rich people, but I have always held the opinion that, chemenger Nov 2013 #83

Your favorite entertainer would likely qualify as rich KinMd Nov 2013 #84

Let's go with Yes... Iggo Nov 2013 #85

Not all . . . . HughBeaumont Nov 2013 #88

Of course not! etherealtruth Nov 2013 #92

Can you define "rich"? mainer Nov 2013 #94

Warren Buffett can't give his money away fast enough OmahaBlueDog Nov 2013 #98

To the 10 who voted yes: when you line me up against the wall, aim for the head... brooklynite Nov 2013 #99

For the most part, yes. lonestarnot Nov 2013 #101

It is a hate for a phenomenon caused by the rich. Rex Nov 2013 #102

Privileged, spoiled gated community dwelling pearl clutchers, yes. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #103