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In reply to the discussion: The Rising Tide of Populism in the Dem Party Spells Trouble for Hillary [View all]libdem4life
(13,877 posts)my opinion is, as a Left Liberal, that we have lost significant ground as to what is now The Right. Some lean to the Left is still Right behind I believe we were 10 years ago. It was just a few weeks ago one of these idiots was allowed to opine and wax idiotic on national television in the highest gathering place of our democracy. Pretty much anything looks left to this bunch and to the country, as well as the awed MSM...at least for a while. They also say that every election...Populism covers a vast territory.
Corporatism is such a "now" subject...but it isn't. It's a 40-year evolution that began in 1971, IMO. Nixon Shock. "The Nixon Shock was a series of economic measures taken by United States President Richard Nixon in 1971 including unilaterally canceling the direct convertibility of the United States dollar to gold. It helped end the existing Bretton Woods system of international financial exchange, ushering in the era of freely floating currencies that remains to the present day."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_Shock
The second event that went hand-in-hand to today's Democrat perjorative called "Corporatism",, was he and Kissinger trying for a big Cold War win with Russia, turned to opening up trade in China. He was heralded as a visionary. And, of course, 40 years later we owe them our financial souls, MOL.
http://www.ushistory.org/us/56g.asp
Like it or not, hyperventilate all day, month and election cycle, while turning into a de facto Republican Cheerleadering Squad, and do the current "in" thing of blaming Her, but it was NIXON who let the genie out of a bottle that no modern politician can put back in. A Republican. So, let's just turn all this ugly Corporatism stuff back over to them, right? The TPP would be just first base for them. No.
I challenge anyone to a further conversation to provide me with a comprehensive list of necessities of life like food and water and electricity and housing, extra goodies we like to buy, or services, or media (our social media and internet), or even public infrastructure like highways and bridges that do not spring forth from a corporate birthing...here or abroad. Not wishing or hoping or if-only...how do you explain to your children that corporations are bad. Start with Twitter, maybe?
(I'd prefer to take on Big Agriculture, for instance. Let's legislate organic food, due to the chemical cocktails in our over processed, nutritionally deficient food and our farms...which I would support. Our daily health, our too-high average weight/diabetis epidemic as well as our bloated health care system would benefit beyond measure.)
Then there is the original seed of Corporatism... the Industrial Revolution...which started it all...and a lot of people really didn't like it. Especially rural folk...because it gobbled up all the newly arrived, unwashed immigrant Europeans, began Liberalism (even starving immigrants got a bit too much) lured the young and healthy and upwardly mobile Americans from the farms. Machines, time saving miracles, canned food...women no longer had to drudge at home all day and all year with their washboards and kitchen gardens....
It was filthy, dirty, dangerous, Mother Jones had to rescue the children, Fat Cats got their name...and those families still exist at the very top of the financial food chain. And the railroad...big, big corporation...see above. Again, relevant, but another post.
Most of these genies left the bottle long ago...before we were born, and surely before we were politically aware. And since it really isn't Saint Hillary, (or Saint Obama), it's ingenuous to expect/berate/ridicule Her to compensate for 40 years of American Policy that gave us The American Empire and hegemony over the rest of the world with The Dollar. This was literally, a New World. Not since the Dutch or maybe the Spaniards??? has one country had so much economic power over trade and currency and size and political influence. (Ditto all of this regarding the pipeline criticism...Henry Ford hardly had the foresight, either, and I'm not keen on $10-15 a gallon for gas and what that would do to the economy, but that's another post, as well.)
And while we're dreaming, I'd like a Third Party. For reasons we all understand and agree upon.
Still...this is quite a burden for the first woman to get anywhere near the White House in our quarter of a century history...as has been the first half-black man to actually get there. They are not Saints. They had to do a lot, a whole lot, of what we love to hate and that is the old "back-room dealing". Party, finances, special interest groups, local interests, volunteers ... and figure out to raise a billion dollars...and please their varied populist groups, to somewhere upwards of 50 million people enough to get them to go vote for them.
Hillary has my vote as of today...warts and all. Anybody who notices what the Left is doing to her, however, would probably not even bother to run...least of all a Progressive. Elizabeth Warren's political arm must be close to broken with all the frenzied arm-twisting around here. She...Hillary... is not a populist. Why not? If one doesn't know, the answer will not make any sense.
Oh and that Citizen's United little phrase...the SCOTUS that Bush Built and Mitt crooned over, the old corporation=person. Yes, let's give them two more appointments, while we're at it. Two of them will not retire until there is a Republican. I forget which two, but we could write them an early retirement package and get a couple in their 50s.
But I'm not willing to bad mouth my party just because it can only produce one person...yea, one rather brave woman who still hasn't declared... who has the balls to put up with all of this shit. Perhaps the question is "What if she decides not to run, and to spend her senior years enjoying her Foundation and potential grandchildren?" Truth is...there is No One in place or in their right mind who expects to do anything but make a national name for themselves...see the paragraph above.
Just don't badmouth and hurt the Party and our chances, if nothing else, to keep another Bush, the third one and not by marriage, out of the White House. Or, come up with a real alternative.
/singed/ The Unapologetic Pragmatist (Willing to change my mind, however, but not going to shirk my hard-fought rights and my democratic duty of voting, either R, D or I, no way no how.)